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Shot:fknlo posted:For those not paying attention today, Trump will basically end freedom of the press by "opening up those libel laws" to sue news organizations and also let churches say whatever they want without risking their tax exempt status. Chaser: apparently, the CNN and MSNBC cables were cut at the Trump rally. edit: maybe I'm just a humorless gently caress but none of this is very funny 
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ufarn posted:loving rein it in, America that is amazing
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I expect that is what it looked like watching the Golden Dawn take over the Greek government for a while for people living outside the US.
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Feb 26, 2016 20:43
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Remember how conservatives weren't funny because you can't punch down and Jon Stewart was amazing because he was authentic and he called people out? This is it. Dennis Miller couldn't do it but Donald trump can. This is conservative comedy on the level of the daily show.
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Feb 26, 2016 20:45
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Radish posted:I expect that is what it looked like watching the Golden Dawn take over the Greek government for a while for people living outside the US. Greece doesn't have a nuclear arsenal capable of sterilizing the only proven habitat for life in the observable universe. This is way worse.
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Feb 26, 2016 20:47
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Radish posted:Who exactly is Jennifer Rubin? She was Christie's biggest supporter before he dropped out.
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Feb 26, 2016 20:48
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You think watching one of Trump's rallies is scary. Try going to one. They get intense. Lots of anger is thrown around, racism, fascism, authoritarian talk. People saying Mexicans, Muslims, blacks, liberals needed to be round up. They are not pleasant or happy places. His charged up base is more like an angry mob at those rallies than other political rallies.
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Feb 26, 2016 20:54
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ufarn posted:loving rein it in, America This is almost indistinguishable from those old pre-match hype interviews where one pro wrestler trashes the other. There's a reason Trump is in the WWE hall of fame, he's drat good at working a crowd that wants to see a fight and that skill is disturbingly valuable in the GOP primary. vyelkin posted:Can't wait for Donald Trump to appoint Supreme Court justices that say this is A-OK. He sure is biting the hand that feeds him considering the relationship between his poll numbers and the amount of free press coverage he gets every day. Doesn't matter though, journalists will keep feeding the fire that's threatening to burn them to cinders because that's how their bills get paid.
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Feb 26, 2016 20:56
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fknlo posted:For those not paying attention today, Trump will basically end freedom of the press by "opening up those libel laws" to sue news organizations and also let churches say whatever they want without risking their tax exempt status. Oh no, fewer native advertisements and brand partnerships being shoved down our throats, whatever will we do without the mainstream media.
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Feb 26, 2016 20:56
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Radbot posted:Oh no, fewer native advertisements and brand partnerships being shoved down our throats, whatever will we do without the mainstream media. I too hate press freedom.
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Feb 26, 2016 20:58
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Kilroy posted:What kind of gerrymandering? You can't make every seat totally safe and increase your seat count at the same time - it doesn't add up. It's one thing if gerrymandering has made every seat in the House either totally safe for a Republican or totally safe for a Democrat, but if that's the case then the seat count will mostly reflect the preference of voters anyway. If I can make a few overwhelmingly blue districts and give myself a (super)majority of red districts with even a +5 vote advantage that's plenty. You then start hitting hard on Voter ID, changing vote times, and a lot of other things and then suddenly your opponents can't get out to vote and state-wide races start tilting more in your favor and you hold the state government as the majority even with a minority of the total vote. I forget which state had that happen recently, NC maybe? The Dems had far more total votes but the GOP ended up with a solid majority of districts because of effective gerrymandering. BIll Kristol made a good joke, I'm pretty sure that's one of the signs of the apocalypse. Fojar38 posted:When Trump wins the nomination do you think that enough congressmen would poo poo their pants to approve an Obama moderate nominee if the alternative is gambling on Trump? No because a Trump pick would be so pro-business that even Roberts would be freaked out.
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Fojar38 posted:I too hate press freedom. I think we need to have a press that isn't all wire stories and ads before we can care about press freedom
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Feb 26, 2016 21:00
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ufarn posted:loving rein it in, America At what point in time do the actual power players behind the GOP decide enough is enough and it's time to put Trump down? Can they no longer control the monster they created? Is a brokered convention their last hope to get rid of Trump and his insane hate-filled base?
