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TheIllestVillain
Dec 27, 2011

Sal, Wyoming's not a country

really looking forward to their new EP, i was nuts about their debut LP when it first dropped

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Shakenbaker
Nov 14, 2005



Grimey Drawer

Henchman of Santa posted:

Voivod and Vektor (and Eight Bells and Predator) were sick last night. It's always a pleasure watching metal bands that clearly enjoy what they do.

Really is a sweet tour, no doubt. How was Melynda getting on with the busted leg?

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Shakenbaker posted:

Really is a sweet tour, no doubt. How was Melynda getting on with the busted leg?

Fine, I'm assuming she doesn't move around much normally anyway.

A TURGID FATSO
Jan 27, 2004

Here's to ya, JACKASS

Henchman of Santa posted:

Fine, I'm assuming she doesn't move around much normally anyway.

A similar thing happened to Barney of Napalm Death about 7 or 8 years ago I believe while touring Europe. There's some cool pictures of Barney on stage with a single crutch looking like the lovable mad man that he is when he performs.

Chromatic
Jan 21, 2005

You guys ready to hear a satanic song?
Does anyone have any djent to recommend? I admit I've heard of the genre but none of the top bands and since I'm old all the usual places I've asked either hadn't heard much themselves or just straight up hate the genre.

Just looking to see what it's about.

Opulent Ceremony
Feb 22, 2012

Gamma Nerd posted:

What, no mention of the new Gorguts song?

:frogsiren: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDyn5lkVNlo :frogsiren:

yes

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

Chromatic posted:

Does anyone have any djent to recommend? I admit I've heard of the genre but none of the top bands and since I'm old all the usual places I've asked either hadn't heard much themselves or just straight up hate the genre.

Just looking to see what it's about.

Just listen to Meshuggah and don't bother.

Ben Nerevarine
Apr 14, 2006

Chromatic posted:

Does anyone have any djent to recommend? I admit I've heard of the genre but none of the top bands and since I'm old all the usual places I've asked either hadn't heard much themselves or just straight up hate the genre.

Just looking to see what it's about.

I enjoyed Animals as Leaders and Chimp Spanner back in the day. Also a lot of people love TesseracT though personally I could never get into them.

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

Chromatic posted:

Does anyone have any djent to recommend? I admit I've heard of the genre but none of the top bands and since I'm old all the usual places I've asked either hadn't heard much themselves or just straight up hate the genre.

Just looking to see what it's about.
Periphery and Animals As Leaders are the two big Djent bands.

Varg
Jan 13, 2007

A friendly face.

I wouldn't even call AAL djent because I like them too much and the djenty poo poo is in the background instead of the main focus of the music.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Honestly past Meshuggah and Animals as Leaders I've heard exactly zero interesting or new ideas in the genre. Periphery if you like your djent served up like pop music. Misha has an alright style but the band is pretty irritating in general. Stick to those big two. They're both very talented and actually move forward instead of clinging to a genre like a meme.

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino
Deftones' last 2 albums (especially Diamond Eyes) have djenty aspects to them.

Misha Mansoor's Bulb stuff is ok too.

Meshuggah is, as stated, the best though, Catch 33 is great.

This was my first Meshuggah song and I still love it
https://youtu.be/9IiP-Vdx_F8

NonzeroCircle fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Feb 26, 2016

Ben Nerevarine
Apr 14, 2006
Oh there's also Vildhjarta, but I really can't speak to their quality at this point. I only remember them because of the album art.

kumba
Nov 8, 2003

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

enjoy the ride

Lipstick Apathy
There's also Misha & Mark from Periphery's instrumental side project Haunted Shores which is kinda cool if you're into that sort of thing.

Most djenty stuff tends to be closer to metalcore so you'd want to check out that thread. Bands like Volumes, Monuments, Continents, Intervals, Polyphia, Uneven Structure, TesseracT, etc

Tomarse
Mar 7, 2001

Grr



Chromatic posted:

Does anyone have any djent to recommend? I admit I've heard of the genre but none of the top bands and since I'm old all the usual places I've asked either hadn't heard much themselves or just straight up hate the genre.

Just looking to see what it's about.

There seems to be a lot of crossover between djenty stuff and other prog-metal/metal* sounding stuff now.

