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Eonwe posted:I legitimately had a lot of fun in this beta, and after playing it I don't even want to necessarily be like "its a bad game but" This is a good summery of my beta experience as well. The crafting and workers system is so in-depth that I found myself playing for several hours without killing a single mob and still feeling like I was making real progress on my character. This is definitely not a typical game and while I have serious doubts that we will be able to have as much fun in PVP as we are hoping, the other systems alone are well worth the $30. Plus this is hands down the best looking MMO I've played. By some dark magic the towns really do seem "alive" as cliche as that sounds.
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Eonwe posted:oh, can someone explain siege PvP for me, like how that works and stuff?
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LegalPad posted:By some dark magic the towns really do seem "alive" as cliche as that sounds. They hit a sweet spot with NPC density and they did a good job with how the NPCs interact with each other. Part of it is animations but it is also graphics quality. The facial expressions and the way they look at each other feels more real and less like a deer in headlights.
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Xavier434 posted:They hit a sweet spot with NPC density and they did a good job with how the NPCs interact with each other. Part of it is animations but it is also graphics quality. The facial expressions and the way they look at each other feels more real and less like a deer in headlights. They also did a really good job on the foliage and terrain. There is enough ground cover and random bushes and flowers and stuff that areas like the little valleys and meadows that you can find off the beaten path look really, really pretty and much more natural than in most other games. I also love that I didn't encounter a single invisible wall anywhere. I know there are some blocking off the actual edges of the map, but there's none separating the inland areas and if you want you can just pick a direction, climb over pretty much any mountain in your way, and get to the other side with no trouble. The "parkour" system is really handy for climbing up rocky cliffs and hills that you'd never be able to scale in a regular mmo. And then you climb a random mountain and there's stuff up there like herbs and ore and horses! This is a Good Game and I really want to play it more.
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lewtt posted:the servers are in san jose, california. ie literally on USA West Coast Ah that's why I have a ping of 5. I thought I was just being lied too.
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Feb 22, 2016 06:47
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I played a Zerker. It was pretty fun, I will probably roll one again as an alt. You get lotsa of AoE abilities, and a lot of pretty cool grappling abilities that deal decent single target damage and allow you to basically smack people around with the person you grappled. One of the issues I found with it though is that you really don't know what you can grapple and what you can't until you actually try, like there were beetles I could grapple, and goblins I couldn't. It's pretty easy to play though, everything you do deals lots of damage and you get plenty of extra hp. The class however has basically no evasion access however (compared to sorceress), so it becomes a bit more difficult to solo various higher level bosses besides the standard evasion dodge (since you can't really tank too many hits head on without chainsmoking potions).
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Lt. Lizard posted:Middleish Europe. I am getting 200-300 ping on average with a 300+ spikes if there are a lot of players nearby. It would be annoying but playable in no-action MMO, but here it is extremely noticeable, especially when using any mobility skill, which usually ends up with lag and me either rubber-banding or being randomly teleported around. On EU server I have sub 100 ping, and the difference in how the game feels and plays is incredible (duh). That's like a normal day for any Oceanic player used to playing an a NA server. I get 400 or 450+ on an EU server in most games. You get used to it  but if you have the option for a better ping then sure, go for it.
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SweetBro posted:The class however has basically no evasion access however (compared to sorceress), so it becomes a bit more difficult to solo various higher level bosses besides the standard evasion dodge (since you can't really tank too many hits head on without chainsmoking potions).
