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I still feel the Birn, it lights a fire in my heart.
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UrbicaMortis posted:Frelinghuysen seems like a decent sort. Shame he's only VP. Frelinghuysen believes that Catholics are immigrating to the United States as part of some grand Papist conspiracy and has been harassing random immigrants to convert to his brand of evangelical Christianity. He's laying the groundwork to the Native American Party and was selected partly to boost Clay's nativist credentials. Other than that, though, he's pretty cool. Solidly not terrible on natives or slavery. QuoProQuid has issued a correction as of 18:02 on Feb 21, 2016 |
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Feb 21, 2016 18:00
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  Coincidence? I think not! Vote Clay/Frelinghuysen 1844!
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Still feelin' the Birn. Plus, hey, we've only had two presidents with more than one term so far.
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You guys, I think we may have broken the country.  Gonna need a whole lot of hard cider to fix this.
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Feb 21, 2016 18:28
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Feb 21, 2016 18:41
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Goddamn it, Birn, why you haven't you abolished slavery yet? You had four years. Still voting for you.
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Feb 21, 2016 18:47
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We must defeat the slaveocrats! Four more years!
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Lycus posted:Goddamn it, Birn, why you haven't you abolished slavery yet? You had four years. Still voting for you. William Tecumseh Sherman is still just a Lieutenant at this point. Gotta give him some time to get up to speed before you cut him lose to burn down the aristocratic fuckers.
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Feb 21, 2016 18:49
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Pakled posted:Required listening: IMO this entire thread has been a pretext or a secret race to post this song. Congratulations! You won! e: So I kind of like the looks of this sketchy looking character running with the Brin. I bet I'd be dissapointed if I read more about him, huh? Octatonic has issued a correction as of 19:17 on Feb 21, 2016 |
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I feel like the whigs are the way to go this time, as a party that stands a decent chance in the real world and unlike the Liberty party, doesn't believe in spreading war.
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CuwiKhons posted:gently caress Polk and his manifest destiny bullshit.  America needs to keep Birning
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Octatonic posted:IMO this entire thread has been a pretext or a secret race to post this song. Congratulations! You won! If you would like, you can read his career-making speech which he delivered from the floor of the United States Senate. It's long but he attacks Clay, Calhoun, and the entire Southern planter class for denying equal rights to African Americans and then proceeds to lay out his vision for the country. The speech was distributed as part of the Liberty Party's campaign and may have contributed to their unusual success in Northern states during the election. It is is also probably why he lost his Senate seat. QuoProQuid has issued a correction as of 19:27 on Feb 21, 2016 |
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Feb 21, 2016 19:24
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Good that I'm not the only who sees this similarity. Still, I'm feeling the Birn!
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Octatonic posted:IMO this entire thread has been a pretext or a secret race to post this song. Congratulations! You won! This thread is a lot like the Papists and the Freemasons. It has a lot of secret agendas and seeks to convert you to its brand of thinking. Also, it should be birnt to the ground. That being said, Vote Clay. 
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i'll go with clay this time but am looking forward to the paragraph qpq has to write up attempting to explain the events surrounding the reelection of a man who was presumably lynched in a civil war before he could be sworn into office
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Polk actually ordered the envoy negotiating mexican cessions to get more, possibly much more, than what they actually annexed. But the guy just didn't care and settled for "pretty borders" like any self-respecting Paradox player. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Trist
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Carrasco posted:Still feelin' the Birn. Plus, hey, we've only had two presidents with more than one term so far. DeWitt Clinton served twice in 1812 and 1820, and while his terms were not consecutive, he is still the only president with more than one term who's family name wasn't "Adams". That being said, let's make Birney president again before his VP dies. FOUR MORE YEARS!!!
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James Polk Will Make America Great In The First Place
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gently caress Polk in general, but I stand strongly for 54-40 and fight, because I want those furs and gold from the northern part of the Oregon Territory. The lands are beautiful, it seems a special and sacred place. I'd not have filthy Canadians mucking about up there, having their ways with our pigs. Then again, gently caress Texas, let them rot. Clay is just middle-of-the-road bullshit. He believes in nothing except getting elected. Birney is still the closest to my views, except he will not get us that sweet sweet land... I come to the conclusion I must support the freedom of humanity over the pretty lands, and let the barbarous Canadians have their way. Four more years!
