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Combed Thunderclap posted:The alternative is the 100% chance of losing my health insurance and personally dying, unfortunately Yeah. And I totally understand this frustration. Maybe I'm jaded, but a group of people not voting or voting for some third party candidate is not going to fix the current problem. What will happen is a republican will win and the DNC's lesson learned will be "clearly, we need to move to the right, since thats where the voters are." The way to change the DNC is to not give up this movement after the election. Support Bernie Sanders as far as he can make it, then if (when) he concedes to Hillary, hold your nose and vote for her. Then, after she is elected president, stay vocal and get out there and vote more. Vote in the mid terms. Organize political movements. Go make yourself be heard.
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:Besides, if Hillary gets the nom, then America's getting a Republican president no matter how you slice it It doesn't really matter why you are misrepresenting your beliefs in Bernie's platform. The "gently caress Hillary" party is taking place on the other side of the aisle. Perhaps you need directions to find it?
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Nanomashoes posted:Based on my survey of GBS 95% of SA's userbase is gay and therefore has tons to lose. Man you really know a lot about GBS 
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Kucinich is a cool dude who will forever be a punchline and that's a bummer. Suicide booths. You know it.
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The Kingfish posted:I just remembered that Bush, Rubio and Cruz are all pledged to endorse Trump after he wins the nomination. Forgot about this lol, can't wait for the cruz endorsement.
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The thing to remember is that Bernie and Hillary are not enemies. They are two people competing for the same position, but they don't hate each other. Hell, just look at how the debates have been. There are some barbs thrown back and forth, but it's been very affable for the most part. Compare that to the GOP's debates where these guys seem to legitimately loving hate each other.
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well you see the current system is imperfect therefore by deleting it entirely and replacing it with libertarian cash-only hospitals you are deleting those imperfections and making it more perfect. furthermore,
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Crazy idea: Vote for the candidate who most closely represents your views. gently caress anyone who tries to shame you for it. It's not your duty to vote for the Democrat every time. You know, some people even vote for the Republican! In fact, just about half the country does. I bet you even know a few yourself.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Kucinich is a cool dude who will forever be a punchline and that's a bummer. Repeal and replace, and allow insurance providers to compete with one another across state lines. Free market competition will reduce waste. Of course, we can't let people die in the streets. America isn't great if we're letting people die in the streets, is it? No. We'll take care of people and we'll do it for a fair price.
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Cnut the Great posted:Crazy idea: Vote for the candidate who most closely represents your views. gently caress anyone who tries to shame you for it. It's not your duty to vote for the Democrat every time. Yeah, but in the general you should vote for what would do the most good. And unless Trump and Clinton both die the day of the election, voting third party or voting green or not voting isn't doing anyone any good.
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Cnut the Great posted:Crazy idea: Vote for the candidate who most closely represents your views. gently caress anyone who tries to shame you for it. It's not your duty to vote for the Democrat every time. people who vote according to their views are fine, accelerationists and sore losers on the other hand...
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crazy cloud posted:Oh and BTW today we move into the "trump is the presumptive nominee" phase of the campaign. I called this poo poo earlier than anyone and I love the timeline we are in most dearly. Welcome to hell, friends  Mordiceius posted:Yeah. And I totally understand this frustration. Maybe I'm jaded, but a group of people not voting or voting for some third party candidate is not going to fix the current problem. I look forward to voting for a third party candidate the second we ditch FPTP. Ironically, even my lifelong hard-core straight-party-ticket Republican family members support proportional representation and transitioning to a public-funding-only electoral set-up, which fascinates me. Makes you wonder what else is lurking under the hood of the American electorate but just isn't up for discussion right now.
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Obamacare is now keeping a good number of my chronically ill friends alive, and I'll vote for anyone who keeps it safe and by extension keeps them safe. Sorry if that's not ideologically pure enough for someone whose friends aren't suffering.
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Mordiceius posted:The thing to remember is that Bernie and Hillary are not enemies. They are two people competing for the same position, but they don't hate each other. Hell, just look at how the debates have been. There are some barbs thrown back and forth, but it's been very affable for the most part. Compare that to the GOP's debates where these guys seem to legitimately loving hate each other. No one owns your vote, and it's not a moral responsibility to vote for bad candidates.
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Brannock posted:a couple years ago I had to drive down to tennessee for a fencing tournament, and one thing I noticed was how smooth the roads are down south Driving Detroit->Toledo this is particularly striking, and hilarious.
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itsgotmetoo posted:No one owns your vote, and it's not a moral responsibility to vote for bad candidates. It must be nice to not have to think of anyone but yourself and vote selfishly.
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so loving future posted:Driving Detroit->Toledo this is particularly striking, and hilarious. And then you hit Pennsylvania and it goes back to poo poo again.
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Mordiceius posted:It must be nice to not have to think of anyone but yourself and vote selfishly. "Play the game by my rules!!!!111 <angry tantrum>"
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wish i could isolate the laugh from this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZ2q9NmYf6g&t=16s
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Mordiceius posted:The thing to remember is that Bernie and Hillary are not enemies. They are two people competing for the same position, but they don't hate each other. Hell, just look at how the debates have been. There are some barbs thrown back and forth, but it's been very affable for the most part. Compare that to the GOP's debates where these guys seem to legitimately loving hate each other. One of the many things this cycle that make me glad to be a Democrat.
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If Bernie can't get people to vote for him it's a problem with Bernie If Hillary can't get people to vote for her it's THOSE drat BERNIEBROS! PETULANT loving CHILDREN! The hottest of takes
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Fox News' front page, with no context provided: Who will be top loser? I want the gay one!
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Are Rubio's children writing these lines for him? jesus
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Happy Day of Lavos, as March 1st will be known from now as, everyone
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itsgotmetoo posted:No one owns your vote, and it's not a moral responsibility to vote for bad candidates. You also shouldn't pretend to not be a massive hypocrite while doing so. You are not being principled. You are just a victim of the cult of personality .
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Lord of Pie posted:If Bernie can't get people to vote for him it's a problem with Bernie Lol berniebros don't vote. Nice try though
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Mordiceius posted:It must be nice to not have to think of anyone but yourself and vote selfishly. Enjoy your battered spouse syndrome.
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Lord of Pie posted:If Bernie can't get people to vote for him it's a problem with Bernie this but unironically.
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Lord of Pie posted:If Bernie can't get people to vote for him it's a problem with Bernie it seems like shes having quite a bit of success getting people to vote for her
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pathetic little tramp posted:Completely irrelevant to how awesome Kucinich is politically, the dude is 5'4 or something and his wife is basically a supermodel so you know a dude like that has got to have some confidence like whoa. or a dick like woah
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Vote for Bernie in the primaries and the Democrat in the general, all.
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itsgotmetoo posted:No one owns your vote, and it's not a moral responsibility to vote for bad candidates. Both Clinton and Sanders are good candidates, hth.
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poty posted:What's wrong with you I consistently want a progressive president?
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Winkie01 posted:I just got home, did I miss anything hilarious? Rubio called Donald Trump CON-ald Trump. So, YES
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