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triple sulk posted:If Trump wins it will be at least in part because Bernie poisoned the Hillary well even further That's what hillary fans said in 08. Those fans werent worthless Millennials
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So is there a % of the white vote that whichever Dem can secure and basically create a no-way scenario for Trump? Considering their turnout so far has been 85%+ white they're going to need like 65%+ of them AND an increased turnout given how minorities are breaking against Trump
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Like Clinton is shattering Obama's support with black voters, right? That is pretty weird given that she isn't running against George Wallace or anything.
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Don't worry, the gap is closing fast!!!
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Mitt Romney posted:His burn rate is high, there was a good article on it the other day. He spent a lot in NH, NV and SC to "get in the game". Spent like $34m in Jan and raised $20m. You can see it in how low is super tuesday spending is. I sure love our corporate overlords in DC. Yep, voting third party in the general (local politics are way less corrupt and they need my votes) Hopefully the states get enough movement for an election reform amendment since it's an issue both sides care about.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I really like The Young Turks show but I'm kind of laughing at their meltdown on the air right now. drat, these are some salty folk.
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EugeneJ posted:She's not going to win sorry about your loss forums poster EugeneJ
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STAC Goat posted:drat, these are some salty folk. link
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Pinterest Mom posted:As ever, Green Papers is running real-time delegate estimates by CD. holy poo poo thanks, i love that site but didn't even think to check them for live updates Sir Tonk posted:
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Joementum posted:Annoying that O'Malley and Wilson are grouped as "other" in the returns. I want to see if Willie's beating Martin! Tied at 37 each right now~ http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/south-carolina
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Goetta posted:Like Clinton is shattering Obama's support with black voters, right? That is pretty weird given that she isn't running against George Wallace or anything. It's because Bernie has zero appeal to black voters while Clinton and Obama both had appeal to them (Obama just had a lot more)
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Goetta posted:Like Clinton is shattering Obama's support with black voters, right? That is pretty weird given that she isn't running against George Wallace or anything. Also given what she did there eight years ago.
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Bad Caller posted:I sure love our corporate overlords in DC. I really hope you live in either a solid red or blue state.
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Goetta posted:Like Clinton is shattering Obama's support with black voters, right? That is pretty weird given that she isn't running against George Wallace or anything. Well you see, Bernie does not care for the negro race
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Epic High Five posted:So is there a % of the white vote that whichever Dem can secure and basically create a no-way scenario for Trump? Considering their turnout so far has been 85%+ white they're going to need like 65%+ of them AND an increased turnout given how minorities are breaking against Trump yes, and it's something hilariously low like 38% i'd also like people who are stamping their feet in frustration about how the DNC is throwing this election away to take a deep breath, please, and remember that YCS is a highly unrepresentative echo chamber. i am voting for bernie and if hillary wins the nom i'm going to focus on downticket races and vote stein on the top of the ticket. however, this forum hates hillary way, way, way more than the average voter. she is simply not as widely hated as YCS seems to believe. part of it is that both clintons are notoriously teflon, and more than 20 years of constant attacks from the right on everything from murdering vince foster to cheating with cattle futures have amounted to nothing. at this point, you can tell people she's an untrustworthy double-dealer and they'll shrug and say "yup, she's really clever all right" and then pull the lever for her. this will be a real general election, not a 2008-style cakewalk, but the demographics pretty seriously favor team blue. to win trump needs to run the table on romney states and pick up a few extra, including some that very unfavorable for him. DAD LOST MY IPOD has issued a correction as of 01:37 on Feb 28, 2016 |
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"I'm going to vote for Jill Stein, that'll show 'em!"
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Winkie01 posted:link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg8wnIiAhnA
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Black voters didn't dislike Clinton in 2008, they just liked the other guy more. The racial shenanigans that went on during that election had little to no effect in 2016, or voters ended up interpreting it as an extension of her campaign and surrogates, not of Hillary herself.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I really hope you live in either a solid red or blue state. Solid red but we've split delegates before.
