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The Saurus posted:Berlin wall worked pretty well too.
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i like that the argument is "berlin wall worked" and it just kind of glosses over "berlin wall is a universally recognized symbol of fascism and oppression and its destruction is one of the most enduring images of freedom of the 20th century"
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Feb 26, 2016 23:23
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Craptacular! posted:So you've basically know nothing about the refugees or what they actually go through to get here. We were talking about Europe, retard.
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Feb 26, 2016 23:23
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:i like that the argument is "berlin wall worked" and it just kind of glosses over "berlin wall is a universally recognized symbol of fascism and oppression and its destruction is one of the most enduring images of freedom of the 20th century" *wifes country hosed up by americans to fight communism* *believes american propaganda about east germany being "fascist"* Go and post that in the PSL thread and get yourself educated
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Feb 26, 2016 23:28
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We should give citizenship to anyone who crosses the border and learns to write code on the computer.
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Feb 26, 2016 23:29
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The Saurus posted:We were talking about Europe, retard. Britain is an island on one of the far west corners of Europe.
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Feb 26, 2016 23:30
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Trump should suggest forced labor camps for illegals. The prospect of 10 years hard labor would cause some to think twice about coming to america and risk getting caught.
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Feb 26, 2016 23:31
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The Saurus posted:Berlin wall worked pretty well too. 
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Feb 26, 2016 23:31
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We really should just round up all the illegals and anyone we suspect of being an illegal and put them in a camp and put a serial number on their skin and when it starts to get overcrowded well let me tell you it's some nasty business but it's gotta be done to keep America safe.
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Feb 26, 2016 23:32
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The Saurus posted:*wifes country hosed up by americans to fight communism* i know we've had our disagreements but i hope you would not stoop so low as to recommend someone post in the PSL thread
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ScrubLeague posted:We really should just round up all the illegals and anyone we suspect of being an illegal and put them in a camp and put a serial number on their skin and when it starts to get overcrowded well let me tell you it's some nasty business but it's gotta be done to keep America safe. also the muslims and commie SJWs
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ScrubLeague posted:We really should just round up all the illegals and anyone we suspect of being an illegal and put them in a camp and put a serial number on their skin and when it starts to get overcrowded well let me tell you it's some nasty business but it's gotta be done to keep America safe. Trump should select Godwin as VP
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Would expanding the H1B visa program be good for the economy?
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Feb 26, 2016 23:37
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T r a v i s posted:Would expanding the H1B visa program be good for the economy? do you think that we libs love or hate h1bs?
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Feb 26, 2016 23:43
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Lyapunov Unstable posted:unionize Whoa there buddy we're not transforming the USA into a socialist state overnight
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Feb 26, 2016 23:44
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Lyapunov Unstable posted:actually IT should unionize and the H1B regulations should yield to that If IT did unionize, do you think they would want more H1Bs, or less? Also, do you think workers on H1B visas are good for the economy? Jared Kush has issued a correction as of 23:50 on Feb 26, 2016 |
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What if it turns out the plan that most benefits the working class also inadvertently benefits illegal immigrants Is that still worse than the plan where all the immigrants are deported for potentially marginal benefits to the working class
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Feb 26, 2016 23:48
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T r a v i s posted:If IT did unionize, do you think they would want more H1Bs, or less? Also, do you think workers on H1B visas are good for the economy? I understand that this isn't the one-liner policy issue that you'd like to stick it to the libs, but them's the tough breaks about reality, kid.
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Feb 26, 2016 23:59
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The Saurus posted:I don't believe what neoconservative shill thinktanks have to say. I'm also not interested in nebulous "benefits to the economy". I want proof that it's going to help the working and middle class, "THE ECONOMY" is just code for the rich fucks at the the top, that's where the trillions are going to go. I like that, when presented with evidence, you just assume it's a trick. I mean, you don't have any actual sources to the contrary outside of stuff shouted at Trump rallies, but it just can't be true that getting rid of all the illegals could actually be bad for the country because your gut feeling says otherwise. I'm sorry that you're having trouble finding a job but other poor immigrants, illegal or otherwise, aren't the ones loving you.
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Feb 27, 2016 00:06
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Lyapunov Unstable posted:Do you know what an H1B is? Less indentured servitude is good for everybody. There can be other visas that skilled immigrants can use, and those should be provided for and expanded as needed, and those immigrants paid (under employer and union penalty, rigorously enforced) competitive salaries, removing the negative wage pressure from the H1B program. I see. If IT workers unionized, do you think they would want more H1Bs, or less? Also, do you think workers on H1B visas are good for the economy?
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Wolfsheim posted:I like that, when presented with evidence, you just assume it's a trick. I mean, you don't have any actual sources to the contrary outside of stuff shouted at Sanders rallies, but it just can't be true that getting rid of all the rich could actually be bad for the country because your gut feeling says otherwise. :bernget:
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Feb 27, 2016 00:32
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The Saurus posted:Berlin wall worked pretty well too. 20% of your fellow Trump supporters literally believe that the Emancipation Proclamation was a bad idea. Your brand is beyond toxic. quote:If you actually thought the American people cared about coddling illegals, you wouldn't have to try so hard to link it to race to make us look bad. The American people, by and large, don't give a poo poo about illegal immigrants. Want to know why? Because net immigration to and from Mexico is zero now.
