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gtrmp posted:
Ok if they bring this back I am with it 100%
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Kellsterik posted:So, what does the Shadow look like in and around the Pentagon? I'm working on a Demon one-shot that's going to involve breaking in via Rip the Gates, and I want ideas for striking images and unsettling spirits to harry the PCs. Shadows and secrets. This is a battleground for spirits of secrecy, who hide everything, and spirits of truth, that reveal it all. Intelligence agencies in general are built around this contradictory pair of urges, and I imagine the Pentagon is an ecosystem of constant battle between the secret and the revealed. Plus also the emotions associated with the people in it a lot - fear, anger, betrayal, patriotism...
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Feb 16, 2016 20:33
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Doodmons posted:What in the name of loving christ is that A dark, serious, mature, and intense examination of your humanity and the nature of reality, not some baby d&d game like those losers in sweatpants play. edit: I own it, and it's very useful for playing Mage without flipping through the badly indexed book
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Feb 16, 2016 20:37
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MalcolmSheppard posted:The original World of Darkness lines were released under market conditions that could never be matched by Chronicles of Darkness, even when it was NWoD. CofD/NWoD was released during a period of collapse for the TTRPG industry triggered by D&D 3.5 and the D20 glut. It's not an insult to say it's less popular. WW could have released metaplot-reset versions of the WoD lines or new editions or whatever and they wouldn't have done any better. But deserved or not, that difference in popularity does impact the ability to spin it off, simply because fewer people know of one than the other. I'm more inclined to blame the ttrpg collapse on the rise of graphical MMOs culminating with World of Warcraft rather than any affect D&D had. Really there were D&D only players and players who wanted to play anything but.
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Feb 16, 2016 20:50
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Gilok posted:Ok if they bring this back I am with it 100% I'm the guy wearing sunglasses and what appears to be the curtains from a children's dentist's office.
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Feb 16, 2016 20:50
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Kellsterik posted:So, what does the Shadow look like in and around the Pentagon? I'm working on a Demon one-shot that's going to involve breaking in via Rip the Gates, and I want ideas for striking images and unsettling spirits to harry the PCs. Enormous shields and swords and great, churning war-spirits. Embers in the breeze, one-eyed spirits of vengeance, along the western wall. A titanic labyrinth of bureaucracy and paperwork. The occasional wizard scurrying through on weird secret business, checking behind themselves like nervous rats or maybe occupying soldiers. Odd churning train-spirits snaking through its guts, containing the odd courts of hunger and commerce. Wounded national pride and nervous masculinity stalk the halls, quick to feast upon scuttling secrecies.
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Feb 16, 2016 20:50
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Mendrian posted:I'm the guy wearing sunglasses and what appears to be the curtains from a children's dentist's office. I'm the rifle that shoots by itself.
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Feb 16, 2016 21:02
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Gilok posted:I'm confident that video game wise, Paradox is going to ignore everything but Vampire for years. It's pretty clear from the way the guy is talking that Vampire is what he's interested in and I don't think we're going to see cool Werewolf games any time soon. We will never see games for anything past Mage. I doubt this dude even knows Orpheus exists. I think you're bang on re: Paradox and Vampire. To most people who aren't huge gamer nerds Vampire is the bit of the WoD with the most exposure. It got the video game (Hunter had one too but no one cares about it), it got the TV show (that no one cared about but hey), it was going to be the focus of the cancelled MMO, Vampire LARPs are the most well known of the bunch, etc.
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Feb 16, 2016 21:07
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Mors Rattus posted:Shadows and secrets. This is a battleground for spirits of secrecy, who hide everything, and spirits of truth, that reveal it all. Intelligence agencies in general are built around this contradictory pair of urges, and I imagine the Pentagon is an ecosystem of constant battle between the secret and the revealed. Plus also the emotions associated with the people in it a lot - fear, anger, betrayal, patriotism...
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Feb 16, 2016 21:16
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Luminous Obscurity posted:Has Europe's gaming community been having the same scale of conversation about racism/sexism that we've been having over here? From personal experience, I've talked with a few Masquerade-fans whose attitude towards the whole thing "oh gods Vampire was so incredibly loving racist it's the single worst thing about the entire game", and a few vampire fans who gave off the attitude of "portraying the Roma vampire-clan as a bunch of begging welfare-queens is just harmless fun!" (because he wrote a con module where the local Ravnos Primogen was a welfare queen who begged for money outside the welfare office).
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Feb 16, 2016 21:47
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I'd either go with the giant star-spangled Wyrm-hole or use it as the site of an entombed Earthbound.
