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There's a part of it that's also rooted in the fact that modern conservatives are operating so far outside the bounds of reality, that they have no real concept of what other people might find funny.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:It's also prone to being more of an attack than a joke; it's spiteful to the core. It's mean. Good comedy doesn't go on the attack. If you pay careful attention to the best comedy one of the core messages is "hey we're all stupid and suck so let's laugh about it." Conservatism starts from "conservatives are awesome and beyond criticism now let's tear down everybody else." That's not necessarily true. You can be incredibly mean to people, punching down, and still be really funny. The best satire cuts like a knife. This is an incredibly unkind joke, the targets are people who are generally looked down on and honestly have a lot of external factors working against them: Study: Many Americans Too Fat To Commit Suicide Also: Special Olympics T-Ball Stand Pitches Perfect Game Dr. Arbitrary fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Feb 23, 2016 |
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Wang_Tang posted:Is there a word (possibly foreign) that encapsulates the incredible rage, depression, frustration, confusion, and darkness that Matt Walsh is describing? Here's a pronunciation guide for it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H47ow4_Cmk0
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# ? Feb 23, 2016 17:47 |
Even conservatives don't find conservative comedy funny which is why they all get canceled or relegated to twitter.
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The reason things like the Daily Show and Colbert Report worked is that (despite what O'Reilly and others would have you believe) they weren't obviously partisan, they'd make jokes about anything funny or stupid whether it was the Dems or the GOP. I can't imagine a Fox "comedy" series laughing at Jeb's gun tweet or Trump's new feud with the Pope or Ben Carson getting lost on the way to his debate podium. Plus if you're going to go the whole way and have a live audience then either you need to record it in a conservative city (and there aren't many choices there, maybe Atlanta or St Louis?) or you have to screen your audience beforehand to make sure they're not just going to boo when you criticise BLM or blame Hillary for Bill's affairs or call Bernie an evil Marxist.
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Julio Cruz posted:. Plus if you're going to go the whole way and have a live audience then either you need to record it in a conservative city (and there aren't many choices there, maybe Atlanta or St Louis?) Branson, Missouri.
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# ? Feb 23, 2016 18:43 |
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Selachian posted:Branson, Missouri.
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# ? Feb 23, 2016 18:46 |
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Does anyone have that little anti-libertarian story that ends with "and then he got on his computer and made posts about how the government is horrible" handy? I'm mocking libertarians if Facebook and it would come in handy.
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# ? Feb 23, 2016 18:47 |
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Julio Cruz posted:The reason things like the Daily Show and Colbert Report worked is that (despite what O'Reilly and others would have you believe) they weren't obviously partisan, they'd make jokes about anything funny or stupid whether it was the Dems or the GOP. I can't imagine a Fox "comedy" series laughing at Jeb's gun tweet or Trump's new feud with the Pope or Ben Carson getting lost on the way to his debate podium. Plus if you're going to go the whole way and have a live audience then either you need to record it in a conservative city (and there aren't many choices there, maybe Atlanta or St Louis?) or you have to screen your audience beforehand to make sure they're not just going to boo when you criticise BLM or blame Hillary for Bill's affairs or call Bernie an evil Marxist. One thing I actually had to sit down and explain to multiple conservatives I've known is that comedians make fun of Republicans so much because it's just so damned easy. The party over the years has just increasingly become an insane fever dream parody of itself. You don't even need to make jokes anymore; you can basically just start reading the news and it's funny how insane the party has gotten.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:One thing I actually had to sit down and explain to multiple conservatives I've known is that comedians make fun of Republicans so much because it's just so damned easy. The party over the years has just increasingly become an insane fever dream parody of itself. You don't even need to make jokes anymore; you can basically just start reading the news and it's funny how insane the party has gotten. Consequently people don't believe me when I list the terrible stuff they do since it's so crazy. "There's no way someone would do that and if it did surely there would be some protection against it."
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# ? Feb 23, 2016 18:50 |
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"You can't fire someone just because they're gay, that HAS to be against the law!"
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# ? Feb 23, 2016 19:09 |
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Bast Relief posted:Both of my parents went to college and graduated with zero debt, not because it was free, but because it was super cheap. Now, they both worked and barely got by, but they actually owned a house at the time. So, 25 years old, both have degrees, own a house, sell it a few years later and upgrade. Regular middle class people, only a little support from family. One of the things that makes the military so attractive is this right here. When reaganomics came for the new deal, the army still had the pull to avoid the changes. So military folks still get housing, universal medical, a pension, free college, a housing loan, etc. It really is the best deal going for kids out of high school. Unless you've got a scholarship to a big name university, the military is the best option.
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computer parts posted:You clearly don't watch CBS. Actually, CBS's comedies aren't terribly conservative. BBT is as apolitical as comedy goes, and Mom is surprisingly thoughtful about addiction for a Chuck Lorre sitcom. You want a conservative comedy, look at Last Man Standing. Tim Allen plays an Ideal Republican Father.
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Yoshifan823 posted:You want a conservative comedy, look at Last Man Standing. Or spare yourself and let someone else look at it for you.
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# ? Feb 23, 2016 20:24 |
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This is being circulated unironically on facebook:quote:TRUMP'S FIRST DAY AS PRESIDENT
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# ? Feb 23, 2016 20:26 |
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https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3731521
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I hope whoever wrote that gets the help they need
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# ? Feb 23, 2016 20:33 |
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the heebie-gbs posted:This is being circulated unironically on facebook: EDIT: also, lol if the writer thinks a party depending on using voter ID laws to disenfranchise the poor is going to make biometric ID cards for all citizens
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# ? Feb 23, 2016 20:34 |
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While people without SINs are officially known as "probationary citizens", a person without a SIN is referred to colloquially as SINless, a term that usually denotes an illegal alien or criminal. "Probationary Citizens" have no legal rights and are not allowed to vote. When a criminal is caught and cannot be associated with a legal SIN, they are issued a temporary criminal SIN for processing and record keeping.
