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quote:INDEPENDENT John Madigan says he has crossbench support as he calls for a Senate inquiry in the wake of the AFL’s Essendon supplements saga. I guess Madigan is worried about the group ticket changes and wants to drum up support from the StandByHird crowd.
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Solemn Sloth posted:There's a lot of work done on voting motivation in the US, and in general people turn up to general elections based more on whether they fear the other guy rather than getting out for their guy(Obama being a very notable exception). If that holds Trump loses against a vanilla candidate like Clinton. If Sanders manages to somehow beat the DNC and get the nomination then who the gently caress knows. Yeah, I'm of the opinion that Trump getting the nomination will galvanise the democratic voting base. But yeah if Sanders gets in who the gently caress knows since you can say 'socialist' in a sentence and apparently half of america shits itself in fear and terror
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Feb 24, 2016 07:33
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Feb 24, 2016 07:37
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hot carling academy posted:
They also gave $80,000 to the ALP, and would have probably tried to give to the greens if they accepted corporate donations. It is standard large company buying influence with everyone poo poo. found some peak national body to represent something and send a begging letter, See how much you get.
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Feb 24, 2016 07:38
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Amethyst posted:So uh, Trump won another primary. In national polls Clinton is up 44 to 43 against Trump and Sanders is up 50 to 40. So we just have to hope Sanders wins the dem nomination I guess? 
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Feb 24, 2016 07:43
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Does he not understand the meaning of homophobe? Does he think because Shorten used it earlier in the day that it's just some random insult you throw at people?
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Feb 24, 2016 07:50
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fiery_valkyrie posted:Does he not understand the meaning of homophobe? Does he think because Shorten used it earlier in the day that it's just some random insult you throw at people? It's a new word he learned today, so he wants to use it as much as possible.
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Feb 24, 2016 07:57
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Anidav posted:I predict ALP minority. Unless Australia is somehow worse than the Democratic Queensland Republic. Weren't you giving me poo poo earlier this month about toxxing for an ALP minority? Something about it being a fools bet to bet against Turnbull?
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Feb 24, 2016 07:57
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Trump eventually becoming the US President would be a good thing. Either the US economy collapses; or the US collapses into another civil war. Both seem pretty good to me.tithin posted:Weren't you giving me poo poo earlier this month about toxxing for an ALP minority? Anidav isn't very smart.
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Feb 24, 2016 08:00
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If the US economy collapses so does the global economy pretty sure it happened about 8 years ago?
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Feb 24, 2016 08:14
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bowmore posted:If the US economy collapses so does the global economy And look at the resultant surge of the international left and the downfall of capitalism!
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Feb 24, 2016 08:33
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https://www.facebook.com/SenatorLudlam/videos/10154010574564470/ What a slimy fuckhead. Just like any other politician.
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Feb 24, 2016 08:34
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I wonder if the Nats are eventually doomed.A Big Cannon posted:NSW Shooters and Fishers Party to change name to reflect 'evolving' focus on farmers
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Feb 24, 2016 08:47
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tithin posted:Weren't you giving me poo poo earlier this month about toxxing for an ALP minority? It was part one of a part two joke. I later posted a sportsbet for ALP Win.
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Feb 24, 2016 09:23
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Implying I am a fool hahaha.
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Feb 24, 2016 09:24
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On one hand I can't imagine anyone so blatently populist and gloatingly moronic as Trump becoming president but then I remember that Reagan got elected so
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Feb 24, 2016 09:32
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Must have missed that
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Feb 24, 2016 09:36
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Apparently there were serious shenanigans going on at that Republican primary (e.g. 'impartial' organisers wearing trump shirts, not checking off IDs so people voted multiple times, running out of ballots halfway through and telling people to leave even though replacements were coming) so the result will likely be contested.
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Feb 24, 2016 09:42
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http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/crown-prosecutor-margaret-cunneen-and-tow-truck-driver-ben-de-jonk-phone-recordings-revealed-20160224-gn2rkx.html Hope she goes down and the ICAC becomes vindicated.
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Feb 24, 2016 09:48
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Mithranderp posted:Apparently there were serious shenanigans going on at that Republican primary (e.g. 'impartial' organisers wearing trump shirts, not checking off IDs so people voted multiple times, running out of ballots halfway through and telling people to leave even though replacements were coming) so the result will likely be contested. Nah, xylo was saying that the results weren't even close, so any contest would be for 2/3/4th place, so contests wont be likely.
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Feb 24, 2016 10:08
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I don't know how exactly it would factor, but I know establishment Republicans really do not want Trump to be their representative. Don't expect them to let that happen. He's also polling lower than both Clinton and Sanders routinely, and while that could easily change Trump's also extremely hateable. I wouldn't say it's impossible that he could get the nomination and win the election, but the odds are against him more than they seem. Remember, he's not Reagan. Reagan could seem kind and charismatic; Trump can't not be a total fucknut.
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Feb 24, 2016 10:11
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Cleretic posted:I don't know how exactly it would factor, but I know establishment Republicans really do not want Trump to be their representative. Don't expect them to let that happen. He's also polling lower than both Clinton and Sanders routinely, and while that could easily change Trump's also extremely hateable. Counterpoint: We elected Abbott a man also incapable of not being a fucknut.
