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I should note that Scarecrow has done more damage right now then Joker ever did. Scarecrow while he shares some spotlight is the main villain and is still pretty awesome, his speeches are also pretty cool. Scarecrow posted:Scarecrow: "Remnants of Gotham: I have messages for you all. To the vandals who stayed behind to pick the still-warm flesh from Gotham's bones: have your fun. You are under my protection. To the cowards quaking behind the police department's walls: you will not be spared. And to Batman: I have already won. Emptied your city with a vial of toxin and a few threatening words. That's how little the safety you provided was worth. And when the dawn comes, when Gotham lies in ruins and I turn my gaze to the world beyond, the legend of the Batman will be worth nothing at all."
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Joke's on him, time is eternally stuck in the exact same millisecond until Batman finishes his quest in these games, so at this rate dawn will never come!
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Discendo Vox posted:Ra's blood was never presented as definitely offering a cure. Batman was also exposed to much more of Joker's blood than others. Um yes it totally was, Freeze was like "this formula will fix Joker's TITAN bullshit but I just need this one enzyme..." Then Bats goes "oh hey I know a weird mystical man who has that in his blood brb", then post Ra's fight, Freeze makes two vials of cure then goes "JOKER HAS MY WIFE" and crushes the first vial of cure like a loving prick, because that's a good way to get Batman on your side and not a fist through your helmet. Then at the end of the game after he recovers the other vial, Batman only drinks half of the cure because as he tells Joker, he was going to save him, except Joker stabbed Batman in the chest like a loving idiot and made him drop the other half of the miracle cure on the ground. (There's a quick synopsis of the back half of Arkham City if you've never played it, kids!  )So really Batman has Joker-itis because he didn't drink his medicine in the last game, or that's how I read it at least. CJacobs posted:It's the Batman of Zur-En- 
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Mar 8, 2016 08:15
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CJacobs posted:Joke's on him, time is eternally stuck in the exact same millisecond until Batman finishes his quest in these games, so at this rate dawn will never come! He's just also a loose cannon.
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Mar 8, 2016 10:03
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TwoPair posted:Um yes it totally was, Freeze was like "this formula will fix Joker's TITAN bullshit but I just need this one enzyme..."
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Mar 8, 2016 10:17
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Mooseontheloose posted:Isn't that Green Arrow? e: In somewhat-related topics, is it just me or is the Flash show kinda... boring? I enjoyed (first two seasons of) Arrow well enough because there was some kind of mystery going on but here it's obvious who the bad guy is since the first episode. anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 11:58 on Mar 8, 2016 |
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Mar 8, 2016 11:55
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anilEhilated posted:Is it? I only know the show, but aren't they both capitalist pigdogs who think they're above the law because they are rich? Arrow in the live-action show is Batman With A Bow. The Green Arrow in the comics is definitely a "Rah rah for the people!" Marxist hero, or at least he was. I have no idea if that's still the case.
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Mar 8, 2016 14:55
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The cure was to fix the Titan poisoning, not whatever other weird stuff came with Joker's blood.
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Mar 8, 2016 15:06
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FicusArt posted:The thing about frustrating or problematic tropes, or any, really, is they can be as internally logical as the writer wants. The writer has full control over the story and can weave it however they'd like to make an outcome completely make sense.  Also holy poo poo I forgot Stephanie had her own Batmobile as Batgirl:  Look at it. LOOK AT IT. It's adorable!  Goddamn, I would pay good money for a game where you zoom around Gotham in an armoured Eggplant Mini Cooper. It puts this game's Batmobile to shame.
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Polaron posted:Arrow in the live-action show is Batman With A Bow. The Green Arrow in the comics is definitely a "Rah rah for the people!" Marxist hero, or at least he was. I have no idea if that's still the case. He's always been depicted as very left leaning, yeah - he was written as a more socially conscious hero. The team-ups with him and The Question were always solid gold. I'm on my phone or i'd post the pic of an old african american guy going "man you keep helping the purple people or the green people off with the other super heroes, but what have you done for the black, red, brown, and yellow people here?"
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Posting this a little bit early 'cause I got places to be. Fighting Firefighter Fighters/PolsyNew profile(s): Chief Underhill New stories: Fixation, Wonder Tower, Just Jack, Poison Chalice Race 6: 2008 - Cataclysm/Polsy For those of you who are angry about the Joker popping up and comic book science and all the other crap, bear with me. I for one like the way Joker is used here, when I was first playing he didn't feel as obtrusive as in Arkham City and Arkham Origins. There's SO much more in this game to get angry about. Trust me, we'll get there. dscruffy1 fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Mar 8, 2016 |
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Mar 8, 2016 17:51
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Your links are still pointing at Episode 7.