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My opinion really doesn't matter, but I ended up digging the game a bunch even though there's some real problems I have with it. Like how you can't trade a lot of things between people, making those elaborate trade and worker networks you set up more useful to you than others, or how you can't make any armour into a costume or that there's a bunch of other races you can't be. I found the game really charming and full of life. They voice acted lines for every merchant and wrote out a little backstory for each, and gave everyone their own interests that paint a bit of a picture of them. There's a priest who only wants to talk about theology and a missionary that loves to talk about the people in the town she's in, there's a farmer who wants to hear about adventurers and a merchant who can't recognize faces and only wants to talk about economics. There's a ton of ambient dialogue too, which makes me respect the game and publisher even if some of the voice acting feels out of a dub from the 90's. The combat is amazing, and things did get harder as I got higher level. While I had the same general strategy throughout, I had to amend tactics sometimes when I realized that certain guys didn't fall over or slow down. I don't know if it will be fun in a team, but I was heartened that it wouldn't just be a spam fest through the whole game. As someone who doesn't care about PvP all that much anymore, this is a big deal to me. I don't mind it, but I'm not salivating over 1v1 duels and gank strategy. I honestly wouldn't have cared at all about this game if it weren't for how many buttons the Wizard class pushed for me and getting a key from some giveaway. I don't get the feeling this game is going to be very popular, but that's OK by me. As long as they bring over the expansions, I almost would prefer to have a co-op RPG experience in it. It's a surprisingly rich world with a downright shocking about of characterization in it. It's not a story game(that poor woman is always going to be hysterical about the imps on her farm no matter how many I exploded, poor lady), but it's got so much atmosphere that I wished it was. Even the central conceit of the game, your creepy black spirit, has this great sense of unease and tension. It gets bigger and more menacing as time goes on, and the feeling that it was actually very terrible and that I was not going to be able to control it just looms over every interaction it forces you to have with it. It's menacing, it's probably dangerous, and you're basically its prisoner. I don't want to get my hopes up about a satisfying conclusion, but I really was intrigued by how it was playing out.
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wtf Daum it's 07:54UTC and it's supposed to close at 08:00UTC I wanted to see if I got my Master Baiter title yet
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I logged back in to check a few things and yah, my goblin worker finally finished his promotion test and went from level 10 green to level 1 blue.
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I don't know if I can trust a company that can't even keep to their own schedule
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Feb 22, 2016 09:00
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Alexander DeLarge posted:I don't know if I can trust a company that can't even keep to their own schedule yeah man the gamers gotta rise and take back the video games from the money grubbing developers 
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so i died to one of the scroll boss monsters and my scroll was gone but the lil ghost buddy just kept telling me to use it anyway. was this a bug or is there something else you've gotta do?
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Was the ghillie suit character-bound? Because if they drop the prices like I'm expecting them to given the amount of negative press, I want one to use for my Warrior now and my Blader/Ninja later.Sloppy Milkshake posted:so i died to one of the scroll boss monsters and my scroll was gone but the lil ghost buddy just kept telling me to use it anyway. was this a bug or is there something else you've gotta do?
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Alexander DeLarge posted:Was the ghillie suit character-bound? Because if they drop the prices like I'm expecting them to given the amount of negative press, I want one to use for my Warrior now and my Blader/Ninja later. i saw tons of people die actually, so there's probably a way to get it back. there's a lot of scroll summon bosses in the game too, so probably this has come up before but i didn't really bother to figure out what to do next since the beta was almost over anyway.
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kalstrams posted:Literal lack of useful evasion is later compensated by ample vampirism and general tankiness sufficient to ignore most things that aren't very well equipped players. Doesnt the Zerker get an evasion ability at level 10 that you can put skill points into?
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Xavier434 posted:And sells for a lot. This anime is real life. How the gently caress do you sell fish in this lovely game...
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SirBuddha posted:How the gently caress do you sell fish in this lovely game... Take it to a trade broker.
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gently caress warrior I can buy a Lu Bu costume when blader comes to NA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK-QWQFjLLE Since the awakening weapon for Blader is a Musindo, this is gonna be sweet.  or you can be a giant fish Alexander DeLarge fucked around with this message at 11:03 on Feb 22, 2016 |
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When I died to scroll quest miniboss on my wizard, I just resurrected and killed him. SirBuddha posted:Doesnt the Zerker get an evasion ability at level 10 that you can put skill points into?
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I ended up liking wizard a lot more than I thought I would (the key combinations aren't carpel tunnel inducing like some other classes). I'll echo the same sentiment a lot of others have. The game feels alive in a refreshing kind of way to the point where I don't really care of the PVP stuff pans out, there's enough of an RPG in here to get 30 bucks worth of fun for a month or two.
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Its probably me finally having enough of the "generic MMO" genre, but the second quest giver said to me (or at least thats what I read) "I am the village elder and a veteran of ye olden war, please collect 10 bear asses and then kill me because I can't take this animu flute music any longer".
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Sloppy Milkshake posted:so i died to one of the scroll boss monsters and my scroll was gone but the lil ghost buddy just kept telling me to use it anyway. was this a bug or is there something else you've gotta do? I think the first one of those said to cancel the quest and then start it again.
