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Fereydun posted:bring on the kumite you loving cowards i am the eternal champion of the only tournament this thread has had should we do another one then
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fozzy fosbourne posted:Eh, I'm not so sure about that one. Without actually having access to the data, I think it's reasonable to imagine that the very top tier of players need to be matched up with people that they will beat 9/10 times in order to get matches at a decent clip. Without being matched up with the same single other top player who happened to be online. Ok, let me rephrase: the current legit platinums are great players, but they can be easily matched with other players that can bring that winrate down. You don't need to look at their matchmaking algorithm, just look at tournament results and which of those play online.
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interrodactyl posted:should we do another one then yes
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unless you are where the majority of players settle, which will likely end up being super/ultra silver, there just aren't going to be enough people at your rank with a good connection to get matched up with them more often than not. art losing 241 points to a bronze necalli on stream was pretty hilarious
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fozzy fosbourne posted:Eh, I'm not so sure about that one. Without actually having access to the data, I think it's reasonable to imagine that the very top tier of players need to be matched up with people that they will beat 9/10 times in order to get matches at a decent clip. Without being matched up with the same single other top player who happened to be online. It's a problem that every competitive game sees at the extreme ends of the ladder and it all boils down to the developer in question having to find the right balance between getting fair matches vs actually getting to play a match in a reasonable amount of time.
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interrodactyl posted:should we do another one then how am i supposed to remain the eternal champ if you do
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Fereydun posted:how am i supposed to remain the eternal champ if you do i have no problem with the way ranked works. the guys at the top have insane winrates because they are that much better than most of the playerbase. if the good player wins, he barely gets any points while he risks a ton. i think they did a good job of creating a system that will accurately gauge a player's relative skill level after enough play. they absolutely failed at making a system that knows how good you are and only matches you up against similar players. i also have no idea how they'd do this without large amounts of people just never finding a match.
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angel opportunity posted:I'm still waiting to see if this game will be appealing to me. I'm just finding myself wanting to play Xrd at meetups and never drawn to playing this. Hoping some cool stuff will get discovered that kind of breaks the game I'm pretty sure the main problem with fighting game matchmaking is that it's hard to objectively (read: "for a program to") tell if someone is good at the game or bad. Your practical data points are basically who they beat, and who beat them. Which would be ok, except there are so many terrible players. There's an entire set of the fighting game community that will lose to stupid poo poo like "jumping HK, LK, shoryuken, repeat" every time and until you get to a certain level that will give you just as many points as beating someone who is actually average. Other genres of game are either team-games, or the style of the game is such that the better player will win at a higher rate than in fighting games. In fighting games, if you treat a player like they're better than they are you can end up being blown up by stupid poo poo like start-of-round wakeup super. That is probably not a problem in something like Starcraft (disclaimer: I don't play RTS at all). As a result, it's not surprising that the only useful information you can get from ranking points in fighting games is that someone in the upper echelon of points is probably actually good at the game. But even that's not a guarantee. Having said all that, it's a little weird that the game doesn't seem to try harder to match you with people with similar league points, but SF4 had trouble with that as well.
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I don't know what it is about Cammy but she can get me (as Ryu) into this unstoppable loop of chain kicks and I don't really know how to stop it from happening.
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dangerdoom volvo posted:zand really is putting too much effort into explaining in a reasonable manner his complaints and motivations to people who dont care or understand. just shitpost my dude teagone posted:Which is why you and a few others are discussing things that go beyond "this game is poo poo, look at this garbage here's a video or image with no text showing my disdain" right? Lmao.  cams posted:thank you.
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Verisimilidude posted:I don't know what it is about Cammy but she can get me (as Ryu) into this unstoppable loop of chain kicks and I don't really know how to stop it from happening. Try your V Reversal. Press forward plus all three punch buttons at the same time while blocking. It uses one stock of your V Gauge. You could also just shouryuken but that's really risky and dumb even if it is objectively the coolest response. Use the MP version because it has the most invincibility.
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Verisimilidude posted:I don't know what it is about Cammy but she can get me (as Ryu) into this unstoppable loop of chain kicks and I don't really know how to stop it from happening. What are "chain kicks"-- if you can explain this I can help you Also this game is fun in the worst kind of way right up until you fight a Dictator; at least Vanilla Sagat was fun to fight against in SF4.
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Still can't join lounges at all, finding games every 15 minutes or so, and of the 3 ranked matches I won, 2 didn't give me points. I haven't checked yet, but please don't tell me this game, on top of having a poo poo roster, terrible menus and appalling connectivity issues also has the same issue SF4 had at the beginning where you can just quit and gently caress the other guy. Please.