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# ? Feb 23, 2016 20:41 |
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That must be Poe's Law in action. It had to have been originally written as a parody. Not a single title given in that piece is an actual office in the federal government
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# ? Feb 23, 2016 21:01 |
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I enjoy the steady descent from repealing legislation you don't like to imprisoning your political opponents without trial before ending in pure ranting fantasy. You can practically see the spittle flying.
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# ? Feb 23, 2016 21:01 |
See if you can get people to post the one about Obama giving the guy rubella unironically next.
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# ? Feb 23, 2016 21:02 |
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I'm the Secretary of Business. I'm in charge of all the business.
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# ? Feb 23, 2016 21:04 |
Can I ask you about franchise opportunities?
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Bloodnose posted:I'm the Secretary of Business. I'm in charge of all the business. I read this in a Jack Donaghy voice
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# ? Feb 23, 2016 21:22 |
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Julio Cruz posted:The reason things like the Daily Show and Colbert Report worked is that (despite what O'Reilly and others would have you believe) they weren't obviously partisan, they'd make jokes about anything funny or stupid whether it was the Dems or the GOP. I can't imagine a Fox "comedy" series laughing at Jeb's gun tweet or Trump's new feud with the Pope or Ben Carson getting lost on the way to his debate podium. Plus if you're going to go the whole way and have a live audience then either you need to record it in a conservative city (and there aren't many choices there, maybe Atlanta or St Louis?) or you have to screen your audience beforehand to make sure they're not just going to boo when you criticise BLM or blame Hillary for Bill's affairs or call Bernie an evil Marxist. Only if you put a "whites only" sign at the entrance.
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Atlanta isn't even that conservative among the white population, assuming that you are talking about the city itself. All the real conservatives live in the surrounding towns and commute into the city so that they don't have to live in an urban environment.
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the heebie-gbs posted:This is being circulated unironically on facebook: It reads like a modern day Game of Thrones "Cercei takes the helm of Kings Landing." And an office for YOU, and an office for YOU, and one for YOU.
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# ? Feb 23, 2016 22:34 |
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Concealed carry totally works guys. http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2016/02/multiple_arrests_made_in_espla.html Expect to see vigorous masturbation in fwd:fwd:fwd land
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Ron Jeremy posted:Concealed carry totally works guys. This is almost a month old now, but a couple weeks ago I saw someone on my feed "give 3 examples" of concealed carry working that was links to 3 different articles about this story.
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Zerilan posted:This is almost a month old now, but a couple weeks ago I saw someone on my feed "give 3 examples" of concealed carry working that was links to 3 different articles about this story. Well... 4 people were shot, so 4 examples?
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Julio Cruz posted:The reason things like the Daily Show and Colbert Report worked is that (despite what O'Reilly and others would have you believe) they weren't obviously partisan, they'd make jokes about anything funny or stupid whether it was the Dems or the GOP. I can't imagine a Fox "comedy" series laughing at Jeb's gun tweet or Trump's new feud with the Pope or Ben Carson getting lost on the way to his debate podium. From what I can gather, Conservative comedy in the US isn't so much defined by what it targets, but more by what it doesn't. They'd not be too happy with it being described this way, but what the small audience for this stuff is looking for is a safe space where they know certain things won't be criticised. During the GWB presidency there was a gag on the Simpsons that involved Skinner looting a classroom for computers (or something along those lines), and Lisa's objection was met with 'Yeah, welcome to Dick Cheney's America'. The reaction among conservatives to that line was the full frothing meltdown, foot-through-the-TV, never watching this LIBERAL PROPAGANDA again kind of mania that we all relish, and all it took was one line in a show that had been incredibly gentle to Dubya's administration up to that point. That's the problem that conservative comedy faces: the audience is far too delicate and prone to being offended, so all you can deal in is old-style racism and wife beating jokes.
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# ? Feb 23, 2016 23:03 |
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The big difference between strawman conservatives and strawman liberals is that SM liberals get mocked by both sides while SM conservatives are currently leading in the GOP primaries.
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# ? Feb 24, 2016 00:10 |
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Fox, owned by noted liberal Rupert Murdoch.
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Agents are GO! posted:Does anyone have that little anti-libertarian story that ends with "and then he got on his computer and made posts about how the government is horrible" handy? I'm mocking libertarians if Facebook and it would come in handy. It's been a while since I busted this out: quote:This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the U.S. Department of Energy.
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Thank you!
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the heebie-gbs posted:This is being circulated unironically on facebook: Has that whole dead people voting thing ever happened anywhere that wasn't the Simpsons or is it just something people are about because their team didn't win
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Minghawk posted:From what I can gather, Conservative comedy in the US isn't so much defined by what it targets, but more by what it doesn't. They'd not be too happy with it being described this way, but what the small audience for this stuff is looking for is a safe space where they know certain things won't be criticised. Did the Simpsons ever have GWB in an episode? I always thought his absence was odd. Edit: besides the cardboard cutout in Two Bad Neighbors of course.
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MasterSlowPoke posted:Did the Simpsons ever have GWB in an episode? I always thought his absence was odd. He and JEB were referenced in the episode where HW moves across the street from them. Although in that episode I believe they called him "George Bush Jr."
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Slightly Toasted posted:Has that whole dead people voting thing ever happened anywhere that wasn't the Simpsons or is it just something people are about because their team didn't win It has happened, but I don't think anyone ever impersonates a dead person to go vote. Instead they just "find" a box of ballots in a cardboard box somewhere.
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