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"I don't like them hippity hoppity thugs" -Dan Snyder
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Zypher posted:ESPN's effort post on the LA relocation made it seem like the Raiders were hardly even considered because the old white men running things were scared of how LA gangs had previously co-opted Raiders swag. Marketing directly to hip hop groups was the smartest thing Al Davis ever done.
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Feb 17, 2016 16:02
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Zypher posted:ESPN's effort post on the LA relocation made it seem like the Raiders were hardly even considered because the old white men running things were scared of how LA gangs had previously co-opted Raiders swag. Yeah, I noticed that too. It would have been more than enough to say "Kroenke had the money and Dean was a company man"
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Feb 17, 2016 17:50
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If that's all they focused on the Raiders wouldn't have even been mentioned in the article tho. They had to at least find out owners opinions on the Raiders being involved in the deal to throw me a bone.
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Feb 17, 2016 18:46
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:Marketing directly to hip hop groups was the smartest thing Al Davis ever done. Nope. All about the corporate luxury dollars. Also he didn't 'market to them' they coopted the merchandise. Take some time on Al Davis' wikipedia page today guy, he did a lot of sneaky-smart poo poo and loved jacking the league up.
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Feb 17, 2016 20:08
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Yeah, but Al definitely embraced that. They still play the ice cube song after every touchdown.
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Feb 17, 2016 20:10
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Zypher posted:ESPN's effort post on the LA relocation made it seem like the Raiders were hardly even considered because the old white men running things were scared of how LA gangs had previously co-opted Raiders swag. How many deaths are we going to have to hear about because people are unwilling to let go of their Raiders snapbacks? 
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Feb 17, 2016 20:31
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Ammanas posted:Nope. All about the corporate luxury dollars. Also he didn't 'market to them' they coopted the merchandise. He made sure they put up Commitment to Excellence signs on just about every street corner in Compton. They might not have marketed DIRECTLY to hip hop, but they absolutely did to the working class black community.
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Feb 17, 2016 20:33
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I think it's mentioned in that 30 For 30 that the Raiders would give free hats and jackets and poo poo to NWA.
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Feb 17, 2016 21:46
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:What's the point of being in the middle of a desert if you can't use 110 degree heat against your opponents? Good luck filling that open stadium for a 2pm start in a world of cheap 50" flat panels. Cardinals fans have juuuuuuust maybe turned a corner from fair weather to cloudy weather fans. UOP is a big part of that.
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Feb 19, 2016 02:41
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I remember reading articles about the ASU stadium being a literal burn hazard.
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Feb 19, 2016 03:02
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MechaFrogzilla posted:How about Toledo? The point was not distance, it was about sticking them in Ohio, where no self-respecting Michigander would want to follow them. I want to punish Grand Rapids though
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Feb 19, 2016 22:38
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AsInHowe posted:I want to punish Grand Rapids though Yeah gently caress them
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Feb 19, 2016 23:54
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kiimo posted:I remember reading articles about the ASU stadium being a literal burn hazard. It was really rough. It's gonna be pretty nice once they're finished with the renovation, though. Thank god for Pac 12 Network money.
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Feb 20, 2016 00:01
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Fun fact if you drive on the 405N past Ikea there is a building in Carson that still has banners hanging up that say "Welcome Raiders" & "Welcome Chargers".
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Feb 22, 2016 01:09
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Christ Pseudoscientist posted:Fun fact if you drive on the 405N past Ikea there is a building in Carson that still has banners hanging up that say "Welcome Raiders" & "Welcome Chargers". It would cost money to pull them down. Someone kickstarter getting them changed to gently caress Kroenke.
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Feb 23, 2016 23:25
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Let's leave them up and see if they start to change shape and color like this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LppK4ZtsDdM
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Feb 23, 2016 23:30
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Chargers are "focusing their efforts downtown": http://www.chargers.com/news/2016/02/23/chargers-focus-efforts-downtown Worst euphemism ever.
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Feb 24, 2016 00:19
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This is a pretty big deal
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Feb 24, 2016 00:41
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chargers are as good as gone. home games are gonna be pretty lol next year
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Feb 24, 2016 01:31
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It will all depend on financing, but...yeah, good luck.
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Feb 24, 2016 01:50
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kiimo posted:I still can see a vision in my mind of a Chargers stadium downtown that somehow lets out into Gaslamp and its glorious. Like Wrigley Field glorious. San Diego Chargers posted:At the same time, we have considered the potential benefits to both the greater San Diego region and the Chargers of a multi-use stadium/convention center facility downtown. The multi-use facility, when combined with Petco Park, the existing Convention Center, the Gaslamp Quarter, and a revitalized East Village, would create an unparalleled entertainment and sports district that will host Super Bowls and will ideally be a permanent home for Comic-Con and a Comic-Con museum.
