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Trump took a dump on Bush from day one, just one long continuous poo poo with the occasional fart joining it, and it made him look like such a bitch it destroyed any and all chances he had at a future political career, let alone president If you had told me this six months ago I would have told you to go back to fyad
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Feb 21, 2016 18:11
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SO Collateral was a documentary?
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Feb 21, 2016 18:12
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I refuse to use Lyft now that I know I can be in the backseat to history with Uber.
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Feb 21, 2016 18:12
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Nonsense posted:I refuse to use Lyft now that I know I can be in the backseat to history with Uber. Nice use of metaphor
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Feb 21, 2016 18:18
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https://twitter.com/matthewjdowd/status/701392590495678464 Chief Political Analyst at ABC news, everyone.
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Feb 21, 2016 18:22
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Gotta make a living somehow - have you seen the price of ammunition nowadays?
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Feb 21, 2016 18:28
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Xae posted:State of the Art Background Checks in action. There's a good chance he didn't have a record. poo poo like this underscores why all the mooing from the herd about "assault weapons" and expanding background checks is useless. You're not going to solve this with half-measures, because mass shootings are committed by suicidal sociopaths who want to go out in a blaze of glory.
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Feb 21, 2016 18:34
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:There's a good chance he didn't have a record. Also known as the "Falling Down was/wasn't a documentary" argument.
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Feb 21, 2016 18:36
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Rhesus Pieces posted:https://twitter.com/matthewjdowd/status/701392590495678464 Also former chief strategist for Bush's 2004 campaign and coauthor along with Ron "Why Won't Obama LEAD?" Fournier of this magical tome: http://www.amazon.com/Applebees-America-Successful-Political-Religious/dp/0743287193 quote:Since the 1990s, they argue, the key to winning the hearts, dollars and votes of the American public and its leaders is appealing to "the three C's, connections, community, and civic engagement." Drawing on interviews with the middle class "exurb" residents who eat at Applebee's restaurants, as well as their own inside knowledge, the authors declare that the pattern holds across the greater part of the American spectrum. Though their narrow interview sample is a weakness, they draw conclusions about the political arena, where lifelong Democrats voted for Bush in 2004 on "gut instinct"; the business world, where customers at the more than 1,700 Applebee's restaurants deem it "a second home"; and in megachurches, which fulfill Americans "need for belonging and purpose in a new century."
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Feb 21, 2016 18:59
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:There's a good chance he didn't have a record. Yeah if you can't reduce the number of crazy people forced to work to survive you better not try to limit their access to tools of destruction!
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Feb 21, 2016 19:00
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PhazonLink posted:I hate to poke the can of worms that is primary chat, but what is this talk about Clinton losing badly against Trump? Is it just primary noise that should be ignored or what? This link shows add buys by the PACs. http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...e_the_2016.html Watch the spending animation to the end to see where jebs pac money went.
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Feb 21, 2016 19:03
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comes along bort posted:Also former chief strategist for Bush's 2004 campaign and coauthor along with Ron "Why Won't Obama LEAD?" Fournier of this magical tome: Applebee's America is a good book even if you disagree with the politics behind the authors.
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Feb 21, 2016 19:07
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Trabisnikof posted:Applebee's America is a good book even if you disagree with the politics behind the authors. Sure if you're interested in what passed for Beltway conventional wisdom a decade ago. It's a more teased-out version of David Brooks' execrable Atlantic article that gave us the red state/blue state false dichotomy.
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Feb 21, 2016 19:14
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It's primary news which is probably why I didn't see it here, but  apparently backed Rubio.We need a smilie of the water wheel robot from Futurama with Rubios head on it.
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Feb 21, 2016 19:14
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Trabisnikof posted:Yeah if you can't reduce the number of crazy people forced to work to survive you better not try to limit their access to tools of destruction! You misunderstand. There are no proposals out there that will limit their access to tools of destruction. The effective gun control measure is a ban on semiautomatic firearms. If that's politically impossible, then unless the point is to drum up the base instead of solving problems, it's a pretty stupid way to go with "ban the assault weapons!" If the goal is to incrementally inch closer to making a complete ban possible (e.g. the Republican approach to abortion) that's a better argument, but the public is under the false impression that things like background checks are going to prevent things like school shootings. Proposals like voluntary mental health treatment disqualifying you from purchasing firearms would actually make things worse. Most of the others do not even touch the actual problems. This isn't a restatement of the bullshit Republican argument of "we just need better mental health treatment, plz ignore man behind curtain." No, we need social policies that prevent this kind of desperate breakdown, and we need to destigmatize mental health treatment.