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Feb 16, 2016 21:48
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Feb 16, 2016 21:54
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To be honest if I was going to explore the Shadow of a place in Washington, I would start with the Smithsonian. Imagine the terrible keening wail coming from the womb-bay of the Enola Gay at Air N Space. Or the terrible battles reenacted at the Museum of the Native Americans. Imagine the pilgrimages the Pure might make to the Museum of Natural History in search of the ur-beasts of hunts long past. No doubt a place like the Pentagon is ruthlessly patrolled by the Adamantine Arrow, or the Praetorian Ministry of War, or the Pure, or Task Force: VALKYRIE or all four at once. In the spirit of Washington, they all know each other and spend most of their time coldly politicking around each other in between spats of horrific violence that erupt in the suburbs where they all actually live.
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Feb 16, 2016 22:16
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:To be honest if I was going to explore the Shadow of a place in Washington, I would start with the Smithsonian. Imagine the terrible keening wail coming from the womb-bay of the Enola Gay at Air N Space. Or the terrible battles reenacted at the Museum of the Native Americans. Imagine the pilgrimages the Pure might make to the Museum of Natural History in search of the ur-beasts of hunts long past. No doubt a place like the Pentagon is ruthlessly patrolled by the Adamantine Arrow, or the Praetorian Ministry of War, or the Pure, or Task Force: VALKYRIE or all four at once. In the spirit of Washington, they all know each other and spend most of their time coldly politicking around each other in between spats of horrific violence that erupt in the suburbs where they all actually live. One time I was in a Hunter game set in DC and a wizard used time magic to bring a dinosaur back to life from its skeleton.
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Feb 16, 2016 22:31
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Hmm... no, I'm pretty sure Time magic is for doubling the effective value of your mage armor.
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Feb 16, 2016 22:37
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Attorney at Funk posted:One time I was in a Hunter game set in DC and a wizard used time magic to bring a dinosaur back to life from its skeleton. Fear my zombie T-Rex that doesn't cause paradox/disbelief!
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Feb 16, 2016 22:40
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Attorney at Funk posted:One time I was in a Hunter game set in DC and a wizard used time magic to bring a dinosaur back to life from its skeleton. Uhh...  Uhhhhhhhhh
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Feb 16, 2016 22:55
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gtrmp posted:
Yes, this is exactly what I want. It's pure 90s. Shoot that raw Liefeldium straight into my veins. It's like tasting a Bill Clinton saxophone solo.
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Feb 16, 2016 23:05
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Doodmons posted:What in the name of loving christ is that the Mage 1e Storyteller's Screen, from the good old days when the Technocracy was literally The Matrix and your character sheet was airbrushed onto the side of a van
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Feb 16, 2016 23:06
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Is there an oWoD flavor justification for a mage getting powers from being possessed? I have a character concept that's a katana-and-trenchcoat neckbeard who gets possessed by a dead samurai from the 1600s and now thinks he's an immortal warrior poet.
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Feb 16, 2016 23:21
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Zephirum posted:Is there an oWoD flavor justification for a mage getting powers from being possessed? I have a character concept that's a katana-and-trenchcoat neckbeard who gets possessed by a dead samurai from the 1600s and now thinks he's an immortal warrior poet. Every single katana and trenchcoat neckbeard thinks he's an immortal warrior poet. EDIT: Take a Wraith ally or something.
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Feb 16, 2016 23:29
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Zephirum posted:Is there an oWoD flavor justification for a mage getting powers from being possessed? I have a character concept that's a katana-and-trenchcoat neckbeard who gets possessed by a dead samurai from the 1600s and now thinks he's an immortal warrior poet. Something something Avatar. Your Avatar takes the form of an immortal warrior poet.
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Feb 17, 2016 00:48
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Appended to the end of the interview where the Lead Storyteller stuck his foot deep in his mouth.quote:[Edit 02.16. Elricsson has asked for these clarifications to be added to the article:] Love to see the "Lead Storyteller" make sure to mention his ability and motivations to destroy the entire NWoD root & branch along with the business plan of Onyx Path when he is at all feeling defensive about his choice of words. He sounds like a guy that is used to making idle threats when stressed.
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Feb 17, 2016 03:45
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I'm still confused as to which characters from oWoD were especially iconic and beloved. The metaplot stuff I get, but I was never deep enough in to know which of the named NPCs were cool. I mean, besides the ULTIMATE BAD rear end.
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Feb 17, 2016 03:55
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It sounds like he likes Chronicles more but has been persuaded that using it would be financially unsound. However, he is wrong that using it as a platform for video games would mean adding a metaplot to it, and also wrong that it doesn't already have characters.
