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Samurai Sanders posted:I want to know what people who don't want it more liberal than Obama want exactly. A sane Republican candidate
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:thats not far off from how NH and Iowa polled on that same question iirc From NH: quote:The most fascinating exit poll data on the Dem side:
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I'm starting to feel that, though consistent with the theme of Town Meeting day, my decision to purchase a bottle of Vermont wine for tonight was not well thought out.
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Cnut the Great posted:None of us really knows which strategy is better for society in the long-term. Everyone on the lesser-of-two-evils train is constantly thinking in terms of single upcoming elections, and every single one of those elections is always the most important election ever that we absolutely can't afford to lose, lest untold numbers of people suffer horribly and die. Hey, maybe the reason every single election ever is like that is because everyone keeps voting for the lesser of two evils, rather than the candidate who isn't even evil in the first place? But you see, by voting for the bad candidates they will realize that they are bad and stop being bad. Or something.
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This is why primaries exist. If you like Bernie more vote for him! But in the general not letting the GOP destroy the country is the priority.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:thats not far off from how NH and Iowa polled on that same question iirc It is not. Hillary wins those voters way, way harder than Bernie does (like 75-25)
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How the gently caress is that not called Bernie Beer?
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Joementum posted:I'm starting to feel that, though consistent with the theme of Town Meeting day, my decision to purchase a bottle of Vermont wine for tonight was not well thought out. Keep it classic, drink cider for political events. I've got a few big bottles of nice hard cider from an orchard nearby me to drink when I get home tonight to watch results.
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Soul Glo posted:A sane Republican candidate It's amazing and hilarious how much the GOP would loving dominate American politics forever if they could knock off all the racist bullshit.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Vermont Democratic Black vote is 1% according to exit polls That's probably every one of them in the state
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Cnut the Great posted:1) Enough people stop using the lesser-of-two-evils argument to prop up the current system and start simply voting for the candidates who best represent them, disrupting the system peacefully in a movement that builds momentum gradually as voting third party in protest becomes more and more normalized. this is magical thinking fyi what actually happens is those people get their less-favored candidate repeatedly until they learn that there is a reason that "lesser of two evils" is axiomatic in FPTP systems and trying to pretend you can wish it away is as effective as wishing away unicorns sorry you don't like reality, but it doesn't care
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Fast Luck posted:Also it's not like the most juicy scandal but federal law was in fact likely broken, and although Hillary describes her motive as "convenience" it's not improbable that she put the emails on a private server to evade FOIA requests which is both a hit against transparency and an indication that there might be something unseemly going on there (like Clinton Foundation pay for State Department play) quote:The FBI has expanded its investigation of Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server during her time as secretary of State to determine whether her Clinton Foundation work violated public corruption laws, according to Fox News. An earlier article: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/hillary-clinton-email-fbi-probe-215630 This in addition to the FOIA lawsuits. Being subject to multiple ongoing investigations is not good for your party nominee's electability in my view
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Evil/good is a wheel. If you keep voting for one of two evil candidates, eventually they will become so evil that they are good, and we will attain heaven on earth. Having an actual good candidate would only cause stagnation.
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Cnut the Great posted:None of us really knows which strategy is better for society in the long-term. Everyone on the lesser-of-two-evils train is constantly thinking in terms of single upcoming elections, and every single one of those elections is always the most important election ever that we absolutely can't afford to lose, lest untold numbers of people suffer horribly and die. Hey, maybe the reason every single election ever is like that is because everyone keeps voting for the lesser of two evils, rather than the candidate who isn't even evil in the first place?
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Drinking high pH water here, might break out some root beer when the polls close.
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Fast Luck posted:for you andichu: We actually have data that says no one gives a gently caress.
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Agreed. I'm voting Nader in '00. Fight the power!
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https://twitter.com/aedwardslevy/status/704800979741450240
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Soul Glo posted:A sane Republican candidate
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Fox News reports that a new shocking email development is just around the corner for the 100th loving time
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Unnamed sources from Fox lmao
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nopants posted:Evil/good is a wheel. If you keep voting for one of two evil candidates, eventually they will become so evil that they are good, and we will attain heaven on earth. Having an actual good candidate would only cause stagnation. Trump!
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PleasingFungus posted:Agreed. I'm voting Nader in '00. Fight the power! http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/6/1260721/-The-Nader-Myth
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Cnut the Great posted:None of us really knows which strategy is better for society in the long-term. Everyone on the lesser-of-two-evils train is constantly thinking in terms of single upcoming elections, and every single one of those elections is always the most important election ever that we absolutely can't afford to lose, lest untold numbers of people suffer horribly and die. Hey, maybe the reason every single election ever is like that is because everyone keeps voting for the lesser of two evils, rather than the candidate who isn't even evil in the first place? lol i missed this we can't like, KNOW, things, man *takes massive bong hit* thinking you, like, know, things, man, is way uncool
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Beer options at the Bernie rally tonight.
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evilweasel posted:Continue Obama's policies vs. more liberal though is a pretty solid clinton/sanders proxy. Bernie only won "more liberal" in SC by 10 points.
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evilweasel posted:lol i missed this Socrates quote
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Hannity's last words on the exit polls: Angry people - Trump Conservatives - Trump/Cruz Evangelicals - Cruz/Trump Late deciders - Rubio
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:We actually have data that says no one gives a gently caress. oh yeah? well just you wait until we dig up a couple more failed Clinton attacks from the 90s
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At least 6 in 10 Republicans support the Muslim ban according to ABC news
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here is how you deal with fptp, without invoking magical thinking: state referendums. take one of the many states that lets public referendums alter the constitution, then get an amendment to alter the voting system into that state constitution. expand from there, as parties develop in those states with a vested interest in breaking the fptp national rules you build enough political power to have a fighting chance notice how nothing in this plan involves people doing things very obviously not in their interests for indeterminate periods of time
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Joementum posted:Beer options at the Bernie rally tonight. I didn't realize feeling the Bern made people so bored.
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Stop beating the DONT VOTE THIRD PARTY horse to death jesus christ
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Joementum posted:Beer options at the Bernie rally tonight. What piece of poo poo state charges $7 for a loving lager? Jesus loving christ
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Prof. Lurker posted:At least 6 in 10 Republicans support the Muslim ban according to ABC news
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Louisgod posted:What piece of poo poo state charges $7 for a loving lager? Jesus loving christ If that bothers you then never look up sports stadium pricing for beer
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Prof. Lurker posted:At least 6 in 10 Republicans support the Muslim ban according to ABC news This is exactly why not throwing away your vote is important as all hell.
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Prof. Lurker posted:At least 6 in 10 Republicans support the Muslim ban according to ABC news lol
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The continue obama's policies/more liberal numbers were only a little less favorable to Bernie and that was a tie. This doesn't seem to be a useful predictor other than to say "Bernie will lose VA."
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Republicans never believed in religious liberty, that's just their smokescreen for why they hate homos so much.
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