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Ragnarak posted:Are things so tied to Radium's Franken-VB that there's no way you can just go "gently caress it, we'll move everything to XenForo" or whatever? Remember when Jeff Atwood wanted to move the forums to discourse?
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We are all shaped in Lowtax's image. Amen.
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Mar 6, 2016 18:20
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It all sounds more and more like radium was just an elevator technician who fell into the job of fixing SA by accident. If you looked at his browser history I'm sure it would be 90% StackOverflow and php.net.
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Mar 6, 2016 18:44
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DEAR KENNETH e: His browser history is probably 90% pornhub and redtube which is why nothing ever got done.
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Mar 6, 2016 19:07
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Lowtax posted:I don't recall. I think I had to leave him a voice mail. He called a day or so afterwards and he wasn't freaked out, he said he saw it coming because I had been getting increasingly angry at him for "no reason," so he guessed it was going to happen. Ha. I half want to know how he's fairing at his government job. I suppose being face-to-face cuts down on the 'my icq has an anger detector ;P' and complete lack of response. By the way, cross post from another thread: Soylent Yellow posted:There used to be a backdoor through the paywall. You had to go into the leper's colony, then click on the link to someone's offending post. That would take you past the paywall. Is this loving true? Holy poo poo.
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Mar 6, 2016 19:12
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I wonder if radium was just kind of learning things as he went which led to his awful coding practices, or if he had previous experience doing the sort of work he was doing for SA while at Gamespy (but since nobody except a select group of computer shamans knew anything about coding, he got away with godawful coding practices)
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Ragnarak posted:Are things so tied to Radium's Franken-VB that there's no way you can just go "gently caress it, we'll move everything to XenForo" or whatever? Franken-VB doesn't even matter, these forums are a product of their evolution. Forum software is pretty basic(and not that complicated really), you're never going to find something new that covers 100% of the current feature set. SomethingAwful is a mature(haha) product with it's own unique features and requirements, you're going to be writing large sections of code any way you slice it. Switching to something else is tantamount to a rewrite. Starting with the schema, you'd have to make the decision to either migrate the schema over to a new one(which means you need approximately twice the amount of disk space you currently use) or rewrite and adapt large sections of the new code to the old schema. From there, it just snowballs into a hell project just to get back to where you were when you started. It's much better and more pragmatic to take the path ZDR is taking of slowly moving things over to better systems over time.
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Mar 6, 2016 19:21
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Zzulu posted:ur such a goon You're allowed to be anti-social if you have a family imo
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Doghouse posted:You're allowed to be anti-social if you have a family imo it's actually required
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fyi lowtax you don't ask a coder to estimate when they'll finish "everything" especially a coder like radium who excelled at coming up with new ideas beyond what he could do. defining what to deliver (even in high-level terms) when always comes before defining when
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Gazpacho posted:fyi lowtax you don't ask a coder to estimate when they'll finish "everything" especially a coder like radium who excelled at coming up with new ideas beyond what he could do. defining what to deliver (even in high-level terms) when always comes before defining when
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Mar 6, 2016 20:16
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What's the worst gently caress-up he ever did? Like something that truly, monumentally, pissed you right the gently caress off?
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Mar 6, 2016 20:26
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When the store wasn't working recently I felt bad for ZDR, like I hope lowtax isn't too mad at him, then I read this stuff and understood that ZDR probably explain what was going on and Lowtax probably was just very happy with being told what was happening
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Mar 6, 2016 20:31
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"The store will be back Rich as soon as I shave this yak"
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Mar 6, 2016 20:35
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spankmeister posted:"The store will be back Rich as soon as I shave this yak" "Please leave my family out of it, I'm going as fast as I can! They've done nothing to you!"
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Mar 6, 2016 20:45
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Eonwe posted:When the store wasn't working recently I felt bad for ZDR, like I hope lowtax isn't too mad at him, then I read this stuff and understood that ZDR probably explain what was going on and Lowtax probably was just very happy with being told what was happening
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Mar 6, 2016 20:50
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Zen Death Robot, how much of your billable time is spent kicking back on your couch playing Xbox knowing you can just blame Radium for any and all delays to the things Lowtax has asked you to do?
