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i bought shallie today and it's nice but i dunno why they if they got rid of the time limit thing they still make you clear areas sometimes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U52f_21-AE8
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Ciaphas posted:Is this from the ending or something 'cos dang I really like it Last (story) boss. When I fought it I just let the song play for a solid 5 minutes before actually doing anything. EDIT: I've been playing Shallie on-and-off for months but it's not really grabbing me. Refusing to let you access your lists of quests after you've finished the main ones during a period is more frustrating than any time limit. The menus are also really bad, and it's unnecessarily annoying to look up infinished quests. Renoistic fucked around with this message at 08:15 on Mar 5, 2016 |
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Mar 5, 2016 08:05
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Every "grinding guide" for Bravely Default is pointless because it requires you to have high levels on a bunch of different classes just to do the gimmicks.
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here's my grinding guide: wait until random battles are giving you 300 jp a pop and then turn auto battle on and walk around in circles until you're satisfied
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Mar 5, 2016 08:24
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Grinding is the way of the coward.
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Renoistic posted:Last (story) boss. When I fought it I just let the song play for a solid 5 minutes before actually doing anything. Ayesha's time limit works well because it pushes you to always be doing something important, but unfortunately there's also bits where you just have to clear an area for no reason to progress. No time limit would be fine with E&L's bingo thing, though. pparently sophie is really good so i look forward to that being translated at some point
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Mar 5, 2016 08:29
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Terper posted:Grinding is the way of the coward.
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Mar 5, 2016 08:38
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corn in the bible posted:Ayesha's time limit works well because it pushes you to always be doing something important, but unfortunately there's also bits where you just have to clear an area for no reason to progress. No time limit would be fine with E&L's bingo thing, though. how long did you spend on ayesha, corn, and do you have any idea if you saw everything in that time? or is it gonna take a couple goes (if the game lasts that long for me of course)
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Ciaphas posted:how long did you spend on ayesha, corn, and do you have any idea if you saw everything in that time? or is it gonna take a couple goes (if the game lasts that long for me of course) i didn't see everything, for sure. there's a super boss dungeon and some other stuff, plus ofc every character has their own events and ending... and i didnt give a poo poo about some of them so I never bothered. doing everything in one playthrough is maybe impossible? if you wanna beat the game and not try to 100% everything, it'll probably be like 25 hours i guess. it's kinda like a harvest moon or rune factory in that if you actually want to see every single character's events it's either play it several times or follow a walkthrough, but only a madman would really care. except for keith's events because keith is my bro corn in the bible fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Mar 5, 2016 |
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Mar 5, 2016 08:48
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Ciaphas posted:how long did you spend on ayesha, corn, and do you have any idea if you saw everything in that time? or is it gonna take a couple goes (if the game lasts that long for me of course) Ayesha was my first Atelier and I managed to get all endings except one on my first playthrough without a walkthrough, but wasn't able to beat all the optional bosses. There are regular item appraisal competitions and you need to win all of them to get one particual ending, which I didn't. It's a reasonable challenge, and you don't have to min/max everything to get the endings. I liked all characters so I made an effort to see every event and do every character side quest.
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Mar 5, 2016 08:50
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it's also possible to burn out the clock doing lots of alchemy, in which case you will probably at least destroy the bosses and win because your bombs will do enormous amounts of damage and everyone on your team will be invincible, but you may miss some of the side events.
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So maybe I'm confused on how job changing works in Bravely Default or something, here's my situation. I just got to chapter 5, using a Freelancer/Monk/Black Mage/White Mage group all the way. The jobs are all mastered now, and I'd like to try some others, but when I switch I feel monstrously underpowered. I got absolutely wrecked by the black mage boss in the dungeon area.
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Verranicus posted:So maybe I'm confused on how job changing works in Bravely Default or something, here's my situation. I just got to chapter 5, using a Freelancer/Monk/Black Mage/White Mage group all the way. The jobs are all mastered now, and I'd like to try some others, but when I switch I feel monstrously underpowered. I got absolutely wrecked by the black mage boss in the dungeon area. I'm not even sure how you got to chapter 5 with a perma-freelancer, honestly
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Mar 5, 2016 09:50
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Your stats are based on job level to some extent.
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Theres zombies outside the lava city at a certain point, and they give tons of jp and money. Easy 99 for just throwing Phoenix downs.