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81-19 loving lol what a decimation
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Winkie01 posted:Thanks cutie these guys don't look that young
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Bad Caller posted:Solid red but we've split delegates before. well if you're in NE-01 or whichever one obama won in 08 then you live in a swing electoral district and voting third party is evil!! Epic High Five posted:So is there a % of the white vote that whichever Dem can secure and basically create a no-way scenario for Trump? Considering their turnout so far has been 85%+ white they're going to need like 65%+ of them AND an increased turnout given how minorities are breaking against Trump you've probably seen this before but you can get a basic idea by playing with the sliders on this, which starts at the racial vote share/turnout #s from 2012 http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/08/26/demographics_and_the_2016_election_scenarios.html leaving turnout and other racial stuff the same and only clicking ^ on the republican non-hisp. white box you only have to go to 64% white to get a republican win - the reason that doesn't get talked up as much as minorities moving around is that in recent years there seems to have been a 30something% democratic firewall in the white demographic. considering that trump will probably increase anti-him minority turnout, despite the spin some people itf put on that, your 65%+ target is probably fair
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Well you see, Bernie does not care for the negro race These numbers suggest his platform includes reintroducing segregation
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MSNBC just asked if Clinton made a mistake running up the score in SC.
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:I'm seeing Bernie ads every other commercial break in Oklahoma. Yeah I'm seeing them frequently in Florida too. Which is probably pretty stupid on his campaign's part.
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Logikv9 posted:Black voters didn't dislike Clinton in 2008, they just liked the other guy more. The racial shenanigans that went on during that election had little to no effect in 2016, or voters ended up interpreting it as an extension of her campaign and surrogates, not of Hillary herself. Pretty much yea, a lot were wondering if that would actually manifest this go around and it has and then some. There was never an issue of black voters going 'gently caress Clinton' it was just 'yea I like Clinton but I want Obama more' and now with no Obama...we get this.
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#ImWithHer .... And I have a raging boner. I knocked on doors in Nevada and never ran into a single black supporter for Sanders over the age of 30.
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Mitt Romney posted:MSNBC just asked if Clinton made a mistake running up the score in SC. Wrap it up, Clintonailures.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:"I'm going to vote for Jill Stein, that'll show 'em!" Obama promised me progressive politics and I got 90s republican policies with the supreme court being the only ones to do anything identity politics wise. If the DNC doesn't want the millenial vote that's on them, since youth swing widely left.
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Mitt Romney posted:MSNBC just asked if Clinton made a mistake running up the score in SC. She's winning...TOO MUCH!
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:I'm seeing Bernie ads every other commercial break in Oklahoma. Yeah. Bernie is advertising only (and heavily!) in Oklahoma, Colorado, Massachusetts, and Minnesota on Super Tuesday. He's spending nothing (zero dollars [actually 0 I'm not exaggerating]) in each of Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, and Virginia.
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Pinterest Mom posted:Yeah. Bernie is advertising only (and heavily!) in Oklahoma, Colorado, Massachusetts, and Minnesota on Super Tuesday. He's spending nothing (zero dollars) in each of Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, and Virginia. This decision to run away screaming from black people is honestly looking pretty smart now
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Pinterest Mom posted:Yeah. Bernie is advertising only (and heavily!) in Oklahoma, Colorado, Massachusetts, and Minnesota on Super Tuesday. He's spending nothing (zero dollars [actually 0 I'm not exaggerating]) in each of Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, and Virginia. I saw the first ad period from Bernie in Michigan yesterday, but only the one time Tatum Girlparts posted:She's winning...TOO MUCH! American never wins!!! We have to win again
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The live results thread on /r/sandersforpresident is having an ongoing discussion about Hillary winning the over 65 black vote by 96%. The most popular theories are that old black people are socially and economically conservative, have a "plantation mentality" that caused them to never even consider Bernie, and a link to the Wikipedia page for "Antisemitism in the United States: Jump to African-Americans."
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Pinterest Mom posted:Yeah. Bernie is advertising only (and heavily!) in Oklahoma, Colorado, Massachusetts, and Minnesota on Super Tuesday. He's spending nothing (zero dollars [actually 0 I'm not exaggerating]) in each of Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, and Virginia. On one hand props for using his funds well but on the other, the optics of a dude outright writing off huge portions of the DNC (and basically entirely black ones...) is reeeeeally bad and can super easily be spun into 'so does he just not give a poo poo about you if you won't vote for him?'
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