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Mr Fixit posted:I like the current balance of anti airs vs jump ins. They took away the universal options of invincible back dash, and focus attacks. So now you are forced to anti air or eat the pressure. The light button anti airs do very little damage, and reverse the pressure. That's a fair price to pay for the big fat jump in combo your opponent was attempting. When "press jab butan" always works it feels dumb. Necalli's seems like a mistake but Chun and Sim's were clearly designed to have anti-air frames.
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Yo any tips on getting in on Fang with Zangief? Hardly anyone plays him so it doesn't come often but he puts me on tilt bad. I can only poke him with dash st. hp or st. mk between his medium/light projectile spam which i can't do anything after at which point the spam begins again.
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Mar 5, 2016 21:10
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Jmcrofts posted:Worked pretty well in 3s you mean the game that killed street fighter for nearly a decade beyond that though what reason did anyone have to expect that this game would be sf3: we removed all the good parts edition instead of another game like sf4
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Mar 5, 2016 21:23
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Big ol babies
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Mar 5, 2016 21:31
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darealkooky posted:you mean the game that killed street fighter for nearly a decade Right, this wasn't because of the death of arcades or the lack of a good console port or the removal of everyone's favorite characters from 2, nah it was the Jab anti airs
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Mar 5, 2016 21:31
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Jmcrofts posted:Right, this wasn't because of the death of arcades or the lack of a good console port or the removal of everyone's favorite characters from 2, nah it was the Jab anti airs What's an arcade
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Mar 5, 2016 21:35
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Jab anti-airs were "good" in 3s for entirely different reasons and trying to imply it's because jumpins had terrible hitboxes or the jabs themselves had good anti-air hitboxes is disingenuous as hell. Makoto has the best standing jab anti-air and the hitbox is barely above the hurtbox in her hand, and way below her head. Jumpins also had hitboxes that extended outward or below their hurtboxes and there wasn't a giant horizontal hurtbox slapped onto the bottom third of every jump attack just for the gently caress of it.ZenVulgarity posted:What's an arcade 
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Mar 5, 2016 21:36
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:Jab anti-airs were "good" in 3s for entirely different reasons and trying to imply it's because jumpins had terrible hitboxes or the jabs themselves had good anti-air hitboxes is disingenuous as hell. Makoto has the best standing jab anti-air and the hitbox is barely above the hurtbox in her hand, and way below her head. Jumpins also had hitboxes that extended outward or below their hurtboxes and there wasn't a giant horizontal hurtbox slapped onto the bottom third of every jump attack just for the gently caress of it. Regardless of the reason, my point is that "jabs shouldn't work as an anti air" is a nonsense statement that doesn't take into account the entire context of the game. What exactly is the problem created by jabs anti airing in this game? You wish jumpins were harder to deal with? You feel jabs are overpowered?
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Mar 5, 2016 21:43
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I mean if you don't see whats boring about the majority of characters having braindead anti-airs and the dynamic of low risk jumpins that are also really bad. I'd prefer they buff jumpins and make anti-airs more situational (this could mainly be fixed by removing the giant hurtboxes from jumpins) but increasing the reward. Crush counters seem tailor made for it but they realized that with how terrible jumpins are, consistent crush counter anti-airs into a combo would be too good. The only character that really kept it was Dhalsim and its on an extremely situational button that you have to react with early and it's cool and good which is a rarity in this game. You could of course have "reliable" anti-air buttons that don't crush counter as well! You know, variety.
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Mar 5, 2016 22:05
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:I mean if you don't see whats boring about the majority of characters having braindead anti-airs and the dynamic of low risk jumpins that are also really bad. Reading this reminds me that, in the Zangief trailer, they showed Gief's crouching hard punch crush countering Bison into an ex air SPD. I was sad that at release, this was no longer a thing I could do. 
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Mar 5, 2016 22:10
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Is there any reason not to buffer 23232323 when waiting for a jump in with ryu? My reaction srk ability is dog crap but i nail them every time when im waggling the stick in advance and the opponent thinks im crouch blocking
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Mar 5, 2016 22:14
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Real hurthling! posted:Is there any reason not to buffer 23232323 when waiting for a jump in with ryu? My reaction srk ability is dog crap but i nail them every time when im waggling the stick in advance and the opponent thinks im crouch blocking Characters with decent pokes (Chun especially) are going to destroy you just by pressing buttons from their jump-in range.
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Mar 5, 2016 22:17
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Revelant posted:Here a question. The same thing is happening to me and my region isn't isolated at all, it's in the middle of loving Europe. I have a couple of friends with the same problem too. In my case I play with the same 3 guys (who I beat every time, and they disconnect on purpose every time) whenever I look for an opponent, can't ever connect to lounges, no one can ever connect to mine. It doesn't depend on the region, and it certainly doesn't depend on my NAT configuration since I've never had any issue in other peer to peer games/programs. I suppose Capcom hosed something up and now some NAT users just can't play SFV. Kawabata fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Mar 5, 2016 |
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Mar 5, 2016 22:27
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It's amazing to me that a month ago people were saying poo poo like this:Pomp posted:The dps also do piss damage when used as an antiair, half the anti-air normals are loving awful at their job, and the reward for doing either successfully is so low that there's almost no reason to not do random jump ins. But all of a sudden the threat of a jab is so much that there's no reason to ever jump. For a ton of characters, jab isn't even close to their best anti-air either.