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Mar 5, 2016 11:48
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Ah, crap. Screwed up a main quest in GoF. There's a section with a river flood where you have to build bridges out of planks to save people. I didn't realize you have to build them in a certain sequence to get all the people and the treasure chests, otherwise you run out of materials - the plank counter is not shown anywhere. So I had to run past half of them, abandon treasure, and tell a little girl to gently caress off. I hope the bridges come back after the flood, because I want those drat items.  No, DOMO. Bad DOMO! Show me self-referential quests after I beat the game, in the extra chapter. Stick to what you do best for now...   Ah, Jap... China?  
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Mar 5, 2016 13:00
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Well I died like a chump to Killer at the Vilcabamba Ruins in Shadow Hearts: From the New World because of my own hubris. All I had to do was get Ricardo to rez Johnny and cast an all-cure, instead I soared too high like Icarus and missed the Perfect zone on the Ring. Ricardo and Shania both went Berserk, so Shania tossed buffs on what was left of the party while Ricardo played his guitar like the orchestral quartet on the sinking titanic as Killer offed them both  .
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Mar 5, 2016 13:10
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This song & the OP movie are what got me into Atelier for real
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Mar 5, 2016 16:22
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The quest list in Shallie comes back in the last chapter and I don't think you can ever miss anything. The UI for it is really unintuitive and badly-made, though.
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Mar 5, 2016 16:30
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Yakiniku Teishoku posted:This song & the OP movie are what got me into Atelier for real yeah, to be honest while ayesha is cooler i think e&l is the best introduction to the series partly because it's so completely different from a normal jrpg
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Mar 5, 2016 16:57
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Okay after listening to some Bravely Default music over the last several days I have an urge to pick it back up. Does Ringabel's journal have a summary of what you've done and what your current goal is so I'm not flailing around lost trying to remember what I was loving doing?
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Mar 5, 2016 17:16
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Yeah, plus you've got Airy on the bottom screen telling you where to go. You could also ask us.
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corn in the bible posted:yeah, to be honest while ayesha is cooler i think e&l is the best introduction to the series partly because it's so completely different from a normal jrpg To be fair, though, I immediately bought Ayesha first so I could move on to E&L after and I just totally fell in love with the Dusk world because of it
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Verranicus posted:So maybe I'm confused on how job changing works in Bravely Default or something, here's my situation. I just got to chapter 5, using a Freelancer/Monk/Black Mage/White Mage group all the way. The jobs are all mastered now, and I'd like to try some others, but when I switch I feel monstrously underpowered. I got absolutely wrecked by the black mage boss in the dungeon area. i try not to tell people they're playing a game wrong, but if you've gotten 3/4 of the way through a game known for having a job system while using a grand total of four of them, you are playing the game wrong. when you see a huge jump in the AP required to level up your jobs around level 9 or 10, you're supposed to take that as a hint to try something else not as a personal challenge Neddy Seagoon posted:Well I died like a chump to Killer at the Vilcabamba Ruins in Shadow Hearts: From the New World because of my own hubris. All I had to do was get Ricardo to rez Johnny and cast an all-cure, instead I soared too high like Icarus and missed the Perfect zone on the Ring. Ricardo and Shania both went Berserk, so Shania tossed buffs on what was left of the party while Ricardo played his guitar like the orchestral quartet on the sinking titanic as Killer offed them both on the bright side, you have fine taste in party members
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Looper posted:i try not to tell people they're playing a game wrong, but if you've gotten 3/4 of the way through a game known for having a job system while using a grand total of four of them, you are playing the game wrong. when you see a huge jump in the AP required to level up your jobs around level 9 or 10, you're supposed to take that as a hint to try something else not as a personal challenge Red Mage with Sword Magic secondary, a Ranger with Sword Magic secondary, a black mage with time secondary, and a white mage with time secondary, and they all have several other thins leveled to decent levels too. And I've got everything between Freelancer and Pirate inclusive unlocked and I'm in town with a "PLOT HERE" marker nearby so I guess I didn't need to be too worried about being lost. 
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Mar 5, 2016 18:23
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Looper posted:on the bright side, you have fine taste in party members Fine taste nothing, half of Shadow Hearts' cast sucks eggs. Johnny is a shity mage who is outshone by the vampire lady at every turn, Nathan is redundant 'cause of Shania, Ricardo has the best buff skills in the game, and it's basically a toss-up between Frank and the cat, both of whom are slow and can't hit worth poo poo.