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Feb 17, 2016 03:56
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Ferrinus posted:It sounds like he likes Chronicles more but has been persuaded that using it would be financially unsound. However, he is wrong that using it as a platform for video games would mean adding a metaplot to it, and also wrong that it doesn't already have characters. Yeah but they all suck except for the Unholy.
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Feb 17, 2016 04:05
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Kavak posted:Yeah but they all suck except for the Unholy. Count Fuckin' Dracula, my friend.
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Feb 17, 2016 04:05
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Mors Rattus posted:I'm still confused as to which characters from oWoD were especially iconic and beloved. Theo Bell was alright after a couple of authors had a crack at him. Victoria Ash apparently was beloved but loving annoyed me to no end except in the Victorian Age novels, which were probably the best Vampire-birthed novels period.
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Feb 17, 2016 04:06
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Not strictly oWoD but Divis Mal sticks with me. Then again, Paradox is probably not interested in toy sales. I hope I referenced that right, it's been so long
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Feb 17, 2016 04:09
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Loomer posted:Theo Bell was alright after a couple of authors had a crack at him. Victoria Ash apparently was beloved but loving annoyed me to no end except in the Victorian Age novels, which were probably the best Vampire-birthed novels period. I'm sure that Lucita had her fans, even though (or maybe specifically because) she was the blandest Mary Sue character in the entire setting, which is certainly saying something. Although the version of her in the Dark Ages books was at least bearable, in that she actually had personality traits other than "is a stone cold badass". Cabbit posted:Not strictly oWoD but Divis Mal sticks with me. Then again, Paradox is probably not interested in toy sales. Onyx Path bought the Aberrant/Trinity IP outright, so he isn't even a White Wolf character any more.
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Feb 17, 2016 04:25
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While it's true that the oWoD has plenty of great characters, it also has a poo poo-ton of terrible ones and I can easily think of as many, if not more, great characters from the nWoD. They said they'd love to have a TV show at one point. Well, the Chicago setting for Requiem would make a killer tv show, and they already have a season or two of material, easy, by using the novels and Intro Fictions. I'll take Maxwell "Eddie Murphy" Clarke over Theo Bell any day, broken V:tES card or no.
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Feb 17, 2016 04:27
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Kavak posted:Yeah but they all suck except for the Unholy. There are in fact tons of great characters and I don't even need to lean on Hunger Like Fire or something to make that claim.
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Ferrinus posted:There are in fact tons of great characters and I don't even need to lean on Hunger Like Fire or something to make that claim. Who's your favorite nWoD character and why?
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Feb 17, 2016 04:32
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Ferrinus posted:There are in fact tons of great characters and I don't even need to lean on Hunger Like Fire or something to make that claim. You're right, but A Hunger Like Fire is also good.
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Feb 17, 2016 04:32
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Cabbit posted:Not strictly oWoD but Divis Mal sticks with me. Then again, Paradox is probably not interested in toy sales. Did he stick with you by being a lovely 90s Metaplot NPC? Because that's how I'll always remember him.
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Feb 17, 2016 04:34
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Attorney at Funk posted:Who's your favorite nWoD character and why? Vincent Moon, eccentric pulp novelist, noted owner of fuzzy slippers, weirdo British occultist with a sense of fashion from 1947 and prophetic vampire cult master.
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Feb 17, 2016 04:39
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The Brand Architect is broadly correct (as in, I get what he's attempting to say, even if the specifics of the metaplot comment is stupid and the characters part actually false) from his perspective as "guy trying to explain a huge transmedia push and the giant many-limbed beast we intend to yoke and ride to Moneytown" and in fact sounds exactly like most product evangelists / corporate brand advocates when they start talking about integrating social media into a campaign to sell things like shoes or albums or profitable IPs like superhero anything. The only problem is, he is saying this about an industry where the demonstrably most profitable thing you can do is mulch the books for confetti and then license a decent game or terrible-but-they-paid-us-cash-money-for-the-names movie/tv show every once in awhile, instead of something that already has fingers in every cash-generating pie. Which is wrong, and bad, for the hobby and for us hobbyists, but the thing that sticks out to me the most is, I think it's this guy's job to try to make money? And he's setting sail across the ocean on a viking funeral barge already fit to be a pyre.
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Feb 17, 2016 04:39
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 Changeling 2E Previewbomb!
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Feb 17, 2016 04:44
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As long as OPP can continue to do their thing with CoD, Paradox can ride oWoD off into a blackhole never to be seen again for all I care. Doubly so if they stick with the old system.
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Attorney at Funk posted:Who's your favorite nWoD character and why? I really like the Chevalier de Thélème. A nice guy doing his best despite the world being terrible and his demonic mom routinely ruining his life. Always a gentleman too.
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