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Veskit posted:Fine better question then is do you believe that we'll see anymore Ponyglyphs that aren't the road to Raftel ones? Yes? I'm not sure how you could think otherwise if you've been reading One Piece all this time. It's tied to Robin's personal goal and the first mate of the Pirate Kings crew said she should do exactly that before knowing what the Rio Poneglyph says.
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Asuron posted:Yes? I'm not sure how you could think otherwise if you've been reading One Piece all this time. It's tied to Robin's personal goal and the first mate of the Pirate Kings crew said she should do exactly that before knowing what the Rio Poneglyph says. I think technically Rayleigh advised Robin to read the Rio Poneglyph for herself since Roger et al couldn't actually read the language itself and just interpreted it through "hearing" it, so her conclusion won't be colored by what they found out.
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Asuron posted:Yes? I'm not sure how you could think otherwise if you've been reading One Piece all this time. It's tied to Robin's personal goal and the first mate of the Pirate Kings crew said she should do exactly that before knowing what the Rio Poneglyph says. Now I get the feeling we'll find the other 3 and then find some more on Raftel itself but I have a strong feeling we won't be hearing from non raftel related ones for another decade.
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alkanphel posted:Or Oda will find a way to collide Big Mom and Kaido's storylines together. I would be kinda surprised if this isn't the case
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DeadBonesBrook posted:Clover wasn't a Roger pirate (or at least hasn't been confirmed as one so far). All it took was a few scholars and a single Poneglyph for someone to crack the language, so it's not without the realm of possibility for others to learn how to do it again. There may also be a DF that lets people read any language. Roger couldn't read them but didn't need to, he had a weird ability that poo poo just talked to him without any effort on his part. He could even understand Sea Kings (like Luffy, who probably shares the entirety of this ability)
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Mar 5, 2016 08:45
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kypdjk posted:I am hoping that Jimbei returns and joins the strawhats bringing the fourth poneglyph as a gift! I think it is hilarious that nekomamushi says that "no one in their right minds would carry something like that around" because it immediately made me think of Jimbei during his cover story. That's a good point - and if the Yonkou are capable of possessing a road poneglyph, it's only fitting that the future pirate king should have one at some point as well.
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You don't need 4 of them. Three is enough. Start at one of the islands, and sail to the other. If that fails to find the island, do it again from the second island to the third. If that also fails, go from the third to the first. If this island is a traditional landmass above the water, congratulations, you should have found it by now.
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Mar 5, 2016 11:24
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Lpzie posted:You don't need 4 of them. Three is enough. Start at one of the islands, and sail to the other. If that fails to find the island, do it again from the second island to the third. If that also fails, go from the third to the first. If this island is a traditional landmass above the water, congratulations, you should have found it by now. If that was possible someone would have found Raftel by now. And even if it is, Luffy won't want a boring adventure like that.
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Mar 5, 2016 12:03
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Lpzie posted:You don't need 4 of them. Three is enough. Start at one of the islands, and sail to the other. If that fails to find the island, do it again from the second island to the third. If that also fails, go from the third to the first. If this island is a traditional landmass above the water, congratulations, you should have found it by now. We have no idea how far away the points are. They could be scattered all across the 4 blues for all we know and it's only the point they intersect that shows the location of Raftel.
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Mar 5, 2016 12:19
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Lpzie posted:You don't need 4 of them. Three is enough. Start at one of the islands, and sail to the other. If that fails to find the island, do it again from the second island to the third. If that also fails, go from the third to the first. If this island is a traditional landmass above the water, congratulations, you should have found it by now. That only works if they are close together. That almost certainly is not the case or Raftel would've been found by now
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dordreff posted:If that was possible someone would have found Raftel by now. And even if it is, Luffy won't want a boring adventure like that. Nobody but robin is capable of reading them though
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Jose posted:Nobody but robin is capable of reading them though Yes but if the islands are close together, it stands to reason that the intersection line between the four of them would've been found fairly easily.It makes more sense that the distance between islands is massive, because even on the Grand Line, it would be very possible to stumble across an island like that if the distance between the four is short.
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Asuron posted:Yes but if the islands are close together, it stands to reason that the intersection line between the four of them would've been found fairly easily.It makes more sense that the distance between islands is massive, because even on the Grand Line, it would be very possible to stumble across an island like that if the distance between the four is short. This also assumes that anyone who finds these poneglyphs would know what their purpose is. For all most people know, they're just big stone blocks and nothing more. That's why no one can find Raftel regardless of your method of triangulation or whatever.
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I think the "the points are far apart" is likely, because then Nami's goal of charting the entire sea and her mapmaking powers will tie into this also. And besides, the Poneglyph is just text from what we've seen, it looks like Robin had to read it then Nami interpreted the info into a map, so unles syou can read the thing, you'd never be able to determine where it points to. Your Dunkle Sans posted:I think technically Rayleigh advised Robin to read the Rio Poneglyph for herself since Roger et al couldn't actually read the language itself and just interpreted it through "hearing" it, so her conclusion won't be colored by what they found out. I thought it was that they only read the Rio Poneglyph and maybe a couple of others, whereas the Rio poneglyph needs the knowledge of all the rest to put into context? Incidentally, the reveal that some pirates and Yonkou are collecting copies of poneglyphs, there's a chance Robin could use those copies to catch up on any she may have missed.
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Also remember that the Grand Line and New World are unsailable waters and standard coordinates just plain dont work. It's the point of those Log Pose things, as an answer to the question 'why dont they just sail there'.
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Rogers' ability to hear inanimate objects was actually symptomatic of an inoperable brain tumor which he was dying from mixed with an unmatched bravado and confidence.