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Mr Hootington posted:You think watching one of Trump's rallies is scary. Try going to one. They get intense. Lots of anger is thrown around, racism, fascism, authoritarian talk. People saying Mexicans, Muslims, blacks, liberals needed to be round up. They are not pleasant or happy places. His charged up base is more like an angry mob at those rallies than other political rallies. And this is the point, this is the key. The GOP courted the insane/violent/reactionary wing of the population by winking and nudging and dogwhistling, and they did it successfully for half a century. Somebody forgot to tell them what happens when your angry supporters get angry at you. The Frankenstein's-monster canard could not be more appropriate. The Republican Party has been making GBS threads in their own dining room for decades, and the food finally got tired of the smell.
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Huge_Midget posted:At what point in time do the actual power players behind the GOP decide enough is enough and it's time to put Trump down? Lol they just tried that and his name was Jeb Bush.
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Feb 26, 2016 21:04
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Any hot takes from Cruz? Though both Trump and Cruz are scary, it is some schadenfreude that maybe the GOP really does hate Cruz that much.
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Feb 26, 2016 21:05
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Huge_Midget posted:Is a brokered convention their last hope to get rid of Trump and his insane hate-filled base?
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Feb 26, 2016 21:05
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What can the party leaders really do? Their base's love for Trump is like an out of control high school kid. If they ignore the problem it will continue, but if they try and repremand them then they'll rebel even harder. The establishment has lost all respect after years of not accomplishing their outrageous promises like making gays illegal, shipping all the non whites off to Some Other Country, and losing to Obama twice in a row despite saying they had it in the bag up until Romney had to write his concession speech on election night. This is the dumbest thing I've heard. Launching a third party run in order to gently caress over the candidate the people chose is almost certainly going to backfire spectacularly. The base barely trusts the establishment as it is and deliberately scuttling Trump isn't going to be forgiven anytime soon. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Feb 26, 2016 |
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MaxxBot posted:If I were one of her handlers I would be pissed, most pundits try to leave at least some small level of plausible deniability, she's just an all-in shameless shill. I don't think that helps the candidate she's shilling for it all because it's so obvious. What's she got to deny? As a strong woman, she was proud to be orgasming to Rubio during last night's debate.
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Could someone explain to me why Christie hates Rubio so much? I loving love it but I don't know the backstory.
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I cannot express enough right now how overwhelmingly relieved I am to be a white male with enough churchgoing background to pass as one of the nuttier variants of hyperzealot Christians. I cannot imagine how terrifying this poo poo must be to a poor minority.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Could someone explain to me why Christie hates Rubio so much? I loving love it but I don't know the backstory. Chris Christie has had a very good working relation with Donald Trump, and believes Rubio stole his 'moderate new face of the Republican party' lane to staying in the primary. While Chris Christie was having to eat poo poo and stand with Obama in order to receive the most funding for his state, Marco Rubio was playing hookie from the Senate to go "hiking on the Applaching trail," if you catch my drift.
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Mr Hootington posted:You think watching one of Trump's rallies is scary. Try going to one. They get intense. Lots of anger is thrown around, racism, fascism, authoritarian talk. People saying Mexicans, Muslims, blacks, liberals needed to be round up. They are not pleasant or happy places. His charged up base is more like an angry mob at those rallies than other political rallies. It seems almost certain that someone's going to get severely injured or killed at a Trump rally sooner or later. He's repeatedly called for violence against protesters, and now he's openly advocating suing the press purely to stop them from publishing negative stories about him. Not actual libelous or slanderous stories mind you, just negative stories. And he just advocated for a strong, politically active "Christian lobby" that fully erases any remaining separation between church and state. This is all pure authoritarian strongman rhetoric and the base can't get enough of it. At this point I'm just waiting for his fans to start wearing the same color shirt at his rallies.
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mdemone posted:And this is the point, this is the key. The GOP courted the insane/violent/reactionary wing of the population by winking and nudging and dogwhistling, and they did it successfully for half a century. Somebody forgot to tell them what happens when your angry supporters get angry at you. The Frankenstein's-monster canard could not be more appropriate. I have tried explaining it before. The anger at most republican gatherings was just the shake fist and bitch anger. The anger at the trump rallies feels vicious, internalized, and close to snapping into violence. It feels wrong
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Radish posted:What can the party leaders really do? Their base's love for Trump is like an out of control high school kid. If they ignore the problem it will continue, but if they try and repremand them then they'll rebel even harder. The establishment has lost all respect after years of not accomplishing their outrageous promises like making gays illegal, shipping all the non whites off to Some Other Country, and losing to Obama twice in a row despite saying they had it in the bag up until Romney had to write his concession speech on election night. They were pissed about the party not being able to follow through on all that poo poo so they are backing a guy that says he's going to build a 1500 mile long border wall for free? Are they all bitcoiners or something?
