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Does anyone have a name for those Yugioh scandals or a place to read up on them? They sound fascinating.
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Lightning Lord posted:Wasn't that Upper Deck? it was, they were also doing the same thing with WoW cards
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Ramos posted:Does anyone have a name for those Yugioh scandals or a place to read up on them? They sound fascinating. upper deck printed more than they were supposed to, of ygo and wow tcg they lost the license the end
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Feb 17, 2016 02:01
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Ramos posted:Does anyone have a name for those Yugioh scandals or a place to read up on them? They sound fascinating. http://www.iptrademarkattorney.com/2010/01/counterfeit-trademark-yu-gi-oh-upper-deck-konami-copyright-summary-judgment-court-ruling.html
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Feb 17, 2016 02:08
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MisterOblivious posted:http://www.iptrademarkattorney.com/2010/01/counterfeit-trademark-yu-gi-oh-upper-deck-konami-copyright-summary-judgment-court-ruling.html Fantastic, thanks.
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The market has officially gone so far off the rails, it has destroyed the MTGStocks site. Edit: Oop. It's back up. AlternateNu fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Feb 17, 2016 |
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Feb 17, 2016 03:11
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My guess is that the result of all this is that we end up just getting the card list so WOTC can get out in front of this. They wouldn't be addressing it if it was a fake list.
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All the good Legacy decks only need 2 City of Traitors right? Right?
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Angry Grimace posted:My guess is that the result of all this is that we end up just getting the card list so WOTC can get out in front of this. They wouldn't be addressing it if it was a fake list. They're going to beat around the Bush for weeks until they make that call, revealing the entire official list would cause spikes in all the cards that aren't in it, and it would completely ruin the hype of the set. Not that they care about the secondary market.
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Count Bleck posted:They're going to beat around the Bush for weeks until they make that call, revealing the entire official list would cause spikes in all the cards that aren't in it, and it would completely ruin the hype of the set. Agreed. Releasing the full spoiler would be the most fair response to what is basically mass cardboard insider trading, but having the most fair response to mass cardboard insider trading is very low on WotC's list of priorities. They've made a couple noncommittal "We're aware there's a situation" posts, now they'll beat about the cuckservative 2016 for a few months until they announce that the culprit is all judges whose surnames begin with vowels.
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Feb 17, 2016 04:38
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Count Bleck posted:They're going to beat around the Bush for weeks until they make that call, revealing the entire official list would cause spikes in all the cards that aren't in it, and it would completely ruin the hype of the set. ruining set hype this far out would be p bad actually
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Feb 17, 2016 04:53
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It would be pretty funny for the draft format to be totally solved and people already bored of drafting it via online simulators before the set actually came out.
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Just won a legacy 8-man with legends miracles after the daily didn't fire. Probably the last one ever, given they're taking them down tomorrow.
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born on a buy you posted:direct acknowledgement I mean this is kind of bullshit since they ship out godbooks (like what spoiled New Phyrexia) months in advance of spoiler season, unless they stopped doing that. While I don't think they are explicitly colluding with vendors, they totally could have had a discussion about the reserve list, it not changing, but them having plans to focus on legacy and that would be more than enough of a heads up, especially since they've had secret meetings with vendors before about the reserve list, Ben Bleweiss talked a lot about it and that's where the "SCG doesn't support the reserve list" poo poo comes from.
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There is a large difference between "Hey, we are looking for opinions on the reserve list from retailers since you will be affected by that" and "sell your stock, we're abolishing the reserve list."
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Feb 17, 2016 05:54
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Tom vs Efro on VSL has reached peak absurdity. They're both under Standstill and Crucible-Waste locked. My favorite part is that their plays are slightly changing every turn, but the board state itself isn't altering in any relevant way. We are at turn 37 with no spells having been cast for about 33 of those. And then it finally gets broken.
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Sigma-X posted:I mean this is kind of bullshit since they ship out godbooks (like what spoiled New Phyrexia) months in advance of spoiler season, unless they stopped doing that. Aren't those for the printers? There's a difference between whoever's printing the cards knowing what the cards are before release, and a store knowing which items of their stock are going to see an increase in supply.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Aren't those for the printers? There's a difference between whoever's printing the cards knowing what the cards are before release, and a store knowing which items of their stock are going to see an increase in supply. They sent out godbooks for magazines to do set reviews because of the additional time needed for printing, they don't do that after the NPH leak though.
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Myriad Truths posted:Tom vs Efro on VSL has reached peak absurdity. They're both under Standstill and Crucible-Waste locked. My favorite part is that their plays are slightly changing every turn, but the board state itself isn't altering in any relevant way. We are at turn 37 with no spells having been cast for about 33 of those. And then it finally gets broken. It's pretty clear that Martell has never engaged in the purest form of Magic, aka the Crucible mirror. He's also apparently never played Shops against a Landstill deck. Hint: you're not out-Landstilling a Landstill deck.
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Man, I have a lot of nostalgia for playing Vintage back when it first became a real thing on MTGO even though that was only 2 years ago. I only wish they just had them in the original frames and art for the old cards. It doesn't really feel like "Black Lotus" with random skeleton-man on it.
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Wasn't there a mod that changed all the Power Nine back to the original art that Wizards threw a fit about and shut down? Boo to that. EDIT: Ah yeah. Boo to this. Johnny Landmine fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Feb 17, 2016 |
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One day I'll know what it's like to be so attached to illustrations from an era of Magic that I never played in that I have convulsions over new art.
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"I wish they had the old art available." "It kinda was available for a bit but Wizards said not to use it, which is a bummer." "Holy poo poo, somebody call 911, these two have gone into convulsions!"
