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The Saurus posted:Those fat bitches who crashed Sanders' rally go to 50k/year private colleges and black women are victims of police violence far less than white men are. So basically gently caress them. A racial minority isn't necessarily divided up by sex. When referring to african-americans in general, those girls fall under that umbrella, they aren't necessarily atomised. quote:I wonder what it is about the beta as hell guy who is brimming with white guilt that appeals to liberals. What criteria would lead you to mark Bernie Sanders as 'beta'?
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Feb 16, 2016 23:05
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I'd prefer that he was able to articulate these positions in person rather than constantly relying on rhetoric. I have rarely heard him talk about concrete policy positions, numbers, etcetera. more focused on 'stated goals'. Also he doesn't outright favour a more equitable distribution of wealth in society, unlike Sanders.
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Feb 16, 2016 23:07
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Of course I know that, but the plurality of SC Trump supporters don't and now we've got some nice hard numbers (thanks liberal arts majors)
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Feb 16, 2016 23:08
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Ocrassus posted:I'd prefer that he was able to articulate these positions in person rather than constantly relying on rhetoric. I have rarely heard him talk about concrete policy positions, numbers, etcetera. more focused on 'stated goals'. Also he doesn't outright favour a more equitable distribution of wealth in society, unlike Sanders. To be fair, every single candidate this cycle seems to expect you to check their website for their detailed positions on things
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Feb 16, 2016 23:10
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T r a v i s posted:Liberals think we need government funded higher education because they have never heard of the Montgomery GI Bill. Poor kids shouldn't have to die in the sandbox for a shot at an education.
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Feb 16, 2016 23:11
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Zas posted:To be fair, every single candidate this cycle seems to expect you to check their website for their detailed positions on things They can atleast provide general numbers, percentages, etcetera. When asked questions specifically, they are at least some of the time capable of answering specifically. (The nuclear triad one sticks particularly in my mind).
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Feb 16, 2016 23:12
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Ocrassus posted:I'd prefer that he was able to articulate these positions in person rather than constantly relying on rhetoric. I have rarely heard him talk about concrete policy positions, numbers, etcetera. more focused on 'stated goals'. Also he doesn't outright favour a more equitable distribution of wealth in society, unlike Sanders. He holds the opinion that nobody really wants to listen to him drone on about specific policy positions at a rally for an hour, and hell, he's right.
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Feb 16, 2016 23:13
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Talmonis posted:Refusing would have sunk him even further, and would have elicited non-stop shrieking about it until the Primaries were over. There was no winning for Sanders in that situation. It's great to see that you support a candidate and a party with a constituency that behaves and acts like that.
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Feb 16, 2016 23:14
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Top Bunk Wanker posted:He holds the opinion that nobody really wants to listen to him drone on about specific policy positions at a rally for an hour, and hell, he's right. There is a middle ground... and this isn't specifically at the rallies either. A bit more detail would help because as President, he has to be able to pitch to a wide variety of people who will value that skill. I have never seen that from Donald Trump, even prior to his election run.
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Feb 16, 2016 23:15
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Talmonis posted:Poor kids shouldn't have to die in the sandbox for a shot at an education. If you hadn't already done an impression of the proletariat by slapping your hand against your chest I wouldn't think you're being serious right now.
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Feb 16, 2016 23:15
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Ocrassus posted:A racial minority isn't necessarily divided up by sex. When referring to african-americans in general, those girls fall under that umbrella, they aren't necessarily atomised. Black Lives Matter is specifically a movement about police violence towards poor black men. Seeing upper class black women hijack it because they're playing oppression olympics at their private college pisses me off. What Liberals hear when you explain why you're voting for Trump 
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Ocrassus posted:There is a middle ground... and this isn't specifically at the rallies either. A bit more detail would help because as President, he has to be able to pitch to a wide variety of people who will value that skill. I have never seen that from Donald Trump, even prior to his election run. Has it ever occurred to you that Trump does this on purpose.