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Alexander DeLarge posted:Was the ghillie suit character-bound? Because if they drop the prices like I'm expecting them to given the amount of negative press, I want one to use for my Warrior now and my Blader/Ninja later. I noticed my ghillie suit was class specific. Sorry to break the bad news. :[
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So ignoring the meta stuff (shop) and end-game (lack of, PvP), I like what I've seen getting to L24 as a a valkyrie. It's definitely has enough to do that I think its worth playing through once as a single player game ignoring any MMO-aspects. Probably going to buy closer to launch (and hope they lower shop prices - I'd be happy if I can get a costume for 15, or just the main armor for <10). Combat is very good, with lots of apparent variety in how you combo things together (no idea what would be considered "viable"). I only discovered the joys of shield throw at the very end of the beta, for instance. That into the sword of judgment slam attack thing is amazing for wiping poo poo mobs, guard + jab for tougher stuff, and run around flailing when that doesn't work (drat elite leaping frog thing - though I was underleveled for that). I have no idea whats going on with the crafting stuff and how to get my lovely raw materials into something worth money. I had 200 pots of honey sitting around that I can't figure out what to do with...apparently I either need shitloads of milk for cookies or a higher cooking level for mead. And half a dozen iron ingots that I can't craft with b/c I don't know where to get crystals (for armor/weapons) and haven't even looked at wagon or boat crafting yet. I did make dozens of pitchers of beer though! The trade system looks to be an excellent mini-game (and I need to figure out what crafting goods creates trade goods to sell into that system) too. Finally, this was really noticeable, the graphics pop-in is freaking ridiculous, however once everything is loaded, it looks really good. Running mid-30s on a GTX 760 @ high.
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So I decided to straight up buy the game, I thought it was $50 but $30 im totally fine paying if it gets me even a few weeks of gameplay. Are there any details for Goon guilds when this goes live (Australian player).
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hobocrunch posted:So I decided to straight up buy the game, I thought it was $50 but $30 im totally fine paying if it gets me even a few weeks of gameplay. Are there any details for Goon guilds when this goes live (Australian player). Come release lewtt is making a guild on Eden server where the majority of us will play. (Probably)
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lurksion posted:So ignoring the meta stuff (shop) and end-game (lack of, PvP), I like what I've seen getting to L24 as a a valkyrie. It's definitely has enough to do that I think its worth playing through once as a single player game ignoring any MMO-aspects. Probably going to buy closer to launch (and hope they lower shop prices - I'd be happy if I can get a costume for 15, or just the main armor for <10). No pop-in all maxxed but what disturbing is distant players/npc's appear with no texture (all black). I played tamer during beta and there was like zero combo variety and the thing that really annoys me is the localization, everything has translation errors, the dialogues make no sense most of the time and the UI/skills is so full of mistakes that you have to guess what buttons will do based on their lovely translation. Also the voice acting is terrible but I guess points for the effort but this ruins the single player rpg vibe
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Sh4 posted:No pop-in all maxxed but what disturbing is distant players/npc's appear with no texture (all black). I played tamer during beta and there was like zero combo variety and the thing that really annoys me is the localization, everything has translation errors, the dialogues make no sense most of the time and the UI/skills is so full of mistakes that you have to guess what buttons will do based on their lovely translation. Also the voice acting is terrible but I guess points for the effort but this ruins the single player rpg vibe Welcome to china game territory 
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yeah? whats weird about that the enemy will be injured in a moment
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Sh4 posted:No pop-in all maxxed but what disturbing is distant players/npc's appear with no texture (all black).
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No, no, it's stably. You know, like the best way to punch is to stand punchly.
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Cool Alchemy Guide. Pretty good starting point especially if you are like me and know pretty much nothing about crafting yet. https://www.reddit.com/r/blackdesertonline/comments/470rzd/ambers_newbie_guide_to_alchemy_and_crafting_the/
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Third World Reggin posted:Welcome to china game territory Call me crazy but this game is kinda reminding me of some sort of bastard child of Age of Wushu's incomprehensibly complicated game systems and Archeage's drama/implosion potential. I love it.
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Xavier434 posted:Cool Alchemy Guide. Pretty good starting point especially if you are like me and know pretty much nothing about crafting yet. Putting a bed in said residence - Resting in a bed grants you 3 Energy per 3 minutes instead of the usual 1 per 3. Infinitely important, I owe Star my life for telling me about this. Keep in mind that these tools have durability points and will eventually break. wowzers
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