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Feb 24, 2016 10:17
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Counterpoint: We elected Abbott a man also incapable of not being a fucknut. Abbott could at least seem like he has a family, and had volumes lower than full. I mean, fair point, but we didn't really elect Abbott so much as vote against Labor's clusterfuck. The Democrats aren't anywhere near the mess that let Abbott skide through.
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Feb 24, 2016 10:23
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There's a good argument that the GOPe could tolerate Trump more than they could tolerate Cruz.
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Feb 24, 2016 10:30
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Amethyst posted:So uh, Trump won another primary. Nah, it's still pretty funny. The world is hosed anyway, we might as well laugh at some buffoonish billionaire running the largest economy on earth into the ground before we go out. Clinton's been around Washington for so long that she's probably up to her eyeballs in some scandal just waiting to be exposed, and when that happens Trump will cruise to victory. The good-ish news is that if he loses the GOP is gong to be hosed for decades because of the huge schism between the angry rednecks and evangelicals who support the Tea Party, and the establishment. Doctor Spaceman posted:There's a good argument that the GOPe could tolerate Trump more than they could tolerate Cruz. I haven't been following Cruz, what's he done to give them the shits more than Trump?
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Feb 24, 2016 11:06
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Jintor posted:Yeah, I'm of the opinion that Trump getting the nomination will galvanise the democratic voting base. But yeah if Sanders gets in who the gently caress knows since you can say 'socialist' in a sentence and apparently half of america shits itself in fear and terror It is the opposite. If Hillary get the nomination, there is a reasonable chance Trump could win. But it would likely be a win for Sanders if he got the nomination. If there is one person Republicans hate more than Obama, it is Hillary. She is embroiled in a number of "scandals" and voters view her as dishonest. Whereas Sanders polls surprisingly well in conservative states, and is a far less polarising politician.
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Feb 24, 2016 11:07
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Tokamak posted:It is the opposite. Apparently Sanders is quite pro-gun or something. Why do people always refer to her as 'Hillary' but all the male politicians by their surnames? People used to do it all the time with Gillard too.
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Feb 24, 2016 11:09
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And Clinton could literally be indicted during the general election for the email scandal.gay picnic defence posted:Apparently Sanders is quite pro-gun or something. Of course, disarming the working class is the last nail in the coffin of organised insurrectionary class struggle. 
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gay picnic defence posted:Clinton's been around Washington for so long that she's probably up to her eyeballs in some scandal just waiting to be exposed, and when that happens Trump will cruise to victory. I'm worried she won't even need a huge scandal to come up to sink her. She has insanely bad favourability ratings - you wouldn't know it based on the caucus results but she has net 13% unfavourability, 7% undecided - and that's before the GOP kick the propaganda machine into full gear. gay picnic defence posted:Why do people always refer to her as 'Hillary' but all the male politicians by their surnames? People used to do it all the time with Gillard too. Also it's not that Sanders is pro-gun, it's that his economic message resonates with voters both left and right. It's an insider truism that "Socialism" is the great devil in US politics but it's not holding up in practice.
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Feb 24, 2016 11:12
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gay picnic defence posted:Nah, it's still pretty funny. The world is hosed anyway, we might as well laugh at some buffoonish billionaire running the largest economy on earth into the ground before we go out. I'll give you a hint: it comes after Ted
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Feb 24, 2016 11:24
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gay picnic defence posted:Apparently Sanders is quite pro-gun or something. In my case, it is because her logo is a giant H and is what I associate with her campaign.
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Feb 24, 2016 11:34
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Lol. Trump could crush Hillary because he could make up lies about her past or even some truth and the public already has trust issues with her. A big mouth is literally super effective against a shadey Clinton and I don't think minority voters would come out en masse for her either so I think it's a closer match up than polling implies.
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Feb 24, 2016 11:41
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trump is so deeply unpopular amongst people who aren't his supporters there's basically zero chance he'd do well in the general. a trump presidency is not a thing you should worry about. the damage he does on his road to a concession speech should be pretty exciting though.
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Feb 24, 2016 12:38
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If a democrat wins they should make their first action nominating Obama to the (presumably) still vacant Supreme Court seat just to cause republicans to die of aneurysm en masse
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Feb 24, 2016 12:45
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sick trigger posted:trump is so deeply unpopular amongst people who aren't his supporters there's basically zero chance he'd do well in the general. a trump presidency is not a thing you should worry about. Clinton is pretty unpopular too, it would only take a poorly timed scandal (and it appears there are potentially plenty of those waiting in the wings) to derail her general election campaign and allow Trump to Bradbury his way to the Whitehouse.
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Feb 24, 2016 12:51
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the gently caress is #CoryBernardiWankPuffin trending?
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Feb 24, 2016 13:14
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gay picnic defence posted:I haven't been following Cruz, what's he done to give them the shits more than Trump? He has built up his power base by campaigning against other Republicans for being insufficiently conservative, to the point of ousting incumbents and torpedoing various bills so that he could grandstand. The establishment has (arguably) taken the view that it can survive losing with Trump, but validating Cruz' strategy would be worse for them in the long run. Plus everyone that meets him dislikes him on a personal level.
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Feb 24, 2016 13:38
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:#CoryBernardiWankPuffin same
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Ragingsheep posted:http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/crown-prosecutor-margaret-cunneen-and-tow-truck-driver-ben-de-jonk-phone-recordings-revealed-20160224-gn2rkx.html Agreed
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:the gently caress is #CoryBernardiWankPuffin trending? Mods name change?
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