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Oh well utterly breaking the game on a trap doop secret store seemed to work for The Lost. Still missing Mega Satan and I did it on Normal but fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck it.
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Soy milk is another one of those items that's just plain bad 90% of the time. I had one run where I got cricket's body, followed by ipecac. That was already dangerous enough with just ipecac, let alone with splitting shots. Then I saw soy milk and just decided to go for it. Tiny little ipecac shots that exploded into 4 smaller ipecac shots, machinegunning out of me. It was actually kind of good at mincing bosses, but super, super dangerous to myself.
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Feb 12, 2016 11:04
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Slime posted:Soy milk is another one of those items that's just plain bad 90% of the time. I got this combo once, but it was in the Chest so I had plenty of defense to handle it. One of my favorite combos ever.
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Feb 12, 2016 19:54
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I've gotten 4 consecutive curse of the blind floors on a hard mode Eden run. What gives? Is it just horrible chance?
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Feb 14, 2016 04:39
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Aztec posted:I've gotten 4 consecutive curse of the blind floors on a hard mode Eden run. What gives? Is it just horrible chance? Yes
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Feb 14, 2016 14:22
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Aztec posted:I've gotten 4 consecutive curse of the blind floors on a hard mode Eden run. What gives? Is it just horrible chance? Edmund McMillian hates you, can't you see
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Feb 14, 2016 16:50
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I really, really hate The Lost.
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Feb 15, 2016 06:55
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Ironsolid posted:I really, really hate The Lost. Do you have the starting holy mantle for him from greed mode donations? The lost is a perfectly fine character with that.
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Feb 15, 2016 06:58
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Ironsolid posted:I really, really hate The Lost. Have you played The Keeper yet?
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Feb 15, 2016 06:58
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Dias posted:Have you played The Keeper yet? Yeah, his mechanics piss me off too. I've been playing rebirth on my Vita and finally unlocked the lost... The idea of unlocking god head terrifies me. Maybe if I'm able to get massive damage + tears up + Brimstone. That or getting gnawed leaf + daddy longlegs - I don't see myself completing this. Andrast posted:Do you have the starting holy mantle for him from greed mode donations? The lost is a perfectly fine character with that. Yeah, on my PC -.- Ironsolid fucked around with this message at 09:02 on Feb 15, 2016 |
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Feb 15, 2016 08:48
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I just started playing this game yesterday...my streak is sitting at -16. Is that a disproportionate amount of suck? This game is very hard and I'm not sure if it's my timing or my lack of understanding game features that keeps getting me killed (mostly by Dangle, he is the worst).
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Feb 15, 2016 13:42
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No, that's normal
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Feb 15, 2016 14:12
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Need No Instruction posted:I just started playing this game yesterday...my streak is sitting at -16. Is that a disproportionate amount of suck? This game is very hard and I'm not sure if it's my timing or my lack of understanding game features that keeps getting me killed (mostly by Dangle, he is the worst). You will learn. You have to first learn how to survive going deeper, then to learn to win runs, then to learn to win runs with lovely builds. The first phase will always produce bad streaks.
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Feb 15, 2016 17:01
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Need No Instruction posted:I just started playing this game yesterday...my streak is sitting at -16. Is that a disproportionate amount of suck? This game is very hard and I'm not sure if it's my timing or my lack of understanding game features that keeps getting me killed (mostly by Dangle, he is the worst). It took me about 50 losses to finally beat the first final boss, IIRC. BoI is hard and you will die, but you'll also learn how to not die and slowly progress.
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Feb 15, 2016 19:50
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Need No Instruction posted:I just started playing this game yesterday...my streak is sitting at -16. Is that a disproportionate amount of suck? This game is very hard and I'm not sure if it's my timing or my lack of understanding game features that keeps getting me killed (mostly by Dangle, he is the worst). I'm pretty sure I've had streaks of -80 or worse, and now the only things I have left to do (in PS4 rebirth, no afterbirth) is fill the post it note for The Lost and get the hard mode boss rushes. If you are enjoying the game, ignore the streak counter. You generally get the hang of the timings*, you get the hang of what items you like and what ones you dont, where the secret rooms tend to be, what devil deals are worth making. Then everything is terrible and the game gets harder again. Its a lot of fun. *Except Dingle. gently caress DINGLE. I have most of the early bosses down but I just cant differentiate his tell for charging from the one for shooting, so unless I have decent speed I take hits. Can still usually beat him, but take some damage.