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Feb 24, 2016 01:53
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i can just see the drunken marine sidewalk fights now
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Feb 24, 2016 01:54
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A Comic Con museum? poo poo, our country sucks. I embrace your iron boot, Putin. Come and save us from ourselves.
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Feb 24, 2016 01:57
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gently caress Comic-Con. Like, really.
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Feb 24, 2016 01:58
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There is one Comic-Con, everybody knows it's in San Diego. All the tentpoles these days feel pressure to do something for Comic-Con. It makes a poo poo load of money and is something San Diego is famous for. Don't hate on the Comic-Con just because you hate greaseball nerds, we all do. But it's good for San Diego.
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Feb 24, 2016 02:02
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I can appreciate what it does for San Diego and say gently caress Comic Con at the same time its not mutually exclusive ok!!!! Much in the way I can say gently caress The Chargers and say  Chargers B1tch!!! at the same time.
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Feb 24, 2016 02:04
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Also voters will actually vote to keep Comic Con, so if the stadium is part of that package, it has a higher chance of passing
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Feb 24, 2016 02:18
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Ross Angeles posted:Also voters will actually vote to keep Comic Con, so if the stadium is part of that package, it has a higher chance of passing Are you saying the Comicon committee is hitching their wagon to Spanos? Sounds like a terrible idea for all involved.
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Feb 24, 2016 02:38
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Zurreco posted:Are you saying the Comicon committee is hitching their wagon to Spanos? Sounds like a terrible idea for all involved. No, it's the other way around, the Chargers are trying to jump on the Comicon bandwagon to sneak a stadium in with a convention center expansion.
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Feb 24, 2016 02:39
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Zurreco posted:Are you saying the Comicon committee is hitching their wagon to Spanos? Sounds like a terrible idea for all involved. Other way around. Spanos is hitching his wagon to Comiccon
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Feb 24, 2016 02:47
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Christ Pseudoscientist posted:Fun fact if you drive on the 405N past Ikea there is a building in Carson that still has banners hanging up that say "Welcome Raiders" & "Welcome Chargers". The SB 405 offramp at Avalon changed its name to Stadium Way lol
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Feb 24, 2016 02:54
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Now I'm imagining Dan Rooney working with Anthrocon and it's making me uncomfortable
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Feb 24, 2016 02:58
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Comic-Con doesn't want the Chargers downtown. They want an expansion to the convention center, not a satellite. This is also want the hotels want, so they'll throw their money against the Chargers in downtown. Chargers are as good as gone.
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Feb 24, 2016 03:00
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Ross Angeles posted:Other way around. Spanos is hitching his wagon to Comiccon Right, but Comicon can very easily tell him to gently caress off. They're gonna get whatever they want at this point, including an expansion to the convention center, so why the hell would they let Spanos get anywhere near them, especially with a public vote? If anything, they want less Chargers presence downtown so that they don't have to share their already good thing™ and will push back against it.
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Feb 24, 2016 03:10
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Ragnarok the Red posted:So is like the potential for the Las Vegas Raiders still just a distant pipe dream? The Sands CEO wants to build a billion dollar stadium for UNLV near the strip that'll seat 65k the teams could share. It'll stop being a distant pipe dream if the asking price for public funds for the stadium goes down. Even then it'll only be a little bit closer distant pipe dream.
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Feb 24, 2016 03:49
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Now I'm picturing headlines "Nerds run Jocks out of San Diego"...should be interesting. Ross, what's your thoughts...is downtown viable?
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Feb 24, 2016 04:33
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Donkwich posted:Now I'm imagining Dan Rooney working with Anthrocon and it's making me uncomfortable Nothing at Anthrocon is as unsettling as Steely McBeam
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Feb 24, 2016 04:36
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I cannot believe Comic-Con has entered into the god drat NFL stadium conversation. I lust for death.
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Feb 24, 2016 05:08
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Chinatown posted:I cannot believe Comic-Con has entered into the god drat NFL stadium conversation. Comicon dominates downtown SD, so of course it was bound to come up. Even when they built PetCo, Comicon quickly assimilated it and uses it for fun stuff during the event and everyone just kinda accepted it as an inevitable feature of being downtown. HOWEVER, PetCo is far enough away that the two can be treated as independent, and there's no way that the Padres are gonna compete with one of the biggest draws to the downtown area. Aside from Padres games and Comicon, people don't really go to downtown SD unless they wanna drink or go look at whales, and both activities are pretty isolated from the rest of the city. That being said, when the Chargers talk about building a new arena anywhere near an already overutilized part of town, there are going to be direct conflicts that Spanos can't win. The convention center is surrounded by very expensive and very lucrative high rises that are definitely not for sale. The only thing remaining is the docks/train yard SE of the convention center that are partially federally owned and would probably be earmarked for a convention center expansion rather than a new stadium. Downtown is not a viable option.
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Feb 24, 2016 07:11
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