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Bad Caller posted:Dividing politics on racial voting blocs is basically the easiest way for the USA to stay racially charged forever. The youth white vote swings left and dividing politics on racial lines is not good in the long run for our country. Democrats should still care about the white vote as well. Democrats usually win around 40% or so of the white vote. Considering they don't build their rhetoric around coddling the poor white man who is just being unfairly trampled under the boot of minorities and women like the Republicans do, that's not bad. It's hardly ignoring the demographic and puts them on the same emphasis as other demographics.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:The DNC does care about the white vote, they just don't make the white vote the cornerstone of their operations like the RNC does, because they don't need to. There's no party anymore that actually benefits the white working class which is sad since I live in a town that's basically meth city because of trade deals making jobs leave.
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I really like The Young Turks show but I'm kind of laughing at their meltdown on the air right now.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Does SC require you to get a minimum % to get delegates at all? If so...what is it? 15%
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Bad Caller posted:There's no party anymore that actually benefits the white working class which is sad since I live in a town that's basically meth city because of trade deals making jobs leave. You can decide how genuine she was yourself but in the last debate I think Clinton did a very good job spinning a kinda lame 'but what about the whites' question into genuinely talking about coal towns dying and such and other things that are destroying poor/working class white communities.
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Feb 28, 2016 01:18
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I really like The Young Turks show but I'm kind of laughing at their meltdown on the air right now.
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The Drowned Dog. posted:Early onset dementia or Alzheimer's.(not trying to make a joke here or anything. I really think he has something going on neurologically) Just extreme religious zealotry. It's easy to get them confused.
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Gyges posted:Democrats usually win around 40% or so of the white vote. Considering they don't build their rhetoric around coddling the poor white man who is just being unfairly trampled under the boot of minorities and women like the Republicans do, that's not bad. It's hardly ignoring the demographic and puts them on the same emphasis as other demographics. You don't have to coddle workers but we haven't had a pro labor presidency since Carter, which in tandem with pro racial justice policies would put our country in a much more prosperous place.
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Feb 28, 2016 01:18
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Which Bernie will clear, even though it won't matter since he's not getting any delegates.
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Feb 28, 2016 01:19
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Yea Bernie just hit 19% so at least he didn't get 'literally doesn't exist'
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Feb 28, 2016 01:19
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The IronMonkey posted:Hillary voters seem more interested in attacking other democrats than actually getting something done. Actually most of us (well maybe not "us," I'm not a Hillary voter) are hoping that lovely thread is gassed by that point.
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Feb 28, 2016 01:19
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I really like The Young Turks show but I'm kind of laughing at their meltdown on the air right now. I already wrote off South Carolina, I'm saving my meltdown for after the Nebraska caucus.
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Feb 28, 2016 01:20
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I hope you all remember this moment when President Trump gets sworn in next January 
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Feb 28, 2016 01:21
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Joementum posted:Which Bernie will clear, even though it won't matter since he's not getting any delegates. well since it's proportional, wouldn't he just need 16.68% of the vote to round up to 1/3 in the 3-delegate districts and grab one of them? and for 4+-delegate districts, any number over 15% would get you rounding up to at least one of those proportionals. or is that not how the rounding works?
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Feb 28, 2016 01:22
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Nostrum posted:I hope you all remember this moment when President Trump gets sworn in next January If Trump wins it will be at least in part because Bernie poisoned the Hillary well even further
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Feb 28, 2016 01:22
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72% of voters believe that Hillary is honest and trustworthy in SC.
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Feb 28, 2016 01:22
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Kasie Hunt making a good point here about Bernie's fundraising momentum being strong, but their burn rate is also important and we don't know what that is right now. I'm mostly interesting in whether he's part of the convention.
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Feb 28, 2016 01:22
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Nostrum posted:I hope you all remember this moment when President Trump gets sworn in next January Not with this kind of minority turnout for Hillary.
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Feb 28, 2016 01:23
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Nostrum posted:I hope you all remember this moment when President Trump gets sworn in next January Hillary's going to run again in 2020 isn't she Gramma Progress sure likes losing
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Feb 28, 2016 01:23
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Joementum posted:Which Bernie will clear, even though it won't matter since he's not getting any delegates. Well, he'll get a few.
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Feb 28, 2016 01:23
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triple sulk posted:If Trump wins it will be at least in part because Bernie poisoned the Hillary well even further This is an interesting and nuanced position that definitely makes sense.
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triple sulk posted:If Trump wins it will be at least in part because Bernie poisoned the Hillary well even further Yep the Republicans definitely will go easier on her than Sanders!
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oystertoadfish posted:well since it's proportional, wouldn't he just need 16.68% of the vote to round up to 1/3 in the 3-delegate districts and grab one of them? and for 4+-delegate districts, any number over 15% would get you rounding up to at least one of those proportionals. or is that not how the rounding works? Good point. I had thought this worked like the GOP rules, but you're right, so he'll pick up a few delegates tonight.
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Feb 28, 2016 01:24
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EugeneJ posted:Hillary's going to run again in 2020 isn't she Well the standing President does usually run for re-election after their first term so probably.
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Feb 28, 2016 01:25
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As ever, Green Papers is running real-time delegate estimates by CD.
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lmfao 96% to 3% for black voters over 65
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Well the standing President does usually run for re-election after their first term so probably. She's not going to win And the DNC is going to blame "that goddamn socialist" for her loss instead of criticizing themselves or Hillary
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triple sulk posted:If Trump wins it will be at least in part because Bernie poisoned the Hillary well even further Hillary and the DNC did all that work for him.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Well the standing President does usually run for re-election after their first term so probably. As long as she doesn't invade Vietnam
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Joementum posted:Another point is that this is very good news for the African American community. Hillary and the media are rightly going to believe that she owes them a debt for putting her campaign back on track and politicians do work to pay back those debts. Also means that she'll keep putting the racial reforms she's been talking about as a key part of her campaign and agenda. drat, now you got me all hopeful again.
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Joementum posted:Kasie Hunt making a good point here about Bernie's fundraising momentum being strong, but their burn rate is also important and we don't know what that is right now. His burn rate is high, there was a good article on it the other day. He spent a lot in NH, NV and SC to "get in the game". Spent like $34m in Jan and raised $20m. You can see it in how low is super tuesday spending is.
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Mitt Romney posted:His burn rate is high, there was a good article on it the other day. He spent a lot in NH, NV and SC to "get in the game". Spent like $34m in Jan and raised $20m. You can see it in how low is super tuesday spending is. I'm seeing Bernie ads every other commercial break in Oklahoma.
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