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Kawabata posted:Still can't join lounges at all, finding games every 15 minutes or so, and of the 3 ranked matches I won, 2 didn't give me points. Just add the guy as a friend then set up a private party, next step begin share play go into v.s mode and let him play as player two. You have now successfully joined a lounge!
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Kawabata posted:I haven't checked yet, but please don't tell me this game, on top of having a poo poo roster, terrible menus and appalling connectivity issues also has the same issue SF4 had at the beginning where you can just quit and gently caress the other guy. Please. Buddy I got bad news for ya
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inthesto posted:Completing story mode with every character is 160k, then easy survival is another 160k, and then normal survival is yet another 160k Completing all single player content available right now nets you 1,084,000 FM by itself. (Story+ALL survival) Good luck with that though. AFAIK the only way you can tell if someone did it is if they are at least level 464, because every character will be level 29 by that point.
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Kawabata posted:I haven't checked yet, but please don't tell me this game, on top of having a poo poo roster, terrible menus and appalling connectivity issues also has the same issue SF4 had at the beginning where you can just quit and gently caress the other guy. Please. I won 10 games tonight on ranked and lost 3 guess how many points I got. -35
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There's a Korean tournament going on right now on twitch. As usual the commentators are amazing.
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Doing a different kind of video today - I downloaded a Daigo replay and did kind of a play-by-play to break down what's going on. Pls let me know if you think it works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcjRfo85agE
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Is there a way to tell if someone is online in the game? I have no idea if I just missed something or you need to coordinate outside the cfn to set-up fights with your friends on different hardware.
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I may be dropping all of my hit confirms because I forget to consider that I might actually hit and my play is full of terrible, gaping holes but I'm having fun. The 25 hours I've put into this comprise 90% of my fighting game experience in the last 15 years, but I won 13 of my 17 games tonight and I feel like I sort of "get" what I'm doing. I'm also really glad cross-play is a thing, because 95+% of my opponents are on PS4 and I get to play on PC without online being a ghost town.
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Jmcrofts posted:Doing a different kind of video today - I downloaded a Daigo replay and did kind of a play-by-play to break down what's going on. Pls let me know if you think it works Yeah I clicked the link and the video started playing.
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Puzzle Thing posted:Is there a way to tell if someone is online in the game? I have no idea if I just missed something or you need to coordinate outside the cfn to set-up fights with your friends on different hardware. Every name you've added to your cfn should be on your favorites list from which you can see what game mode someone is currently in.
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OxMan posted:Every name you've added to your cfn should be on your favorites list from which you can see what game mode someone is currently in. it doesnt show if people are offline tho
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it apparently still says i'm in a ranked match, but i haven't played in a week.
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Jmcrofts posted:Doing a different kind of video today - I downloaded a Daigo replay and did kind of a play-by-play to break down what's going on. Pls let me know if you think it works Please do more of these! That was really interesting and fun to watch. You took a nice high-level, strategic perspective on the match that I don't usually think too much about. I'd also love to see a similar treatment of the more low-level tactics happening at each moment; watching your analysis made me all the more curious about all the other small decisions the two players were making throughout the match. Thanks for the great content!
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Pomp posted:it apparently still says i'm in a ranked match, but i haven't played in a week. Ah poo poo i thought that stuff was accurate. Welp, sorry Booyah no idea then.
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHey1vFHcnk look nobody could pull off a crouching jab in a real match, get real
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More of yall should get on that discord thing, it is fun to play and match with goons 
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Evil Canadian posted:More of yall should get on that discord thing, it is fun to play and match with goons Where can I get details of this discord thing I would like to play and match with goons
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Help Im Alive posted:I think they said one character per month but I might be making that up That'd really be the sour grapes for me then 
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signalnoise posted:Where can I get details of this discord thing I would like to play and match with goons Link is in the names thread here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3765001
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Microwaves Mom posted:That'd really be the sour grapes for me then At least we get Alex first!
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Its really easy to do normal and easy survival modes so im unlocking everyones generic colors. Sadly you don't get any fight money for going through for alternate costumes or anything at all sides colors 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkWU-WDbXKk This is probably a really really silly thing to be asking, but this video basically shows the issue I'm having with normal attacks that combo off each other. Any advice from the thread would be great. (If the answer is just practice them a tonne then that's fair)
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Double tap the second button and it's much easier, medium to medium link is basically the same with every character so it's not really bison specific.
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Yorkshire Tea posted:This is probably a really really silly thing to be asking, but this video basically shows the issue I'm having with normal attacks that combo off each other. Any advice from the thread would be great. (If the answer is just practice them a tonne then that's fair)
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