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Kurieg posted:Your links are still pointing at Episode 7. Whoops. Fixed it.
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dscruffy1 posted:There's SO much more in this game to get angry about. Trust me, we'll get there. I'm rather curious which things in particular upset or disappointed you.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I'm rather curious which things in particular upset or disappointed you. There's one thing that really pissed me off but we haven't gotten to it yet; given how fast dscruff is going we'll probably hit it in a few videos.
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"Now this, this is some top of the line gear!" Says the recorded voice of Aaron Cash as you investigate the alcove in the militia section of the evidence locker that is devoted entirely to wooden baseball bats.
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Mar 8, 2016 18:41
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The Evidence Room is cool, though I always found it odd that Batman lets the GCPD keep his REC and Shock Gloves.
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Mar 8, 2016 19:10
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The people who are becoming Joker are becoming it via Prion? So, mad Joker disease instead of mad Cow disease? Regardless, if Robin is trying to find a cure quickly, he really has his work cut out for him, modern medicine has failed to cure Prion for almost 100 years by now.
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Crystalgate posted:The people who are becoming Joker are becoming it via Prion? So, mad Joker disease instead of mad Cow disease? Regardless, if Robin is trying to find a cure quickly, he really has his work cut out for him, modern medicine has failed to cure Prion for almost 100 years by now. Mad Clown Disease.
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Crigit posted:"Now this, this is some top of the line gear!" Says the recorded voice of Aaron Cash as you investigate the alcove in the militia section of the evidence locker that is devoted entirely to wooden baseball bats. Now, now, there's also some police-issue batons. E: I'm really appreciating how all the races look like movie sets. Philippe fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Mar 8, 2016 |
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Mar 8, 2016 19:36
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I get the feeling it's only raining in this game so they can show off how awesome wet things look with next gen graphics. And to be fair, they do.
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My favourite part about the Dark Knight race tracks is the constant blue-screens in around the course for the CG to get put in later. If gives the whole track a (justified) unfinished look. The '66 Tracks are just pure joy to watch, as a fond trip down memory lane for all the little bits where you can go "I remember that!". And the '88 tracks have the glorious music that makes everything 'Batman'.
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Mar 8, 2016 19:45
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Seeing Batman field-strip a gun in the middle of battle doesn't get old. I love it.
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Reading the profiles for the for Mad Clown Disease victims Batman locked up (in the OP). If Johnny Charisma has Joker's showmanship, Christina has his obsession with the Bat, and Albert has his violence, what if Henry is actually embodying the last shred of sanity the Joker had? Similar to Harleen's voice inside Harley - all the guilt and the fear, shoved to one side. And what does that leave Bruce? The psychosis? The compulsiveness? Would Batman have told Gordon about Barbara's kidnapping and her working for him if he didn't have the phantom Joker egging him on? How many of these unfortunate bat-decisions are going to be guided by, or blamed upon, the smiling devil now sitting on Bats' shoulder?
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What's funny is that I also got the REC as soon as you can enter the Police Department. I don't even know what compelled me to punch the glass. I got the game at launch, so I was playing it blind. Something just told me to take a swing, so when the glass broke I was like "Well....poo poo." And of course I spent minute or so punching every other case in the GCPD.
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Mar 8, 2016 20:02
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The tape Jack Ryder was listening to mentioned "wall of fat" in the sewers, which I found out are actually real.
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IMJack posted:Reading the profiles for the for Mad Clown Disease victims Batman locked up (in the OP). If Johnny Charisma has Joker's showmanship, Christina has his obsession with the Bat, and Albert has his violence, what if Henry is actually embodying the last shred of sanity the Joker had? Similar to Harleen's voice inside Harley - all the guilt and the fear, shoved to one side. I suspect that dude is gonna be the final boss of the game and have all of Joker's evil or some poo poo. He's gonna go all Titan monstrosity and end up being a big dumb boss fight to punch in the face.
