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Oiled and Ready posted:Everything Trump did as a businessman does not have a stigma like it would for a politician. Businessmen are supposed to be greedy profiteers and buy politicians and scheme. The fact that he "used to be establisment until 9 months ago, folks" is one of his prime ADVANTAGES and any time you show him being a ruthless businessman you're giving him ammo to say that's what he do to China for the shareholder (the American citizen) and also enables him to know the nefarious motives of career politicians. this is flatly false, and i don't understand how you can say this when we had the world's most vivid possible counterexample four years ago. literally, the exact thing you're describing as impossible happened, the exact way you're saying it couldn't possibly, to romney. we know this can and will work because we saw it work just the way i described last election. do you really not remember? romney said that his ruthlessness would be what we needed as a country, to turn us around and start making money again. voters emphatically rejected that argument. if trump tries to repeat it-- which i don't think he will, he's much savvier than romney-- he will be slaughtered.
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Nichael posted:I am sure there is, but is there precedent for naming a vice president before a nominee has been decided? I understand Gingrich and Santorum were considering doing exactly that four years ago but they didn't It's floated every cycle and happens in none. It's one of many Air Bud VP things, alongside sitting presidents dropping running mates (last happened with Ford, floated with every president seeking reelection since) and really outlandish VP picks, like the seriously pushed idea that the GOP ticket in 1980 should be Reagan/Ford, with a former U.S. President as VP to aid the "inexperienced" two term California governor Reagan. Reagan shot that idea down because it was the dumbest loving thing he could've possibly done and would've cut his balls off the entire presidency.
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Feb 24, 2016 01:59
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Lemming posted:This is kind of nonsense. Trump doesn't have a single policy beyond yelling "jobs!" and anybody who only pays attention at that level doesn't know what the gently caress TPP or NAFTA is so it doesn't matter. A Republican can't win without minority votes and Trump has explicitly been attacking minorities. They know "Ford and Carrier and Nabisco moved to Mexico, I'll bring them and their jobs back" though
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hillary blasts kasich over his "women in kitchens" comment and concludes with, indeed, it is CURRENT YEAR
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Lemming posted:Trump doesn't have a single policy beyond yelling "jobs!" untrue he also wants marijuana legalization left to the states, and would replace obamacare with the ability to buy insurance across state lines you see? substantive as hell.
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Lemming posted:This is kind of nonsense. Trump doesn't have a single policy beyond yelling "jobs!" and anybody who only pays attention at that level doesn't know what the gently caress TPP or NAFTA is so it doesn't matter. A Republican can't win without minority votes and Trump has explicitly been attacking minorities. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions
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Feb 24, 2016 02:01
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The old 2-5-2?-3-2-3-1-2 strat
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CubsWoo posted:They know "Ford and Carrier and Nabisco moved to Mexico, I'll bring them and their jobs back" though Everybody says they'll bring jobs back. The TV clown man does not have wide appeal outside of a plurality of Republicans. He needs to excite the base since his nonsense doesn't exactly reach across the aisle, and there's a huge contingent of Republicans who see him as a joke and an embarrassment.
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- mandatory HSA plans to increase cost and decrease benefits to every American - will bring jobs back to the US by curbing already too-high wages down to exploitative levels that American manufacturing has grown used to
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paranoid randroid posted:untrue Also, people will say Merry Christmas again
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Feb 24, 2016 02:04
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"I'm going to cut taxes and beat China, it's so simple" is not coherent policy
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That laugh is evil. Bush didn't respond like that after they kill Saddam, Obama didn't after Bin Laden (lol), Trump isn't laughing like that either. But this isn't a thread about Hillary, this is a thread about Jeb Bush. Please stay on topic.
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Feb 24, 2016 02:05
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Lemming posted:This is kind of nonsense. Trump doesn't have a single policy beyond yelling "jobs!" and anybody who only pays attention at that level doesn't know what the gently caress TPP or NAFTA is so it doesn't matter. A Republican can't win without minority votes and Trump has explicitly been attacking minorities. To the best of my knowledge he hasn't attacked The Blacks.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:this is flatly false, and i don't understand how you can say this when we had the world's most vivid possible counterexample four years ago. literally, the exact thing you're describing as impossible happened, the exact way you're saying it couldn't possibly, to romney. we know this can and will work because we saw it work just the way i described last election. do you really not remember? Romney was much more involved in politics, even outside serving as Governor, than Trump has been until this point and had the establishment stink upon him. Romney also engages on the financial wizard side of capitalism, instead of Building Actual Things, and actively took over corporations to extract as much money out of them before running them into the ground. At first blush they're similar but ehhh.
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FourLeaf posted:good loving god They don't want to win. That is the only conclusion I can draw.
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The Saurus posted:Tacit approval of violence you say? I don't agree with your conclusions, but you gave a more direct answer than I expected, and I can better see where you're coming from.
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TyrantWD posted:Hillary learned nothing since 2008, and Bernie's pull Hillary to the left has inadvertently turned into a campaign to destroy the only viable candidate the Democrats had. It's going to take Cruz or an act of god to keep a Republican from winning the general. Here's the thing- unless Trump implodes on his own for whatever reason, the ratfucking that will most likely be required for Rubio to win over him would utterly destroy the party (hah), the equivalent of what would have happened if Hillary stole 08 with super-delegates. The party may be down for that, but why in the holy gently caress would Rubio want to go down that road. He is too young to bet the bank on bad odds. Yes, Hillary isn't the greatest campaigner, the dems will have potential issues with the economy and international politics, she has some scandals which may or may not become a thing- but Rubio would be mortally wounded by the primary process and he drat well knows it. Trump has literally nothing to lose, the most likely scenario is an increasingly brutal campaign that destroys them both. Does he have skeletons in the closet (heh)? We are sure as gently caress going to find out! I think Rubio is smart enough to realize that there are much better hands to go all in on.