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8-Bit Scholar posted:Fine taste nothing, half of Shadow Hearts' cast sucks eggs. Johnny is a shity mage who is outshone by the vampire lady at every turn, Nathan is redundant 'cause of Shania, Ricardo has the best buff skills in the game, and it's basically a toss-up between Frank and the cat, both of whom are slow and can't hit worth poo poo. even if he weren't the best party member in the game, ricardo would still be the best
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Mar 5, 2016 18:30
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Speaking of Shadow Hearts can someone talk about the horror elements of it. I keep seeing talk about how it all went away after 2, but nothing specific. They are able to be specific about the goofy stuff like the Man Festival, Wolf Bouts, or collecting gay porn. It just makes it seem like it has always been a comedy series and that From the New World took it too far.
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Electric Phantasm posted:Speaking of Shadow Hearts can someone talk about the horror elements of it. I keep seeing talk about how it all went away after 2, but nothing specific. They are able to be specific about the goofy stuff like the Man Festival, Wolf Bouts, or collecting gay porn. It just makes it seem like it has always been a comedy series and that From the New World took it too far. shloooooop shlooooooooop skreeeeee
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Electric Phantasm posted:Speaking of Shadow Hearts can someone talk about the horror elements of it. I keep seeing talk about how it all went away after 2, but nothing specific. They are able to be specific about the goofy stuff like the Man Festival, Wolf Bouts, or collecting gay porn. It just makes it seem like it has always been a comedy series and that From the New World took it too far. go look at any of the monster designs
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Electric Phantasm posted:Speaking of Shadow Hearts can someone talk about the horror elements of it. I keep seeing talk about how it all went away after 2, but nothing specific. They are able to be specific about the goofy stuff like the Man Festival, Wolf Bouts, or collecting gay porn. It just makes it seem like it has always been a comedy series and that From the New World took it too far. http://shadowhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Mail_Man http://shadowhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Rage_Demon http://shadowhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Tammuz http://shadowhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Morgan http://shadowhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Fish_Curry
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Looper posted:go look at any of the monster designs Oh drat Google is showing me fantastic monsters. hosed up looking in a good way. SelenicMartian posted:http://shadowhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Hell_Cat Mail Man posted:Ghost of a mailman who ate all the dogs in town. He despises his own form. His kicks are powerful and unpredictable. This owns.
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Shadow Hearts is the one related to Koudelka right? Man I loved that game, I should check them out
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Mar 5, 2016 19:29
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I can hope for a PS4 HD release some day I guess.
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8-Bit Scholar posted:I can hope for a PS4 HD release some day I guess. Or at least a release on the PS2 VC thing on PS4.
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Electric Phantasm posted:Speaking of Shadow Hearts can someone talk about the horror elements of it. I keep seeing talk about how it all went away after 2, but nothing specific. They are able to be specific about the goofy stuff like the Man Festival, Wolf Bouts, or collecting gay porn. It just makes it seem like it has always been a comedy series and that From the New World took it too far. It's never had a serious horror element to it but there's a lot of pretty disturbing or otherwise real weird monster design and some pretty gory backgrounds, for example in the first Shadow Hearts pretty much the first area is a town where the streets are covered in blood and corpses and you fight the first real boss in the middle of thousands of piled skulls. There's also the traditional "doll house" sidequest which always has a darker atmosphere than most of the rest of the game.       I think it's more about the overall atmosphere that especially in the first game is often fairly bleak even though there's a ton of goofiness.
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Kanfy posted:It's never had a serious horror element to it well, excusing Koudelka, though kind of to the detriment of the gameplay
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Mar 5, 2016 19:41
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The Colonel posted:well, excusing Koudelka, though kind of to the detriment of the gameplay Well sure, but I consider Koudelka kind of its own thing since it's so different. Since I think you said you were playing it, the first Shadow Hearts in particular is a lot like Final Fantasy VII in that both games have a lot of goofy-rear end humour but also also a fair few parts that are pretty gory or otherwise kinda eerie even though they're obviously not horror games by any stretch.
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Yakiniku Teishoku posted:Shadow Hearts is the one related to Koudelka right? Man I loved that game, I should check them out Yeah, they're indirect sequels. I had actually played Koudelka way back in the day and then played through Shadow Hearts 1 completely unaware it was connected to Koudelka. The second half of the game came as a bit of a shock.
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SH1 is a game where Alice's ultimate weapon is the Necronomicon bound in human skin, and next to her is Margaret who kills enemies by summoning a giant frying pan.
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