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Christie went Trump. Relevant: http://harpers.org/archive/1941/08/who-goes-nazi/quote:Mr. B has risen beyond his real abilities by virtue of health, good looks, and being a good mixer. He married for money and he has done lots of other things for money. His code is not his own; it is that of his class—no worse, no better, He fits easily into whatever pattern is successful. That is his sole measure of value—success. Nazism as a minority movement would not attract him. As a movement likely to attain power, it would. Bullfrog fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Feb 26, 2016 |
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Huge_Midget posted:At what point in time do the actual power players behind the GOP decide enough is enough and it's time to put Trump down? That would've been some time last year. Buy the ticket, take the ride.
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FAUXTON posted:They were pissed about the party not being able to follow through on all that poo poo so they are backing a guy that says he's going to build a 1500 mile long border wall for free? Trump's a straight talker who can get this stuff done!
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Huge_Midget posted:At what point in time do the actual power players behind the GOP decide enough is enough and it's time to put Trump down? November - December 2015. Oh, wait, they missed that? Oh, well. Trump was pulling over 40% in most state polls before the Christie nomination. He's beating Rubio in FL. He may be beating Cruz in TX. Now he's going to have a weekend of, once again, everyone talking about him, possibly followed by more endorsements as other mainstream politicians accept the inevitability and face to bloodshed. To stop Trump, Rubio or Cruz needs to beat him in half the states up from grabs. There are maybe four states total where Trump isn't leading. Barring suddenly dying, Trump is going to be the nominee now.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:It seems almost certain that someone's going to get severely injured or killed at a Trump rally sooner or later. He's repeatedly called for violence against protesters, and now he's openly advocating suing the press purely to stop them from publishing negative stories about him. Not actual libelous or slanderous stories mind you, just negative stories. And he just advocated for a strong, politically active "Christian lobby" that fully erases any remaining separation between church and state.
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FAUXTON posted:They were pissed about the party not being able to follow through on all that poo poo so they are backing a guy that says he's going to build a 1500 mile long border wall for free? They thought the Republicans could convince Obama to accept the repeal of Obamacare. They fear the national debt because they aren't allowed a household debt, so how can government debt????? They are not the brightest scientists in the tool shed.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:It seems almost certain that someone's going to get severely injured or killed at a Trump rally sooner or later. He's repeatedly called for violence against protesters, and now he's openly advocating suing the press purely to stop them from publishing negative stories about him. Not actual libelous or slanderous stories mind you, just negative stories. And he just advocated for a strong, politically active "Christian lobby" that fully erases any remaining separation between church and state. Yeah this is some of the reason why I think we are teetering on a cliff. Enough people are getting wiped into a very dangerous type of frothing anger that the right spark could make the situation explode. People here like to poo-poo it but people can only be pushed (or given the impression they are being pushed) enough times before they lash out.
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Eschers Basement posted:November - December 2015. Their only hope is for either Rubio or Cruz to drop out and combine forces behind one candidate. Cruz is too proud.
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Eschers Basement posted:They thought the Republicans could convince Obama to accept the repeal of Obamacare. They fear the national debt because they aren't allowed a household debt, so how can government debt????? They're not even the scientists in the tool shed, they're the tools in the shed. All hammers.
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:They already have the Nazi salute down pat 
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Mr Hootington posted:Yeah this is some of the reason why I think we are teetering on a cliff. Enough people are getting wiped into a very dangerous type of frothing anger that the right spark could make the situation explode. We already live in a country where mass shootings happen weekly. It seems the only way one of these shootings gets recognized in the media now is if it can be spun as "terrorism". I think all it would take is one politically motivated terrorist attack, one lone wolf.
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Mr Hootington posted:Yeah this is some of the reason why I think we are teetering on a cliff. Enough people are getting wiped into a very dangerous type of frothing anger that the right spark could make the situation explode. So the media is making you afraid and causing you to tune in more? That's very strange.
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Radish posted:I expect that is what it looked like watching the Golden Dawn take over the Greek government for a while for people living outside the US. Er, you realize they never actually managed that right?
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DemeaninDemon posted:Their only hope is for either Rubio or Cruz to drop out and combine forces behind one candidate. Cruz is too proud. Even if either dropped out and endorsed the other guy, it does not mean their support will follow.
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