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Proposition Joe posted:James Polk Will Make America Great In The First Place  POLK (far right, holding flag): Welcome Texas! Welcome brothers! STEPHEN AUSTIN, TEXAN REVOLUTIONARY: "All hail to James K. Polk, the frined [sic] of our Country!" HENRY CLAY, PERFIDIOUS WHIG (holding rope): "Curse the day that ever I got hold of this rope! this is a bad place to let go of it--But I must!" FRELINGHUYSON, MISGUIDED EVANGELICAL: "Oh evil day, that ever I got into the footsteps of my predecessor." DANIEL WEBSTER, TRAITOROUS YANKEE: "If we let go, we are ruined, and if we hold on--Oh! crackee!" WILLIAM LLOYD GARRISON, LIBERTY PARTY FOUNDER (threatening to destroy Union with powder keg labelled "abolition"): "Avaunt! unholy man! I will not keep company with a blackleg!"
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foobardog posted:Birney is still the closest to my views, except he will not get us that sweet sweet land... Actually, given his apparent view that America should expand freedom to everywhere, Birn seems like the only option for full Oregon, no Texas.
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Ibogaine posted:DeWitt Clinton served twice in 1812 and 1820, and while his terms were not consecutive, he is still the only president with more than one term who's family name wasn't "Adams". That being said, let's make Birney president again before his VP dies. Huh, I somehow missed that we had our very own Grover Cleveland. Cool.
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Considering that Thomas Morris is unlikely to make it, I think Birney should keep a second VP candidate in mind. Perhaps that firebrand Pennsylvanian lawyer, Thaddeus Stevens? 
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reignonyourparade posted:Actually, given his apparent view that America should expand freedom to everywhere, Birn seems like the only option for full Oregon, no Texas. Oh poo poo, I didn't notice that when I read the blurb, I was kind of distracted by his support for temperance (that is, alcohol prohibition). My politics are basically Get Drunk, Get High, Be Free, Be Excellent To Each Other... OR ELSE. So yes, I guess I am Ted "Theodore" Logan meets Donaka Mark.
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oystertoadfish posted:every time i see an old newspaper the font is tiny, even in these kinds of things, the market for high-magnification reading glasses must've been booming It's a conspiracy of the crypto-literates and their monopoly on the glass production lines.
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voted clay because gently caress texas. we can save america by keeping it from ever joining. axeil has issued a correction as of 00:10 on Feb 22, 2016 |
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Two terms! Birney! Ol' "Two-term" Birney!
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lambeth posted:Considering that Thomas Morris is unlikely to make it, I think Birney should keep a second VP candidate in mind. Perhaps that firebrand Pennsylvanian lawyer, Thaddeus Stevens? Stevens actually supported Clay this year (and Taylor in four years).
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Corek posted:Stevens actually supported Clay this year (and Taylor in four years). I know, but I'd like to think in our version of history, Stevens has been inspired by President Birney to join the Liberty Party and supports him instead. He jumped between so many parties that that wouldn't be surprising if he'd popped up in Liberty Party as well.
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Sorely disappointed that these so-called "presidential candidates" have not offered their views on Hollow Earth policy. Why prop up backwater slavers or confront the Queen in the vast northern wilderness when there is a great bounty of territory right below our feet?
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The Masons... have emerged victorious from the dark caverns below.  I do not yet have a strong opinion on this election and am open to reasonable and/or appropriately insane arguments.
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Vote Polk. Sign legislation that will outlaw Canada forever. Begin bombing in five minutes.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:I do not yet have a strong opinion on this election and am open to reasonable and/or appropriately insane arguments. Vote Birn and either save the country or throw it into a bloody civil war.
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Bip Roberts posted:Vote Polk. Sign legislation that will outlaw Canada forever. Begin bombing in five minutes. Are there even bombs yet? No planes. There are cannons, but not really rifling. Effective grenades don't really exist yet, dynamite and TNT haven't been developed yet. It also can't be done in 5 minutes! Man, War is Hell.
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Voted The past is obdurate, Jake. It doesn't want to be changed.
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apparently the french were using observation balloons in war in the 1790's but napoleon dissolved the balloon corps. pretty much the same thing happened for the union army in the civil war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_military_ballooning it looks like even in wwi they were still used for artillery observation more than dropping poo poo on people, i think artillery was always a better way to get the explosives where they needed to be and weight was at a premium. obviously by wwi you have heavier-than-air flight which was where the bombing ideas ended up going
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