As already mentioned - Meshuggah, Periphery, Also try Tesseract, The Contortionist, fellsilent, After The Burial, Veil Of Maya, Hacktivist

Kilometers Davis posted:

Honestly past Meshuggah and Animals as Leaders I've heard exactly zero interesting or new ideas in the genre. Periphery if you like your djent served up like pop music. Misha has an alright style but the band is pretty irritating in general. Stick to those big two. They're both very talented and actually move forward instead of clinging to a genre like a meme.

You're a grumpy bastard arn't you! If you are classing AAL as within the 'genre' there are lots of other bands also doing interesting things.

Gamma Nerd
May 14, 2012
hacktivist loving suck and so do periphery and aal

listen to corelia, tesseract, erra, and uneven structure


Henchman of Santa posted:

Just listen to Meshuggah and don't bother.

see the thing 'bout this attitude is that the appeal of meshuggah is different than the appeal of djent
djent is way more melodic and dreamy, less claustrophobic and hypnotic. calling djent "a bunch of inferior meshuggah ripoffs" really misrepresents it - and i am not trying to defend djent here, it's why most "prog metalcore" these days is atrocious

Gamma Nerd
May 14, 2012
and they don't fully count but intronaut, kobong, neuma, panzerballett and sikth are mandatory listening

also check out cyclamen, it's like sikth + envy (the screamo band) and oddly works very well. shares members with the very underappreciated band arise in stability.

kumba
Nov 8, 2003

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

enjoy the ride

Lipstick Apathy
i dont understand how you can possibly say periphery sucks and in the same breath say listen to corelia since they may as well be two sides of the same coin

spencer even does vocals on one of corelia's tracks

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.
These bands all blend together so thoroughly in my head that I can never remember which ones I hate

Nordick
Sep 3, 2011

Yes.
I think I'm just gonna forsake metal entirely and live out the rest of my days blasting synthwave

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Nordick posted:

I think I'm just gonna forsake metal entirely and live out the rest of my days blasting synthwave

I got a bunch of joe pass records and I'm going to be entombed with them.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
how about instead of listening to bad bands like Meshuggah you listen to good stuff like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNdWJGVfrnU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhV3aGA9ytc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACYyqL2o19Q

kumba
Nov 8, 2003

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

enjoy the ride

Lipstick Apathy
why does all 80s metal sound like it was recorded in the same empty shipping container

Detective Thompson
Nov 9, 2007

Sammy Davis Jr. Jr. is also in repose.
Tombs put out one of the songs off their upcoming EP. Pretty good if you ask me.

https://tombsbklyn.bandcamp.com/

Gamma Nerd
May 14, 2012

Kumbamontu posted:

i dont understand how you can possibly say periphery sucks and in the same breath say listen to corelia since they may as well be two sides of the same coin

spencer even does vocals on one of corelia's tracks

generally better songwriting, more consistent quality. corelia have a lot of PTH influence too


MrBling posted:

how about instead of listening to bad bands like Meshuggah you listen to good stuff like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNdWJGVfrnU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhV3aGA9ytc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACYyqL2o19Q

lmao i should place bets on how soon a post like this will show up when djent is mentioned

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Kumbamontu posted:

why does all 80s metal sound like it was recorded in the same empty shipping container

Because shipping containers are expensive and they had to share.

DroneRiff
May 11, 2009

Gamma Nerd posted:

corelia have a lot of PTH influence too.

Oh this sounds like some wonderfully wanky poo poo, I'm checking that out.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Kumbamontu posted:

why does all 80s metal sound like it was recorded in the same empty shipping container

Scooped mids were super popular back then, and it showed on the albums. When thumping bass got popular in the 90's that disappeared.

Gamma Nerd
May 14, 2012
i thought pantera popularized the scooped guitar tone in the early 90s, though?

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


"scooped mids" was the only guitar tone for me when I was 15. Gotta have that thrash metal sound.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Gamma Nerd posted:

i thought pantera popularized the scooped guitar tone in the early 90s, though?

Well then explain how Ride the Lightning sounds like it was recorded in a shipping crate. :v:

Supposedly it was to help with palm muting or chugga chugga type stuff but as near as I can recall it was popular even outside that.

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...
What else is made to carry tens of thousands of pounds of metal?