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Mar 6, 2016 20:56
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Wasn't there another guy working on the website pretty recently? I thought he was suppose to be cool and good edit: Radiums enemy. Who is that guy George H.W. Cunt fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Mar 6, 2016 |
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Mar 6, 2016 20:57
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Lack of Gravitas posted:Zen Death Robot, how much of your billable time is spent kicking back on your couch playing Xbox knowing you can just blame Radium for any and all delays to the things Lowtax has asked you to do? http://www.design.caltech.edu/erik/Misc/Prepare_3_Envelopes.html
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Mar 6, 2016 21:06
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dad gay. so what posted:its more common than you would think (coding "in the moment instead of seeing the big picture") most autistic drug addicts have a hard time with this. its more of an aquired skill (being a drug addict) This guy is right. Moment coding means you just have to get it up and then hopefully never have to deal with it except in the case of security. I am pretty sure that I can still negotiate back to sslv2 or tls 1.1 (which has some ssl in it since it was a transitional implementation) and the server will still be okay
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Mar 6, 2016 21:06
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EVIR Gibson posted:This guy is right. Moment coding means you just have to get it up and then hopefully never have to deal with it except in the case of security. If your openssl is up to date you can't anymore.
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Mar 6, 2016 21:09
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Lowtax can you give me some cool thing
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Mar 6, 2016 21:20
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Zzulu posted:Lowtax can you give me some cool thing Would you like my grimey drawers?
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Mar 6, 2016 21:25
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Last night I dreamed that radium was in the national news and the only picture they had of himwas the one where he's in a goatse pose but it turned out that pic was a still from a video where he was doing explosive spurts into a fountain of some sort. The fountain is the forum systems
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Mar 6, 2016 21:43
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SaltLick posted:Wasn't there another guy working on the website pretty recently? I thought he was suppose to be cool and good Volte.
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spankmeister posted:If your openssl is up to date you can't anymore. I've seen a server still running Windows 95 because it worked. It was built to ruin the LCD screen but still network accessible. Clients said it was on an entirely internal network but there was an ethernet jack behind a bench next to it that allow a person onto the network. What I am saying is usually when you see one significant problem with anything related to the system (code, hardware, software) there are probably many other things wrong. I found something wrong concerning the forum and waiting for a response from lowtax about it. EVIL Gibson fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Mar 6, 2016 |
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Gazpacho posted:Last night I dreamed that radium was in the national news and the only picture they had of himwas the one where he's in a goatse pose but it turned out that pic was a still from a video where he was doing explosive spurts into a fountain of some sort. The fountain is the forum systems That is an interesting dream
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Lowtax, throw the forums code up on github and let the cavern of cobol nerds take a crack at it, even if they cannot fix it, they might be able to mine it for nuggets of comedy gold.
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Lowtax posted:Eh, I just do what I find enjoyable and don't worry about what other people think of it. I just don't have much interest in doing social stuff like going to bars or out to watch a sports game or that crud. Yeah I'm a goon and a recluse and an antisocial loser but hey, that's how it is.
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32MB OF ESRAM posted:just started nodding in agreement as this post went on same
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TTerrible posted:The best of cargo cult devops. You nailed it: "Cargo cult programming is a style of computer programming characterized by the ritual inclusion of code or program structures that serve no real purpose. Cargo cult programming is typically symptomatic of a programmer not understanding either a bug they were attempting to solve or the apparent solution (compare shotgun debugging, deep magic).[1] The term cargo cult programmer may apply when an unskilled or novice computer programmer (or one inexperienced with the problem at hand) copies some program code from one place to another with little or no understanding of how it works or whether it is required in its new position. Cargo cult programming can also refer to the results of applying a design pattern or coding style blindly without understanding the reasons behind that design principle. Examples are adding unnecessary comments to self-explanatory code, adding deletion code for objects that garbage collection would have collected automatically, and creating factories to build simple objects." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult_programming
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Bitter Mushroom posted:nerds love to apply the words 'cargo cult' to every conceivable thing I was going on having a secondary db server with no db on it and a backup system that didn't do any backups, like ritual appeasements to the computing god.
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Bitter Mushroom posted:nerds love to apply the words 'cargo cult' to every conceivable thing
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Bitter Mushroom posted:nerds love to apply the words 'cargo cult' to every conceivable thing Gazpacho fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Mar 7, 2016 |
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KARMA! posted:I've never seen radium's face 
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KARMA! posted:I've never seen radium's face
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I really wanna know what happened with GAMEFAN not paying up God please I must know
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Keg posted:I wonder if radium was just kind of learning things as he went which led to his awful coding practices, or if he had previous experience doing the sort of work he was doing for SA while at Gamespy (but since nobody except a select group of computer shamans knew anything about coding, he got away with godawful coding practices) People saying things like this are naive as gently caress and you've probably never run into anything like this in your work history. I've seen this kind of empire building many times and there's nothing innocent about what went on in the chatlogs Lowtax has been posting.
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