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Laphroaig posted::bernget: The difference of course being that no one other than goons ironically calling for full communism now are actually calling for killing all rich people. But yeah, other than that, "tax the super-wealthy who crashed the entire economy eight years ago slightly more" is totally the same as "deport all illegals." Really keen observation there, maybe the truth is in the middle.
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if I quote a PPP poll saying 20% of bernie supporters think Stalin was necessary for the industrialization of Russia, will you agree with me then? also lol 'ironically' ahahaha
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Craptacular! posted:Britain is an island on one of the far west corners of Europe. Yes, your links were about North America, that's a bit too far west Ask Germany how much rapefugee vetting they did. Ask the head of Europol
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Laphroaig posted:if I quote a PPP poll saying 20% of bernie supporters think Stalin was necessary for the industrialization of Russia, will you agree with me then?
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Personally I am pretty convinced Trump will find a good explanation for not building a wall and will placate the masses with just giving Joe Arpaio more airtime and maybe some forced labour stuff for a while. He is the Great Communicate Part Deux, who will always be able to explain that he did not in fact trade weapons for hostages though the evidence does not
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Jacobin posted:I am pretty convinced Trump will find a good explanation for not building a wall Everyone in Washington hates him and will vote to impeach at the earliest opportunity. Trump's presidency would be almost as ineffective as Sanders's.
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If Trump won the presidency and the establishment tried to impeach him it'd probably cause an actual revolution or at least political violence.
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Laphroaig posted:if I quote a PPP poll saying 20% of bernie supporters think Stalin was necessary for the industrialization of Russia, will you agree with me then? I have a hard time believing you can find a poll that says Bernie supporters are anything other than young idealists who like the sound of free college, but if you have one go ahead. You also can't actually find clips of Bernie actually saying "kill all bankers" yet there seems to exist an endless amount of Trump saying he'll deport all the Mexicans and ban all Muslims. "Both sides are the same" doesn't really work when one side is an orange clown man deliberately saying the most incrndiary, outlandish things possible.
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Lyapunov Unstable posted:Does PPP have a poll that literally says that? Or is this a case of the facts having a liberal bias? Here you go http://www.lynnvavreck.com/Site/The_Upshot_files/UPSHOT_Crosstabs.pdf http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/02/26/trump-racist-poll-slavery-yougov-economist-upshot-column/80986474/ quote:According to the poll, backers of Clinton and Sanders, white Democrats, are more likely to disapprove of the Civil-War executive order than supporters of Hispanic Republican Marco Rubio. One in 10 Sanders supporters disapproves of Lincoln’s executive order. Rubio supporters are less likely to disapprove of or have doubts about the landmark civil rights decision than African-Americans themselves. Sorry, its 10% of Sanders supporters, not 20%, but we can clearly see that Bernie Sanders is very racist; however there is a separate thread for that. Clinton supporters, of course, see no problem with rounding people up and putting them in camps. But please continue to quote YouGov and PPP at people like they matter or we care btw: ""38% of Florida voters think it's possible that Ted Cruz is the Zodiac Killer," PPP's Tom Jensen writes. "10% say he for sure is, and another 28% say that they are just not sure. " Well there you go, 38% of Florida voters think its possible Ted Cruz is the Zodiac Killer, 20% of Trump and 10% of Sanders supporters think the Emancipation Proclamation was a mistake, and 39% of Clinton backers are fine with rounding people up and putting them in camps.
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polls show at least 25% of voters balls-to-the-wall dense
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The Saurus posted:If Trump won the presidency and the establishment tried to impeach him it'd probably cause an actual revolution or at least political violence. You greatly overestimate the public's love for Trump. Most of those who are voting for him are doing so for entertainment's sake. If he were elected and then impeached, the mob would be chanting for him to be burned at stake, also as a form of entertainment. Ahahaha, you think this means Trump has more than a handful of Latino supporters, even though the polls show you're extremely wrong.
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Feb 27, 2016 03:02
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i can't wait till you are hauled off to mexico, weeping
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Majorian posted:You greatly overestimate the public's love for Trump. Most of those who are voting for him are doing so for entertainment's sake. If he were elected and then impeached, the mob would be chanting for him to be burned at stake, also as a form of entertainment. You are an absolutely delusional lunatic.
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Majorian posted:You greatly overestimate the public's love for Trump. Most of those who are voting for him are doing so for entertainment's sake. If he were elected and then impeached, the mob would be chanting for him to be burned at stake, also as a form of entertainment.  You really have no idea how hard the working class have been hosed by neoliberalism in this country, do you? And how exciting the prospect of a change in policy is?How often do you leave your ivory tower to help the noble illegals with their vision care? quote:Ahahaha, you think this means Trump has more than a handful of Latino supporters, even though the polls show you're extremely wrong. More than any other Republican candidate.
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Top Bunk Wanker posted:You are an absolutely delusional lunatic. No, see, that's you. You're the one who believes Trump can actually get elected.  The Saurus posted:
I actually do. The difference is, unlike you, I understand that it's not the fault of Latin American migrant workers. And the fact that you're literally backing an openly racist (probably ex-) billionaire who outsourced a lot of American jobs shows how completely deranged you are. You reward those who have hosed you without lube and then whine about those who haven't done you an ounce of harm.
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