The reason sounds have thickened up so much is that bands have more tracks to use in the studio. The sound gets thicker if you have two guitarists. Record each track twice, it gets even thicker. If you put two microphones at different angles on the speaker, that thickens it up. It isn't uncommon for a band to use 2-4 different amps/cabs and blend them all. All of this is further processed by being able to aggressively use compression on each track - engineers have gotten better at maximizing signal-to-noise level through their input compressors. More guitars and more layers are used to fill space now. Reverb used to be used to fill space when you only had 8 tracks or whatever. Rhythm tracks on anything modern sounding are generally four guitars, at least two microphones, and often multiple amps.

Drums have also mostly been replaced with samples of ideally equalized drums that punch through the mix at certain frequencies that the producer knows to cut from the rest of the mix.


But enough about modern production, I've been listening to Bombarder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnSnGk8QB3k

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

Vulture Culture posted:

These bands all blend together so thoroughly in my head that I can never remember which ones I hate
I never cared for Djent in the first place, mainly because I'm already not a fan of that type of metal to begin with and Djent goes past my comfort zone of the eccentric.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Kumbamontu posted:

why does all 80s metal sound like it was recorded in the same empty shipping container

That's called tape.

And everyone loved excessive reverb for some reason.

TollTheHounds
Mar 23, 2006

He died for your sins...
Well this is better than Djent, it's Skuggsjá!

Full album on March 11 on Season of Mist which is the best label ( seriously - every order I get they always throw in extra CD's, and their packaging is great ).

Probably not everyone's cup of tea, but it's like a slightly more metal Wardruna, which is to say traditional Norwegian Folk in theme and not just the occasional whistle and mouth harp, it is almost like "World Music", heavy on the chanting/hand drums/goat horns/weird archaic instruments - no blast beats.

Title Track - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r-clazKRrk
Kvervandi | 2016 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfphxiutN3Y
Vitkispá - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGk0NWxfcko

If you don't know anything about Skuggsjá it's a collaboration between a dude from Enslaved and a dude from Wardruna requested by the Norwegian government for a 200th anniversary festival:

Press Release posted:

"SKUGGSJÁ was conceived as a commissioned musical work written by Ivar Bjørnson and Einar Selvik. The arrangement was performed by ENSLAVED and WARDRUNA as a concert piece in commemoration of the 200th anniversary of the Norwegian constitution at the Eidsivablot festival in Eidsvoll, Norway on September 13th, 2014."

If you don't know anything about Wardruna, think of the Vikings (TV Show) soundtrack because they made it, at least Season 2 anyway:

Wikipedia posted:

Wardruna is a musical project based on Nordic spiritualism and the runes of the Elder Futhark. It was started by Einar "Kvitrafn" Selvik in 2003, along with Gaahl and Lindy Fay Hella.

The band began in 2003 and have since released two albums, each based on a set of runes.

There are plans to release at least one more disc, based on eight additional runes.[1] The planned third album will be titled Runaljod - Ragnarok.

In 2014, Kvitrafn announced on the group's official Facebook page that they would take part in composing the score for season 2 of Vikings along with Trevor Morris.[2]

TollTheHounds fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Feb 26, 2016

A TURGID FATSO
Jan 27, 2004

Here's to ya, JACKASS

comes along bort posted:

That's called tape.

And everyone loved excessive reverb for some reason.

because reverb is loving awesome. case in point:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN5g2K5Qo9M

Weaponized Cum
Aug 31, 2004


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A TURGID FATSO posted:

because reverb is loving awesome. case in point:

signed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASJHRV-Esh8

Fiendish Dr. Wu
Nov 11, 2010

You done fucked up now!
Uneven Structure - Februus

The best Djent

https://youtu.be/bbLz5lNcHi0

A TURGID FATSO
Jan 27, 2004

Here's to ya, JACKASS

Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:

Uneven Structure - Februus

The best Djent

https://youtu.be/bbLz5lNcHi0

FALSE! NOT ENOUGH REVERB!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s8jDnfKmq8

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Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Zodijackylite posted:

Drums have also mostly been replaced with samples of ideally equalized drums that punch through the mix at certain frequencies that the producer knows to cut from the rest of the mix.
Andy Sneap really popularized this in metal in the early '00s and gently caress him in the chest for that

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