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Feb 15, 2016 20:14
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SiKboy posted:I'm pretty sure I've had streaks of -80 or worse, and now the only things I have left to do (in PS4 rebirth, no afterbirth) is fill the post it note for The Lost and get the hard mode boss rushes. If you are enjoying the game, ignore the streak counter. You generally get the hang of the timings*, you get the hang of what items you like and what ones you dont, where the secret rooms tend to be, what devil deals are worth making. Then everything is terrible and the game gets harder again. Its a lot of fun. It's his expression
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AnonSpore posted:It's his expression This. If he's about to charge, he'll get all puffy-faced like a 4-year old holding their breath in a temper tantrum. The best way to avoid his charge attacks, if that's what's getting you, is to move perpendicular to the way he's charging at you. Directly above him? Move left or right. Across the room on your left? Move up or down. I think my biggest losing streak so far has been about 35, it's totally normal to suck badly at BoI when you start out. But remember, sucking at something is the first step to being sort of okay at it.
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Feb 15, 2016 21:02
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And don't shoot at him when he's charging. That changes his normally-straight course, and can deflect him into you.
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Feb 15, 2016 21:11
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Dingle used to be a pain for me, but yeah, dodge perpendicular to his charge and he's just kinda annoying. Most early bosses are "easy" but if you're understatted, kinda annoying. Like The Haunt with a slow/low-health character. "Oh, I'm sorry but the small cock ghosts decided to use a fuckin' flank formation and you're taking a hit. Also, Haunt decided to trap you with an unavoidable Brimstone because it took you a split second too long to avoid the corner". i miss the days of pin the stupid weak worm and the occasional horsemen now you get the stain on caves 1 sometimes
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Feb 15, 2016 21:14
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Dias posted:i miss the days of pin the stupid weak worm and the occasional horsemen Or a small room pestilence. I also really don't like the Rag man. He's not exactly hard but he has far too much HP so it takes forever to kill him if you have low damage.
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Feb 15, 2016 21:16
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Thanks for the encouragement dudes...I will keep plugging away. I didn't know that shooting mid charge would alter the course and that has probably accounted for a couple of my deaths. Also, there are two Golgothan poo poo Demons right? Dingle and Dangle? One of them is full of corn and he wrecks me everytime, the other one I can usually get past.
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Feb 15, 2016 21:24
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Dias posted:i miss the days of pin the stupid weak worm and the occasional horsemen
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Feb 15, 2016 21:27
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Need No Instruction posted:Thanks for the encouragement dudes...I will keep plugging away. I didn't know that shooting mid charge would alter the course and that has probably accounted for a couple of my deaths. Yellow Poop is Brown Poop's Big Brother and a bit harder. Big Round Yellow Poop (Brownie?) is the Poop Overlord and although I'm good at fighting it now, it puts so much literal poo poo on the screen sometimes you can't help but take damage.
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Need No Instruction posted:Also, there are two Golgothan poo poo Demons right? Dingle and Dangle? One of them is full of corn and he wrecks me everytime, the other one I can usually get past. Keep trying and have fun with Dingle's champion forms 
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I find the thing that throws me off about Dangle is when he spawns Dips - they're rushing at you when they appear, and if you're too close it's way too easy to get hit. I'm learning to keep my distance from Dangle more than I do with Dingle. They also spawn in the middle of the whistle, which is sooner than I usually expect.
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Feb 16, 2016 17:23
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 Doing the "Head Trauma" challenge. Things are going pretty well. Then this. Luckily the shuffle didn't hurt too bad. Had some damage ups come in on the next two levels. But was one of those "Oh fuuuuuuuuck you" moments.
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Feb 18, 2016 05:53
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hooolllly poo poo so i just did a keeper greed run, cuz i haven't done that yet it was quite literally the most powerful run i've ever had, there shouldn't have been anything to stop me, first floor i got crickets head from a stone chest, sweet, i'll stick with this run kill the enemies, get crickets body from the treasure room, i kept getting tears up, got a few okay damage ups along the way, doing risky deals with the devil and buying health back, chaos appeared, giving me swallowed penny, finished off my guppy transformation, godhead pops up, had the kidney stone a lot earlier, bought some protection in the form of extra lives, i'm killing the cage in about 1 second, a single one of my flies kills a regular greed get down to the main event, still terrified cuz i know i'll gently caress it up, watch one of my many flies fly into the mini greed and kill him, okay cool, notice i have a kidney stone charge, sweet, go into the boss room... he unhangs himself, i let go, his health bar literally just went from 100 to 0 in no joke 1 second - i've never seen a 'big' boss's health go down so insanely fast, i didn't even have my hands on the keyboard i just watched this bar go from full to not and then i got the rib of greed
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I thought Hush and Ultra Greed had damage scaled health to make them extra tanky to prevent one hit kills without Chaos Card. Was that confirmed or was it just conjecture based on people having tough times with both bosses even with builds that would insta-kill Mega Satan?