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Lemming posted:"I'm going to cut taxes and beat China, it's so simple" is not coherent policy We're going to get a lot more ICE agents and construction jobs, I'll tell you what
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Lemming posted:"I'm going to cut taxes and beat China, it's so simple" is not coherent policy It's so simple.
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InsanityIsCrazy posted:hillary blasts kasich over his "women in kitchens" comment and concludes with, indeed, it is CURRENT YEAR she used that line. yeah it works. but its so played out and ruined by the internet people will just poo poo on it.
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Jewel Repetition posted:To the best of my knowledge he hasn't attacked The Blacks. Indeed, in fact Trump's platform explicitly names black Americans as a group that has been left behind that would benefit: quote:Decades of disastrous trade deals and immigration policies have destroyed our middle class. Today, nearly 40% of black teenagers are unemployed. Nearly 30% of Hispanic teenagers are unemployed. For black Americans without high school diplomas, the bottom has fallen out: more than 70% were employed in 1960, compared to less than 40% in 2000. Across the economy, the percentage of adults in the labor force has collapsed to a level not experienced in generations. As CBS news wrote in a piece entitled “America’s incredible shrinking middle class”: “If the middle-class is the economic backbone of America, then the country is developing osteoporosis.”
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If Rubio trots out another third place victory speech, I'm going to start publishing my very own victory speeches to YouTube. In fact, I think we all should. It just doesn't have any meaning anymore. The fact that we are not running should not inhibit our right to declare victory in any state Republican primary.
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End of Life Guy posted:
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Lemming posted:This is kind of nonsense. Trump doesn't have a single policy beyond yelling "jobs!" and anybody who only pays attention at that level doesn't know what the gently caress TPP or NAFTA is so it doesn't matter. A Republican can't win without minority votes and Trump has explicitly been attacking minorities. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions well that's what i get for posting on my phone
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Guys do you think do you think Trump and Vince McMahon planned this out with the entire GOP years ago that this is the birth of political kayfabe, the new strat to draw new voters to politics do you think the medias falling for it too
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedAndrew/status/702297474195701762 Trump Steaks were actually made of pink slime and cooked well done before shipment, I don't know what to believe anymore
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedAndrew/status/702297474195701762 he isnt wrong. trump will certainly pivot, but that wont trick most moderates. and their is a dumps worth of poo poo on him
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Dapper_Swindler posted:he isnt wrong. trump will certainly pivot, but that wont trick most moderates. and their is a dumps worth of poo poo on him He supposedly does well with independents and moderates, though I don't know how true that is or what type of moderate it may refer to.
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Nichael posted:But as I said previously on this page, Trump's tacit approval of violence combined with his extremely dangerous anti-Muslim rhetoric should outweigh any of his (purely hypothetical) positives. I guess it's just shocking to me that people can either approve of such ideas, or dismiss them with a "nobody's perfect". They are so fundamentally discordant with how our society works, and they echo the beginnings of the worst crimes in humanity's history. If you don't have as strong an emotional reaction to those principles as I do, there's really not much else I can say because clearly we have extremely different values. i saw a clip of him saying "they arent human" referring to protesters at his rally and it honestly scared the gently caress out of me
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Jewel Repetition posted:He supposedly does well with independents and moderates, though I don't know how true that is or what type of moderate it may refer to. He does well with people who think Islam should be illegal, the proportion of which decreases as the group of people you're looking at gets more liberal
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In other news I've been checking Trump's twitter waiting for him to retweet the Rubio Benghazi photo, but I realized he's probably not going to waste it tonight in the middle of the Nevada election results. He'll probably pop it off tomorrow afternoon or something.
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Lemming posted:He does well with people who think Islam should be illegal, the proportion of which decreases as the group of people you're looking at gets more liberal Islam is like guns: yes it's protected by an amendment, but most people just want it to be heavily regulated, not completely illegal.
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Nichael posted:I don't agree with your conclusions, but you gave a more direct answer than I expected, and I can better see where you're coming from. That stuff is also the reason why I call Hillary-supporters who vehemently attack Trump SJWs btw. Because they don't care about each candidate's policies and history, they only care about rhetoric. Just like SJWs care more about policing language, triggers and safe spaces than actually affecting real progressive change in the world.
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Jewel Repetition posted:He supposedly does well with independents and moderates, though I don't know how true that is or what type of moderate it may refer to. Republican moderates maybe. Definitely not political independents or moderate democrats. http://www.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/188177/trump-image-among-democrats-independents-negative-gop-candidate.aspx lmao -27 among independents and -70 among democrats. And this is before they learn that Donald Trump raped his first wife.
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Jewel Repetition posted:He supposedly does well with independents and moderates, though I don't know how true that is or what type of moderate it may refer to. i am a moderate dem. and i dislike him.
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Jewel Repetition posted:He supposedly does well with independents and moderates, though I don't know how true that is or what type of moderate it may refer to. He'll definitely bring around the 'only 25 pigs blood bullets' moderates.
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