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Feb 21, 2016 19:15
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comes along bort posted:Sure if you're interested in what passed for Beltway conventional wisdom a decade ago. Eh, the main points of value were more about the drive for community in the American voter, something that's true to this day. I wouldn't read it looking for dirt or fun gossip.
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Feb 21, 2016 19:24
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fknlo posted:It's primary news which is probably why I didn't see it here, but Probably because, with Jeb out, Rubio is the presumptive mainstream pick. Kasich has already proven to be a non-candidate (he barely registered in SC) so he's not going to pick up that mantle, even if he stays in until Michigan.
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Feb 21, 2016 19:28
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Man, now Uber is going to have to burn ANOTHER billion just to keep the lights on The VCs are gonna be pissed
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Feb 21, 2016 19:39
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Fried Chicken posted:Thanks but I still don't see anything under setting for it. I'm on iPhone if that matters Sorry, some of us bought phones that aren't terrible 
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Feb 21, 2016 19:41
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Rhesus Pieces posted:https://twitter.com/matthewjdowd/status/701392590495678464 Oh god the Dowds are multiplying
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Feb 21, 2016 19:54
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:You misunderstand. There are no proposals out there that will limit their access to tools of destruction. The effective gun control measure is a ban on semiautomatic firearms. If that's politically impossible, then unless the point is to drum up the base instead of solving problems, it's a pretty stupid way to go with "ban the assault weapons!" If the goal is to incrementally inch closer to making a complete ban possible (e.g. the Republican approach to abortion) that's a better argument, but the public is under the false impression that things like background checks are going to prevent things like school shootings. Proposals like voluntary mental health treatment disqualifying you from purchasing firearms would actually make things worse. Most of the others do not even touch the actual problems. I'm not sure any policies can stop it at this point short of poo poo that would rival Ted Nugent's deepest insurgency fantasies. There will always be rare (and they are rare) hellraisers who have learned that they can get nationally, eternally famous by shooting up people so they're going to do it. You don't need to be mentally ill in order to be willing to shoot up first-graders.
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Feb 21, 2016 20:08
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This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!
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I last heard the Koch Brothers are spending about $890 million dollars on the 2016 election. But I never hear where that money is going - is it to a particular candidate, a bunch of shadowy interest groups like Americans for Prosperity (the latter I think)? I'm sure their influence behind the election is all over the place, but with Trump winning and beating the "establishment" I wonder how much of their money is being wasted...?
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Feb 21, 2016 20:12
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PhazonLink posted:I hate to poke the can of worms that is primary chat, but what is this talk about Clinton losing badly against Trump? Is it just primary noise that should be ignored or what? Probably helped along by the GOP primary voter numbers being much higher than 2012 while the Dem numbers are down. If that would carry in to the general election the Dems would probably lose close states like Florida and a few other battleground states would be in danger.
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Feb 21, 2016 20:13
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Rhesus Pieces posted:https://twitter.com/matthewjdowd/status/701392590495678464 He's not wrong. Trump only got a minority of votes in a multi-person field and does not do well among late-deciders and undecided, generally. It's possible -- though I think increasingly, and scarily unlikely, that in a two-way race that he loses.
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Feb 21, 2016 20:13
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:I last heard the Koch Brothers are spending about $890 million dollars on the 2016 election. But I never hear where that money is going - is it to a particular candidate, a bunch of shadowy interest groups like Americans for Prosperity (the latter I think)? I'm sure their influence behind the election is all over the place, but with Trump winning and beating the "establishment" I wonder how much of their money is being wasted...? They've had a fair bit of success at the lower level elections. Look at Scott Walker and Wisconsin.