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My understanding is that they do have damage reduction, but for whatever reason spiders and flies ignore it. It's per-hit, so anything that does lots of hits very fast will clown Hush and Ultra Greed. Ultra Greed moreso because Hush will duck out of the way when he hits his damage thresholds, so Mega Maw isn't as effective on him as it is on UG. Sad Bombs with Brimstone or Mini Brim dropped right on top of Hush eat his health fast. That plus Bomber Boy is a hilariously fast way to kill Hush.
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Feb 18, 2016 21:30
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I just killed CHAD and got an 8 ball instead of the little chad item. Then when I went down to the depths I had chad with me despite him not being there on the previous floor.
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Feb 19, 2016 02:34
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Feels like no matter which way I go on the womb/cathedral/sheol it always turns out to be the wrong path. With no mapping I'll end up clearing the entire floor just trying to find the boss room.
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Feb 19, 2016 03:08
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Alteisen posted:I just killed CHAD and got an 8 ball instead of the little chad item. Did you have Cambion Conception? You might have gotten hit during the Chad battle, spawned LC, grabbed the 8 Ball, dropped down and then noticed. When I play as Lilith I constantly do this. "When the gently caress did I get Brother Bob-ohhhhhhhh."
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for anyone who wants to give it a whirl and have a look at the bullshit that was the damage on that run - MKVX 1K4S now i've found how to locate seeds i'm gonna go through it again and make a gif of the last 'fight' cuz it really was ridiculous
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Dias posted:Dingle used to be a pain for me, but yeah, dodge perpendicular to his charge and he's just kinda annoying. Most early bosses are "easy" but if you're understatted, kinda annoying. Like The Haunt with a slow/low-health character. "Oh, I'm sorry but the small cock ghosts decided to use a fuckin' flank formation and you're taking a hit. Also, Haunt decided to trap you with an unavoidable Brimstone because it took you a split second too long to avoid the corner". I'm very happy to see Dingle now because he actually has a recognizable pattern. I wish more of the bosses had tells, like if you could see whether Haunt was going to brimstone or spit at you.
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Prop Wash posted:I'm very happy to see Dingle now because he actually has a recognizable pattern. I wish more of the bosses had tells, like if you could see whether Haunt was going to brimstone or spit at you. You know who started to gently caress me up after Afterbirth because of that? Krumpus. I swear the rear end in a top hat had more of a tell to his Brimstone over his spit. Now it just phases into existence outta nowhere, and sometimes it even spins around to make sure you eat poo poo. Went from "aww, a waste of a devil deal" to "actually could kill me if I'm too slow".
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Dias posted:You know who started to gently caress me up after Afterbirth because of that? Krumpus. I swear the rear end in a top hat had more of a tell to his Brimstone over his spit. Now it just phases into existence outta nowhere, and sometimes it even spins around to make sure you eat poo poo. Went from "aww, a waste of a devil deal" to "actually could kill me if I'm too slow". The rotating brimstone he does can also be bullshit if he it does near a wall so you can't dodge. It's guaranteed damage.
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Andrast posted:The rotating brimstone he does can also be bullshit if he it does near a wall so you can't dodge. It's guaranteed damage.  There were always bullshit room layouts in rebirth where you will take damage if you don't have sufficient damage/flight. Far worse is the wall-hugging krampus, fallen's rotating beam attack while floating over a chasm, and the unavoidable damage trap room. Judas was my favorite rebirth character because he didn't rely on any item RNG, but in afterbirth he can die to unavoidable things if he doesn't get some buffer health first.
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here someone goes if anyone's vaguely interested - https://gfycat.com/SoggyVeneratedDeviltasmanian
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Balobam posted:here someone goes if anyone's vaguely interested - https://gfycat.com/SoggyVeneratedDeviltasmanian Yknow it's a little hard to tell but I think they won
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Sanctum posted:Yeah, that and the basement/cellar 'trap' room with exploding barrels+exploding rocks+potential troll bomb in the middle that makes a guaranteed 1 full heart damage if you enter the room from the top or bottom really make me hate afterbirth. Almost none of the rooms have unavoidable damage. For instance the one you posted can be cleared by standing in the south east corner and shooting one of the barrels in the north east corner.
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