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Mar 5, 2016 22:33
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If you love this game so much I figure you could make an actual argument instead of just being disingenuous as gently caress, quoting people who aren't me, and just straight making poo poo up.
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Mar 5, 2016 22:40
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:If you love this game so much I figure you could make an actual argument instead of just being disingenuous as gently caress, quoting people who aren't me, and just straight making poo poo up. 
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Mar 5, 2016 22:42
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Like do I really give a poo poo what Pomp says or said at one point, what the gently caress does that have to do with what I'm saying now and what is easily observable. Maybe you can try to understand what I'm saying instead of arguing against points other people made or things you just made up on the spot.
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Mar 5, 2016 22:43
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I'm Bebop
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:Like do I really give a poo poo what Pomp says or said at one point, what the gently caress does that have to do with what I'm saying now and what is easily observable. What exactly have I made up? I'm not sure it's worth arguing anymore since it's clear there's a large contingent in this thread who will happily glom onto any aspect of SF5 that's different from the previous games and insist that it's yet another piece of evidence the game is garbage, completely ignoring the context of V's mechanics.
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Mar 5, 2016 22:44
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I wish i could beat people higher ranked than me in ranked like i do in casual all the time.
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I dont see the problem honestly, New Generation was critically panned and no one wanted to play it over MK/vs/alpha/SF2 arcades. A large part of love for SF2 (at least in the casual fanbase) was rooted in refusal to switch to SF3. By the time 3S came out, arcades were all but dead in the mainstream eye. At least that's how I remember it. Just need to wait for the Alex update to see what we're in for in the long run as far as "finishing the game over the next few years" goes.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8vXYf8PYgc&t=53s
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Mar 5, 2016 22:52
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Real hurthling! posted:I wish i could beat people higher ranked than me in ranked like i do in casual all the time. Not to rain on your parade, but those people are probably learning new characters and aren't using their main. Also, this thread is a fuckin' garbage fire. Good job, idiots.
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Mar 5, 2016 22:58
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Sarchasm posted:Not to rain on your parade, but those people are probably learning new characters and aren't using their main. Nah theyre all lvl 15-20 with the char
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Sarchasm posted:Not to rain on your parade, but those people are probably learning new characters and aren't using their main. but you're also contributing to the garbage fire with posts like these though
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Mar 5, 2016 23:01
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General Morden posted:but you're also contributing to the garbage fire with posts like these though Why should everyone else have all the fun?
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Dr. Video Games 0112 posted:By the time 3S came out, arcades were all but dead in the mainstream eye. At least that's how I remember it. I never really understood this excuse for why sf3 didn't take off because sure arcades were toast in america but like, they weren't in asia right? What was stopping capcom from just thinking americans don't like street fighter anymore and releasing capcom fighting jam or w/e as japan only
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Sarchasm posted:Why should everyone else have all the fun? i mean if you're going to complain about the thread being poo poo and then actively contributing to it being poo poo then you probably shouldn't be complaining
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General Morden posted:i mean if you're going to complain about the thread being poo poo and then actively contributing to it being poo poo then you probably shouldn't be complaining I just want to see this thread turn into a compelling and competitive experience one day.
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Mar 5, 2016 23:08
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darealkooky posted:I never really understood this excuse for why sf3 didn't take off because sure arcades were toast in america but like, they weren't in asia right? What was stopping capcom from just thinking americans don't like street fighter anymore and releasing capcom fighting jam or w/e as japan only sf3 died in asia because that game loving sucks. it didnt get popular until the series was over and dead for years. edit: to extrapolate on this, nobody would pay a quarter to play these games and CPS3 boards cost a lot of quarters Zand fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Mar 5, 2016 |
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Mar 5, 2016 23:08
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SF3 was popular in America because it had cool characters like Q and Sean.
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If this game makes you so angry then perhaps it's Not For You.
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Mar 5, 2016 23:11
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noted funk machine Q
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:If you love this game so much I figure you could make an actual argument instead of just being disingenuous as gently caress, quoting people who aren't me, and just straight making poo poo up. lmao General Morden posted:but you're also contributing to the garbage fire with posts like these though Dumpster fires tend to attract idiots, so whatever... I guess. We're all idiots is what I'm saying. teagone fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Mar 5, 2016 |
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Zand posted:sf3 died in asia because that game loving sucks. it didnt get popular until the series was over and dead for years. why are there still tourneys for it then, do they see it under the same ironic mindset they do hokuto no ken
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Mar 5, 2016 23:16
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I like to play Street Fighter 5
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people i could play with online in sf4, i can no longer do so in sf5 great netcode capcom #riseup
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Help Im Alive posted:I like to play Street Fighter 5 can you give me some tips on how to do it
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btw when do we get to the point of this thread where people start making unfavorable comparisons with strekken 2013
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