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The Saurus posted:Black Lives Matter is specifically a movement about police violence towards poor black men. Seeing upper class black women hijack it because they're playing oppression olympics at their private college pisses me off. 'Black lives matter' - The namesake must have me fooled then. You're saying African-American women shouldn't be able to protest police violence on African-American men? Immortan posted:Has it ever occurred to you that Trump does this on purpose. Even if he does, it is not a good thing to consistently practice. Reagan was able to shift from rhetoric to statesmen and back again as the audience suited him. I have seen no evidence that Trump can do that, and because I, and many others both foreign and domestic, value that skill, I don't think he'd make an ideal President. If I see him alter this, say for the general election, then I might reevaluate that particular criticism.
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Feb 16, 2016 23:23
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Cutting the top marginal rate from ~40% to 25% is a horrible idea as is eliminating the DEATH TAX. Business Octopus has issued a correction as of 23:32 on Feb 16, 2016 |
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Feb 16, 2016 23:30
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Ocrassus posted:Even if he does, it is not a good thing to consistently practice. Reagan was able to shift from rhetoric to statesmen and back again as the audience suited him. I have seen no evidence that Trump can do that, and because I, and many others both foreign and domestic, value that skill, I don't think he'd make an ideal President. If I see him alter this, say for the general election, then I might reevaluate that particular criticism. You're forgetting the part where Trump's positions are known.
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Feb 16, 2016 23:31
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Immortan posted:You're forgetting the part where Trump's positions are known. Articulating the finer points (only some of which I agree with) in person is important to me. Somebody else likely wrote all that up, I want it to come from the man himself. I want a demonstration that he is completely cogent of the complex minutiae that you often have to deal with as president.
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Feb 16, 2016 23:35
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Ocrassus posted:Articulating the finer points (only some of which I agree with) in person is important to me. Somebody else likely wrote all that up, I want it to come from the man himself. I want a demonstration that he is completely cogent of the complex minutiae that you often have to deal with as president. This guy can't be for real.
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Ocrassus posted:Articulating the finer points (only some of which I agree with) in person is important to me. Somebody else likely wrote all that up, I want it to come from the man himself. I want a demonstration that he is completely cogent of the complex minutiae that you often have to deal with as president. Oh, he will.
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Feb 16, 2016 23:38
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T r a v i s posted:This guy can't be for real. Yeah, for a minute there I would he was going to make or break the Trump campaign.
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Feb 16, 2016 23:39
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Immortan posted:Yeah, for a minute there I would he was going to make or break the Trump campaign. Honestly I didn't understand a word he said because I produce an actual physical product for a living.
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Political discussion on a politics board! ...well I never
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Ocrassus posted:'Black lives matter' - The namesake must have me fooled then. You're saying African-American women shouldn't be able to protest police violence on African-American men? One of the women who crashed Sanders' rally literally wore a t-shirt saying "sippin on white tears". She wasn't protesting in good faith aganst police brutality, she was using it as an excuse to claim oppression points and silenced a rally for thousands of people (most of whom were less privileged and affluent than her) so she could feel powerful and smug. Anyone and everyone can/should protest against police violence on African-American men (and white and asian and hispanic men!), but rich women who are far more privileged in this and many other matters over white men, using it as a stick to beat white men with, is wrong.
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Feb 16, 2016 23:42
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T r a v i s posted:Honestly I didn't understand a word he said because I produce an actual physical product for a living. I make the spools that go into the engines found on Boeing aircraft.
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Feb 16, 2016 23:42
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The Saurus posted:One of the women who crashed Sanders' rally literally wore a t-shirt saying "sippin on white tears". She wasn't protesting in good faith aganst police brutality, she was using it as an excuse to claim oppression points and silenced a rally for thousands of people (most of whom were less privileged and affluent than her) so she could feel powerful and smug. I think what they did is cool because that dude wants to be President and they punked him out, it was funny.