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Shoren posted:This also assumes that anyone who finds these poneglyphs would know what their purpose is. For all most people know, they're just big stone blocks and nothing more. That's why no one can find Raftel regardless of your method of triangulation or whatever. I was thinking more along the lines that people could stumble across the island without reading the poneglyphs and not know what they found if the distance between the four islands is short. It'd be something like how Burgess found Baltigo, eventually someone would make it there through circumstances like being shipwrecked on the shore or being thrown off course by weather if there were inhabitable islands people knew about within short distance even if they didn't have a Log Pose. Asuron fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Mar 5, 2016 |
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Mar 5, 2016 14:48
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Asuron posted:I was thinking more along the lines that people could stumble across the island without reading the poneglyphs and not know what they found if the distance between the four islands is short. You're right, my reply had nothing to do with your post! Still, remote islands have a way of being found despite the lack of technology or knowledge of it. Look at Easter Island, that's in the middle of nowhere, not even between known landmasses. There must be something special about it that requires the poneglyphs.
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Rohan Kishibe posted:I thought it was that they only read the Rio Poneglyph and maybe a couple of others, whereas the Rio poneglyph needs the knowledge of all the rest to put into context? Incidentally, the reveal that some pirates and Yonkou are collecting copies of poneglyphs, there's a chance Robin could use those copies to catch up on any she may have missed. Roger was dying and Rayleigh said they couldn't do anything with the knowledge they gained. Since they also didn't read all the other stones and know as much as Robin does, their knowledge was incomplete. So Rayleigh is both leaving the decision of whether to do something and what to do to them. Being able to hear the stones probably doesn't give you the same level of information as being able to read them(no telling when Oden joined up), and Robin is the only person who has been on a decades long mission to read them all.
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Even Oden might not have been able to read them well or at all, if his family had been engraving them as images rather than as a language. The message from Roger would imply otherwise, but it's not clear how knowledgeable Wano actually is about the Poneglyphs other than having carved them (presumably at someone's request?)
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kypdjk posted:I am hoping that Jimbei returns and joins the strawhats bringing the fourth poneglyph as a gift! I think it is hilarious that nekomamushi says that "no one in their right minds would carry something like that around" because it immediately made me think of Jimbei during his cover story. Only problem is that Jimbe's Poneglyph isn't the right color to be a Road Poneglyph.
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Gyges posted:Roger was dying and Rayleigh said they couldn't do anything with the knowledge they gained. Since they also didn't read all the other stones and know as much as Robin does, their knowledge was incomplete. So Rayleigh is both leaving the decision of whether to do something and what to do to them. Being able to hear the stones probably doesn't give you the same level of information as being able to read them(no telling when Oden joined up), and Robin is the only person who has been on a decades long mission to read them all. Did he say that? I watched the dub for Saodoby recently and I remember it being more like he knew everything and would tell Robin if she asked
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Sinners Sandwich posted:Did he say that? I watched the dub for Saodoby recently and I remember it being more like he knew everything and would tell Robin if she asked He tells her to draw her own conclusion after reading the Rio Poneglyph, which implies that the information isn't ironclad/complete. Like if at Raftel you learn that the world government gained their power by killing 4 metric tons of the cutest kittens and puppies in the world, an event that is repeated once a year, there's no other conclusion to draw other than kill those sons of bitches.
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Lpzie posted:You don't need 4 of them. Three is enough. Start at one of the islands, and sail to the other. If that fails to find the island, do it again from the second island to the third. If that also fails, go from the third to the first. If this island is a traditional landmass above the water, congratulations, you should have found it by now.  That's a pretty Ussop way of thinking, friend. Luffy's gonna catch 'em all!
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:
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Oda's face when Shonenjump editors warn him he needs to wrap up One Piece because health concerns
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Crazyeyes posted:Rogers' ability to hear inanimate objects was actually symptomatic of an inoperable brain tumor which he was dying from mixed with an unmatched bravado and confidence. Are you the guy who came up with all those super depressing realistic ends for all the characters. Like Franky dying while trying to turn himself into a cyborg via tetanus and massive infection
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So can we assume from the cover arc page that Sabo and the revolutionaries are okay despite Blackbeard's attack?
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Blackbeard hasn't attacked yet. There hasn't been enough time since Burgess got to the island and called Shiliew for them to have gotten there.
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Captain Invictus posted:Are you the guy who came up with all those super depressing realistic ends for all the characters. Whether he is or not I need to see these
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It was like 5 threads ago unfortunately. It was preeetty brutal.
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What if you've got to lock in all four of the stones at the four islands to open the entrace of Raftel up  Do people really think Oda didn't think of why you would absolutely need 4? Do you think he doesn't know how triangles work?
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RealFoxy posted:What if you've got to lock in all four of the stones at the four islands to open the entrace of Raftel up He doesn't know how electricity works, so why should we assume he knows how triangles work?
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RealFoxy posted:What if you've got to lock in all four of the stones at the four islands to open the entrace of Raftel up Hmmmm yes this seems like a thing that will happen after rad anime Garfield said that carrying the stones with you would be loving stupid
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HerraS posted:Hmmmm yes this seems like a thing that will happen after rad anime Garfield said that carrying the stones with you would be loving stupid This, but unironically. C'mon, it's Luffy. He gonna steal them poneglyphs.
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Is the point on the Zhou phono glyph it's own coordinate because Zhou is kind of mobile
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Sinners Sandwich posted:Is the point on the Zhou phono glyph it's own coordinate because Zhou is kind of mobile I never got the idea that any of the Road Poneglyphs point to where they are, otherwise if you knew what they were you wouldn't even need to translate them.
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Darth Walrus posted:This, but unironically. garfield saying you can't carry them is totally a chekov's gun or w/e, it's essentially setting yet another rule or expectation for luffy to smash thru
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