SATURDAY FEB 27, 7pm ET DEM SC PRIMARY: Turn left Hillary, noooooooooooooo

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Who will win the SC primary?
	Hillary Clinton
	Bernie Sanders
	Martin O'Malley
	Willie Wilson
	Baby Hitler

fknlo: Jul 6, 2009; Fun Shoe

Mitt Romney posted:

From that ABC link: Youth vote down to 10-11%

This is because only old people vote early which is why the exit polls aren't at all trustworthy. r/s4p

# ? Feb 27, 2016 23:43

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# ? Jun 2, 2024 03:26

GOOD TIMES ON METH: Mar 17, 2006; Fun Shoe

I get being happy your candidate wins but the glee at lack of youth voting in a Dem primary is pretty weird

# ? Feb 27, 2016 23:43

Mitt Romney: Nov 9, 2005; dumb and bad

oystertoadfish posted:

if this low youth turnout story persists as we get more data, i wonder how much of that's because of staying home and how much is from choosing to vote in the gop primary

I suspect as more exit poll data comes in these numbers will move back towards normal but who knows.

# ? Feb 27, 2016 23:43

mike12345: Jul 14, 2008; "Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries."

I don't care which candidate wins, as long as we don't forget that we love and respect each other.

# ? Feb 27, 2016 23:45

Irony Be My Shield: Jul 29, 2012

Goetta posted:

I get being happy your candidate wins but the glee at lack of youth voting in a Dem primary is pretty weird

And at hemorrhaging votes to Donald J Trump.

# ? Feb 27, 2016 23:47

The IronMonkey: Aug 5, 2005

Goetta posted:

I get being happy your candidate wins but the glee at lack of youth voting in a Dem primary is pretty weird

Hillary voters seem more interested in attacking other democrats than actually getting something done.

It'll make the Worst Thread entertaining during the general when they wonder why nobody supports their candidate.

# ? Feb 27, 2016 23:47

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The Drowned Dog. posted:

Early onset dementia or Alzheimer's.(not trying to make a joke here or anything. I really think he has something going on neurologically)

# ? Feb 27, 2016 23:50

fknlo: Jul 6, 2009; Fun Shoe

The IronMonkey posted:

Hillary voters seem more interested in attacking other democrats than actually getting something done.

It'll make the Worst Thread entertaining during the general when they wonder why nobody supports their candidate.

Goetta posted:

I get being happy your candidate wins but the glee at lack of youth voting in a Dem primary is pretty weird

I wouldn't call Hillary my candidate, I just can't stand a very large number of Sanders' supporters so it's fun to gently caress with them. Lower youth turnout is terrible, especially when one of the candidates is supposed to be mobilizing them but they aren't showing up.

# ? Feb 27, 2016 23:51

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

Or, this indicates that the supposed young person revolution hasn't happened and Sanders isn't motivating the base any more than normal.

Low turnout in primaries means all sorts of things, but it doesn't correlate with low turnout in the general election. If youth votes are bad now, it doesn't mean they'll still be bad in November, it just means that Sanders message is falling flat in parts of the country.

# ? Feb 27, 2016 23:51

smg77: Apr 27, 2007

Goetta posted:

I get being happy your candidate wins but the glee at lack of youth voting in a Dem primary is pretty weird

Lack of youth voting in Dem primaries is what usually happens. The only glee I feel is watching the r/s4p morons melt down over it.

# ? Feb 27, 2016 23:52

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

oystertoadfish do you have the normal numbers for 18-30 turnout in the last few contested dem primaries?

# ? Feb 27, 2016 23:53

The IronMonkey: Aug 5, 2005

fknlo posted:

I wouldn't call Hillary my candidate, I just can't stand a very large number of Sanders' supporters so it's fun to gently caress with them. Lower youth turnout is terrible, especially when one of the candidates is supposed to be mobilizing them but they aren't showing up.

"I vote for badly defined spite! Wait, why does nobody vote for my candidate?"

# ? Feb 27, 2016 23:55

Concerned Citizen: Jul 22, 2007; Ramrod XTreme

In 2008, the South Carolina 18-29 demographic was 14%. So it's down slightly.