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Feb 16, 2016 23:44
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Ocrassus posted:I make the spools that go into the engines found on Boeing aircraft. Trump wants to stop your job being shipped to CHYNA by the way.
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The Saurus posted:One of the women who crashed Sanders' rally literally wore a t-shirt saying "sippin on white tears". She wasn't protesting in good faith aganst police brutality, she was using it as an excuse to claim oppression points and silenced a rally for thousands of people (most of whom were less privileged and affluent than her) so she could feel powerful and smug. Just the regressive left init. I'm more contemptuous of them than Trump supporters really. Its a very difficult mire to navigate.
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The Saurus posted:Trump wants to stop your job being shipped to CHYNA by the way. My job isn't going anywhere. There is literally only a double digit amount of people on the planet who know how to weld Turbofan blades together properly. e: i'm not one of them, but they're not going to move the factory for that reason.
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Ocrassus posted:Articulating the finer points (only some of which I agree with) in person is important to me. Somebody else likely wrote all that up, I want it to come from the man himself. I want a demonstration that he is completely cogent of the complex minutiae that you often have to deal with as president. Well, you can't please everybody all the time.
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Ocrassus posted:Just the regressive left init. I'm more contemptuous of them than Trump supporters really. Its a very difficult mire to navigate. e. If you're a college educated lefty hip to the latest in anti-oppression theory and you think someone should lose their livelihood because they uttered "oppressive" or "violent" language, maybe not even while at their job just within earshot of you - or heaven forefend, on social media! - then you're probably an ideologue and irredeemable poo poo. unlimited shrimp has issued a correction as of 00:26 on Feb 17, 2016 |
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Immortan posted:It's great to see that you support a candidate and a party with a constituency that behaves and acts like that. The worst examples of the left being truly obnoxious people is far less of a poor example of humanity then the right's actively campaigning against the civil rights of lbgt, minorities and the poor.
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Feb 17, 2016 00:21
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Talmonis posted:"Hurr hurr, we don' need none'a that thar book lernin! Jus' what pappy tole us about it!" Seriously, gently caress off with this anti-intellectual poo poo, it's poison to the country. We need liberal arts majors just as much as STEM. Sociology, Economics, political science and other soft sciences are all liberal arts. I'm sorry if this is against the rules but I wanted to quote this again because I think it's the best representation of the liberal side of this issue.
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T r a v i s posted:I'm sorry if this is against the rules but I wanted to quote this again because I think it's the best representation of the liberal side of this issue. Considering your hostility and arrogance toward all non-stem fields, the above is a kind of a love tap. How about : Actively poisonous to the human race.
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Talmonis posted:The worst examples of the left being truly obnoxious people is far less of a poor example of humanity then the right's actively campaigning against the civil rights of lbgt, minorities and the poor. Agreed, good thing the Ted Cruz and Glenn Beck theocratic brand of the right will never win a general election again. Now, stop putting foreigners before U.S. citizens, you might actually feel better about yourself.
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Feb 17, 2016 01:04
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Liberals encourage human trafficking by supporting policies that incentivize illegal immigration.
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Ocrassus posted:What criteria would lead you to mark Bernie Sanders as 'beta'? this is just one of the weird things young conservative guys do now, everybody who disagrees with them is beta even if they could literally have them murdered before breakfast
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Feb 17, 2016 03:26
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hi i just wanted to post in this honeypot thread for secret racists 
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This is the thread for obviously racist stuff like nationalism, you're thinking of the one with 4,000 pages of people salivating over the prospect of an Obamacare-style subsidy for the Marxist adult daycare industry.
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Feb 17, 2016 04:45
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Nationalism is great, lmao. It's basically the same thing as patriotism or something right?
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Lastgirl posted:hi i just wanted to post in this honeypot thread for secret racists For time you say racist Trump gets two more voters. 
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