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Feb 21, 2016 20:14
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FiveThirtyEight had an actual decent article about Rubio possibly winning the nomination. http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-optimists-and-trump-skeptics-are-about-to-go-to-war/
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Feb 21, 2016 20:14
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In Non-Primary News, some rumors about Obama maybe thinking about picking a moderate, purple-state Republican: http://morningconsult.com/2016/02/sandoval-has-spoken-to-reid-heller-about-supreme-court-seat/
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Feb 21, 2016 20:16
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:I last heard the Koch Brothers are spending about $890 million dollars on the 2016 election. But I never hear where that money is going - is it to a particular candidate, a bunch of shadowy interest groups like Americans for Prosperity (the latter I think)? I'm sure their influence behind the election is all over the place, but with Trump winning and beating the "establishment" I wonder how much of their money is being wasted...? This is why it's a mystery why so many on the left want to reverse Citizens United, personally I love rich morons lighting their money on fire by supporting Walker and Jeb!
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Feb 21, 2016 20:18
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:There's a good chance he didn't have a record. I agree, repeal the 2nd amendment I'm not joking
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Feb 21, 2016 20:18
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Run that past me again? What the gently caress is this? Some kind of bullshit  "Us shitfarmer midwesterners with no taste and less sense are the real americans" play? So many questions.
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Feb 21, 2016 20:19
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DeusExMachinima posted:I'm not sure any policies can stop it at this point short of poo poo that would rival Ted Nugent's deepest insurgency fantasies. There will always be rare (and they are rare) hellraisers who have learned that they can get nationally, eternally famous by shooting up people so they're going to do it. You don't need to be mentally ill in order to be willing to shoot up first-graders. A national guaranteed mincome and a national agreement by major media to no longer report would go a long way, though.
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Feb 21, 2016 20:21
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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:This is why it's a mystery why so many on the left want to reverse Citizens United, personally I love rich morons lighting their money on fire by supporting Walker and Jeb! But but Barnier Sandlers has been repeatedly assuring me that money has bought our democracy! That's why we're definitely going to have to choose between Jeb Bush and Hildawg come fall! Not to mention that if you can't legally exchange money to purchase airtime to broadcast your political speech that's censorship. Complaints about some people having more speech (audience, influence) are just that--complaints. You don't have the right to have the same amount of influence as everyone else, only to be free from censorship.
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Feb 21, 2016 20:22
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:In Non-Primary News, some rumors about Obama maybe thinking about picking a moderate, purple-state Republican: http://morningconsult.com/2016/02/sandoval-has-spoken-to-reid-heller-about-supreme-court-seat/ Would be a great troll to pick the Dover Trial judge. Wasn't that guy a Reagan appointee?
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Feb 21, 2016 20:22
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:A national guaranteed mincome and a national agreement by major media to no longer report would go a long way, though. A law forbidding reportage of mass shootings would absolutely save more lives than an AWB (as in, it would save more than loving zero lives). Of course that law shouldn't happen because rights aren't as malleable nor are mass shootings as significant and important as public safety types would like to imagine.
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Feb 21, 2016 20:24
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Tarezax posted:Would be a great troll to pick the Dover Trial judge. Wasn't that guy a Reagan appointee? lol, yeah i think/ Sandoval would be an interesting choice, though. Harry Reid could whip enough Dems for him --though the Left wing of the party would be furious -- and it would be much harder for Republicans to stonewall one of their own.
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Feb 21, 2016 20:24
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:In Non-Primary News, some rumors about Obama maybe thinking about picking a moderate, purple-state Republican: http://morningconsult.com/2016/02/sandoval-has-spoken-to-reid-heller-about-supreme-court-seat/ I think he might be. Also way more non judges served on the Supreme Court than I thought EwokEntourage fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Feb 21, 2016 |
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Feb 21, 2016 20:27
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DeusExMachinima posted:A law forbidding reportage of mass shootings would absolutely save more lives than an AWB (as in, it would save more than loving zero lives). Of course that law shouldn't happen because rights aren't as malleable nor are mass shootings as significant and important as public safety types would like to imagine. Yeah it can't be done by law but it could be done voluntarily, as with rape victim names, if our media weren't a disgrace.
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Feb 21, 2016 20:31
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DeusExMachinima posted:A law forbidding reportage of mass shootings would absolutely save more lives than an AWB (as in, it would save more than loving zero lives). Of course that law shouldn't happen because rights aren't as malleable nor are mass shootings as significant and important as public safety types would like to imagine. Yup, it couldn't be a law but it could be done via general agreement, like with rape victim names or other kinds of suicide reporting.
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CaPensiPraxis posted:Run that past me again? What the gently caress is this? Some kind of bullshit David Brooks called it the Meatloaf Line.
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