# ? Feb 27, 2016 23:55

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

Concerned Citizen posted:

In 2008, the South Carolina 18-29 demographic was 14%. So it's down slightly.

I assumed 2008 would be higher. I wonder where this falls in line with 2004 and 2000.

# ? Feb 27, 2016 23:56

Mitt Romney: Nov 9, 2005; dumb and bad

Concerned Citizen posted:

In 2008, the South Carolina 18-29 demographic was 14%. So it's down slightly.

IF the exit polls are accurate (they probably aren't) then it's possible Clinton approaches a 40% margin.

# ? Feb 27, 2016 23:56

Concerned Citizen: Jul 22, 2007; Ramrod XTreme

Mitt Romney posted:

IF the exit polls are accurate (they probably aren't) then it's possible Clinton approaches a 40% margin.

It's not improbable. If voters on racial lines voted exactly as they did in NV, we're looking at a 26 point margin. But these voters aren't exactly like NV - they are much friendlier to Clinton.

# ? Feb 27, 2016 23:57

Concerned Citizen: Jul 22, 2007; Ramrod XTreme

Schnorkles posted:

I assumed 2008 would be higher. I wonder where this falls in line with 2004 and 2000.

2004 was 9% 18-29.

# ? Feb 27, 2016 23:58

Oiled and Ready: Oct 11, 2004; He wished it could be as respectable and orthodox as spying. But somehow in his hands the traditional tools and attitudes were always employed toward mean ends: cloak for a laundry sack, dagger to peel potatoes, dossiers to fill up dead Sunday afternoons ...

Mitt Romney posted:

IF the exit polls are accurate (they probably aren't) then it's possible Clinton approaches a 40% margin.

Please, please I want the general election to essentially start on Tuesday

# ? Feb 27, 2016 23:58

fknlo: Jul 6, 2009; Fun Shoe

The IronMonkey posted:

"I vote for badly defined spite! Wait, why does nobody vote for my candidate?"

I plan on voting for Bernie in the primary but have known from the start I'd be voting for Hillary in the general, so, no. I just find a huge number of his supporters to be more insufferable than Ron Paul supporters.

It's weird how the candidate nobody supports or is voting for is going to win the primary though.

# ? Feb 27, 2016 23:59

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

Concerned Citizen posted:

2004 was 9% 18-29.

So 11-12% isn't that bad.

Youth turnout in primaries is always super low, we just have the 2008 outlier clouding our judgment typically.

# ? Feb 28, 2016 00:00

punk rebel ecks: Dec 11, 2010; A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

fknlo posted:

I plan on voting for Bernie in the primary but have known from the start I'd be voting for Hillary in the general, so, no. I just find a huge number of his supporters to be more insufferable than Ron Paul supporters.

It's weird how the candidate nobody supports or is voting for is going to win the primary though.

Browsing on here I don't see how his supporters are any worse than Hillary supporters. There are just more of them.

punk rebel ecks has issued a correction as of 00:07 on Feb 28, 2016

# ? Feb 28, 2016 00:00

Concerned Citizen: Jul 22, 2007; Ramrod XTreme

Schnorkles posted:

So 11-12% isn't that bad.

Youth turnout in primaries is always super low, we just have the 2008 outlier clouding our judgment typically.

It's not bad for SC, but certainly if you're the candidate relying on a surge of young voters you can't be too happy with the result.

# ? Feb 28, 2016 00:03

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

Concerned Citizen posted:

It's not bad for SC, but certainly if you're the candidate relying on a surge of young voters you can't be too happy with the result.

eeyup.

Gonna be an ugly night for the Bern.

# ? Feb 28, 2016 00:04

Shimrra Jamaane: Aug 10, 2007; Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

It certainly doesn't help young voter turnout that everyone and their mother knows that the results won't be within 25 points. I'll be honest, if I was a Dem in SC I wouldn't have voted today. Yes I know, I'm part of the problem.

# ? Feb 28, 2016 00:06

oystertoadfish: Jun 17, 2003

Schnorkles posted:

oystertoadfish do you have the normal numbers for 18-30 turnout in the last few contested dem primaries?

the people who ended up answering your question are better for this stuff than i am

i guess all we can conclude is that there isn't a surge in youth voting over historical norms so large that it shows up incontrovertibly in high-margin of error preliminary exit polls

# ? Feb 28, 2016 00:06

punk rebel ecks: Dec 11, 2010; A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

Has youth turnout gone up in any of the four primary states?