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Hopping Ghost posted:Wasn't there a mod that changed all the Power Nine back to the original art that Wizards threw a fit about and shut down? Boo to that. I have it installed. It still uses the stupid new frame though so it almost looks worse. Almost. Hopping Ghost posted:"I wish they had the old art available." This. Also I'm attached to the old art because I did play with it. And it's just better.
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Feb 17, 2016 07:47
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Most old Magic art would have been in the dregs of DeviantArt if it had existed in 1993. A lot of it was pretty mediocre in 1993.
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I labor under no delusion that turning the clock back towards classic magic art would be in any way the right decision, aesthetically or fiscally, but that doesn't stop me from wanting Foglios and Maddockses all day err day. edit: Actually I'd prefer Guays and MacDougalls over the really old stuff if given a choice but at this point Return to Lorwyn is probably only slightly more likely than Anson Maddocks doing cards again. Johnny Landmine fucked around with this message at 09:28 on Feb 17, 2016 |
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suicidesteve posted:This. Also I'm attached to the old art because I did play with it. And it's just better. No it's not
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Star Man posted:Most old Magic art would have been in the dregs of DeviantArt if it had existed in 1993. A lot of it was pretty mediocre in 1993. There's quite a bit of good art from the earliest periods of Magic. Quinton Hoover, Drew Tucker, Mark Tedin, Rob Alexander, Anson Maddocks, Andi Rusu, the Foglios, etc etc A lot of people dislike his work but I've always liked Pete Venters, he's a pretty dynamic artist with a strong sense of humor and the weird. Hopping Ghost posted:edit: Actually I'd prefer Guays and MacDougalls over the really old stuff if given a choice but at this point Return to Lorwyn is probably only slightly more likely than Anson Maddocks doing cards again. Yes.
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Four Score posted:No it's not quote:M: Oh look, this isn't an argument. Saved us all some time.
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Hopping Ghost posted:I labor under no delusion that turning the clock back towards classic magic art would be in any way the right decision, aesthetically or fiscally, but that doesn't stop me from wanting Foglios and Maddockses all day err day. I mean, several of the original group of illustrators survived Magic's beginning and still do work for the game or have made their careers on it. Mark Tedin's still working on the game. Mark Poole eventually got better. Douglas Shuler...sucks less. Dan Frazier is a gallery artist that just shows up to Magic events in Denver or wherever else and makes a killing redrawing the Moxen on playmats for the billionth time. And so on.
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Star Man posted:I mean, several of the original group of illustrators survived Magic's beginning and still do work for the game or have made their careers on it. Mark Tedin's still working on the game. Mark Poole eventually got better. Douglas Shuler...sucks less. Dan Frazier is a gallery artist that just shows up to Magic events in Denver or wherever else and makes a killing redrawing the Moxen on playmats for the billionth time. And so on. Mark Tedin hasnt done new magic art since NPH, he says they just don't call anymore 
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Cactrot posted:Mark Tedin hasnt done new magic art since NPH, he says they just don't call anymore This makes me sad, because I liked how they basically kept him on doing the same sort of creepy weird angular monster stuff he'd been doing more or less from day one. It's really cool to see, say, Emrakul, compared to Nevinyrral's Disk or Thought Lash or Leviathan or whatever and how his evolving technique kept some of his "classic Magic" style alive into newer sets. BFZ block really coulda used a Tedin Eldrazi or two. Maybe next time we see the Emrakul lineage! I don't mean to be overly reactionary and insist that Magic cards keep looking exactly the way I remembered as a kid, but at least for me there is something nostalgic and special in that early roughness that I still appreciate today. I think it's more than reasonable for someone to want to be able to recreate/hang on to that on MODO, especially when it should be possible to do so without affecting Wizards or other players in any way. There has been some really cool new art/artists! I like Seb McKinnon a lot. Some of his cards look like they're from an alternate universe where Mirage just came out (Rite of the Serpent), some could fit in Lorwyn/Shadowmoor (Attended Knight, Topplegeist), all of them have this otherworldly, painterly look while still fitting in with the brand in 2016.
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Melissa Benson and Mark Tedin were the face of Magic for a long time. I understand moving past Benson, but cutting out Tedin is, in the language of my people, A Dick Move.
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Maybe Tedin could've made Nissa's Magic Swirls Around Ferns Version 2 more unique than giving her a staff.
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Feb 17, 2016 16:05
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Tedin was always at his best drawing weird artifacts, you would have thought he'd be perfect for Hedrony stuff. 
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I like how the older cards look like a page from a wizard encyclopedia rather than a photo of something happening.
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Entropic posted:Tedin was always at his best drawing weird artifacts, you would have thought he'd be perfect for Hedrony stuff. Also anything with a carapace, tentacles or sinewy.        
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I understand why they went to a more consistent style guide based art style, the art in the old sets was all over the place. That meant you got some really cool unique stuff at the cost of some crap. Now the overall standard of the art is a lot higher but it all gets a bit samey.Toshimo posted:Melissa Benson and Mark Tedin were the face of Magic for a long time. I understand moving past Benson, but cutting out Tedin is, in the language of my people, A Dick Move. Cards like Shivan Dragon and Serra Angel were pretty drat iconic, but they definitely do look dated now if you look at them without your nostalgia goggles on.
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Entropic posted:I understand why they went to a more consistent style guide based art style, the art in the old sets was all over the place. That meant you got some really cool unique stuff at the cost of some crap. Now the overall standard of the art is a lot higher but it all gets a bit samey. And the consequence of this is Magic Origins level art direction.
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Dated is a good word for it, but compare the original Shivan Dragon to the most recent one, the old one is still better.
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