# ? Feb 28, 2016 00:07

smg77: Apr 27, 2007

punk rebel ecks posted:

Has youth turnout gone up in any of the four primary states?

Not in any way that demonstrates that Bernie's political revolution is real.

# ? Feb 28, 2016 00:12

Shimrra Jamaane: Aug 10, 2007; Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Youth will never care about primaries and mid-term elections.

# ? Feb 28, 2016 00:15

punk rebel ecks: Dec 11, 2010; A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

smg77 posted:

Not in any way that demonstrates that Bernie's political revolution is real.

I see.

Just curious, what would you say the young voters would need to be able to go to the polls?

# ? Feb 28, 2016 00:15

smg77: Apr 27, 2007

punk rebel ecks posted:

I see.

Just curious, what would you say the young voters would need to be able to go to the polls?

No idea. I've been involved in Democratic Party politics and campaigns since the 90s and even in 2008 with a once in a generation candidate the vast majority of people under 30 just don't give enough of a poo poo to go vote.

# ? Feb 28, 2016 00:21

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

smg77 posted:

No idea. I've been involved in Democratic Party politics and campaigns since the 90s and even in 2008 with a once in a generation candidate the vast majority of people under 30 just don't give enough of a poo poo to go vote.

Also primaries are primaries. You can incite people to actually go vote in a general, but most dems and young dems hear bernie and hillary and go "Oh, yeah, they're both pretty cool I guess."

I have no idea what young republicans feel this year, possibly some amalgam of 'TRUMP! *click*' and something else.

# ? Feb 28, 2016 00:24

Mitt Romney: Nov 9, 2005; dumb and bad

Silver thinking near 40% is a possibility:

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/703721435353710592

# ? Feb 28, 2016 00:24

UV_Catastrophe: Dec 29, 2008; Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are,

"It might have been."; Pillbug

Younger generations that don't vote inevitably grow up to be older generations that vote religiously. Bernie just neglected to mention that his political revolution will need another decade or two to cook.

Hopefully, the country is still is one piece by the time the boomers finally get pushed out of political power.

# ? Feb 28, 2016 00:25

GrimGypsy: Mar 27, 2007

Guys I'm sad about tonight; cheer me up?

# ? Feb 28, 2016 00:28

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

GrimGypsy posted:

Guys I'm sad about tonight; cheer me up?

Sanders has just as good a chance of winning the democratic primary after tonight as he did before tonight!

# ? Feb 28, 2016 00:29

logikv9: Mar 5, 2009; Ham Wrangler

GrimGypsy posted:

Guys I'm sad about tonight; cheer me up?

A man with a combover teamed up with a obese governor to beat up a Floridian child with a dehydration problem

# ? Feb 28, 2016 00:30

UV_Catastrophe: Dec 29, 2008; Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are,

"It might have been."; Pillbug

GrimGypsy posted:

Guys I'm sad about tonight; cheer me up?

# ? Feb 28, 2016 00:32

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

GrimGypsy posted:

Guys I'm sad about tonight; cheer me up?

Bernie Sander's legacy in politics could still be getting left wing local level politicians inspired and actually starting a real revolution through bottom up strategies like near every other political revolution.

# ? Feb 28, 2016 00:32

sexpig by night: Sep 8, 2011; by Azathoth

Basically he needs his audience to take from this 'well poo poo maybe I can change things in MY home at least' and not 'well poo poo, gently caress it all then'.

# ? Feb 28, 2016 00:32

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# ? Jun 2, 2024 03:26

Schnorkles: Apr 30, 2015; It's a little bit juvenile, but it's simple and it's timeless.

We let it be known that Schnorkles, for a snack, eats tiny pieces of shit.

You're picturing it and you're talking about it. That's a win in my book.

Tatum Girlparts posted:

Basically he needs his audience to take from this 'well poo poo maybe I can change things in MY home at least' and not 'well poo poo, gently caress it all then'.

man I have some bad news for you

# ? Feb 28, 2016 00:33

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