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akulanization posted:I don't know, Oracle's not physically helpless, but I'd like to think that since she knows that she probably can't beat an endless horde of mooks in a fightfight she would be smart enough to bide her time for when she can do something that'll make a difference. No point in getting knocked out when you could instead know where you are and begin to plot an escape or something. While it has nothing to do with what I've quoted, I don't see how they've made oracle look helpless. She's physically disabled, but she's willingly put herself at risk because she wants to help and believes she can make a difference. That's strength, even if it isn't the kind that lets you punch people. And there's always the chance she could discover something that leads to the discovery of the Knight's identity or a way to stop whatever they have planned. She can certainly kick rear end with her escrima sticks, but her real strength has always been her brain. She arguably has far more to gain by going with the Knight's troops, willingly or not, than by fighting them off.
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I see now why you're not impressed with the 2008 tracks. They're kind of samey where the others are brightly colored and have nice set pieces. It wasn't immediately clear to me that this wasn't the same Tumbler track you already did.
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IMJack posted:And what does that leave Bruce? The psychosis? The compulsiveness? Would Batman have told Gordon about Barbara's kidnapping and her working for him if he didn't have the phantom Joker egging him on? Probably the psychosis. We don't know how much Joker-itis the others have, but whereas the others seem to be encompassing traits, Batman is seeing the actual Joker who speaks exactly like the original. After all, Batman would understand the Joker better than anyone else. That being said, there also seems to be the implication that Joker Hallucination is vocalizing Bruce's insecurities, so telling Gordon was likely his own choice. He just feels awful about it and JH is making it worse.
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Kaboom Dragoon posted:And there's always the chance she could discover something that leads to the discovery of the Knight's identity or a way to stop whatever they have planned. She can certainly kick rear end with her escrima sticks, but her real strength has always been her brain. She arguably has far more to gain by going with the Knight's troops, willingly or not, than by fighting them off. There's some incidental Knight troop dialogue I recall that indicates she did beat hell out of a bunch of them with said escrima sticks before the Knight himself grabbed her. As can be expected, the Knight is good enough to go up against Batman directly (I expect this is a non-spoiler to everyone reading here) so I don't really feel like it makes Barbara come off weak to lose to him. In any event I seriously doubt she would be willing to risk getting captured even for intel, it's just too suicidally risky.
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Oh, something that Aaron Cash mentioned in a couple of the evidence room voice overs: He keeps referring to letting villains go and he's talking about how in the aftermath of Protocol 10, the GCPD was forced to exonerate all of the inmates due to the massive miscarriage of justice that was Arkham City. I'm not clear on whether or not that would fly in real life but then again, Arkham City wouldn't have flown in real life either. This also ties in to how suspiciously quiet the city has been. It's not just that crime's taken a downturn - it's that every single high profile criminal in Gotham has been free for months and not a single one of them have done anything of note (that anyone's aware of anyway).
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God what a dick, breaking the glass cases in the PD like that. Could have just used the bat glass cutter, bat lock pick, or bat electronic lock picker. edit : Hell just ask and get the key. Also Cash deserves a Robot hand. PhazonLink fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Mar 9, 2016 |
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Speedball posted:Seeing Batman field-strip a gun in the middle of battle doesn't get old. I love it. For me, it's Batman punching a guy through the window on his shield, then bending the shield into uselessness.
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Batman can never be kind to anyone. Not even his allies, apparently. Like, seriously, I can give being a dick to his enemies a pass, even grudgingly in the case of people like Mr. Freeze. But is there any benefit to coming across as a jerk to the people he cooperates with? Then again, given that he's good at practically EVERYTHING else, I suppose it makes sense to give him some kind of character flaw. On a related glass breaking note, I love how no one questions how Riddler got a trophy into the GCPD. Riddler is practically Batman himself at this point.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:On a related glass breaking note, I love how no one questions how Riddler got a trophy into the GCPD. Riddler is practically Batman himself at this point. The Joker visions are actually the Riddler hacking into Batman's fancy goggles to gently caress with his head.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:On a related glass breaking note, I love how no one questions how Riddler got a trophy into the GCPD. Riddler is practically Batman himself at this point. On the one hand, it's fun to imagine that Riddler is so good he can sneak a trophy into the police station and noone questions it. But what if it went the other way? What if Riddler's trophies are getting so lazy that a random cop found one and brought it back himself? Or maybe it's something really boring like Riddler sent it to the cops with a note that said "Hold onto this for Batman, would you?"
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I personally kinda like the idea that the Riddler dropped it off outside the GCPD with a "whatever you do, don't let Batman get this" note, and they were like "Uhhhh...... is this mindgames or is this real? poo poo... let's just put it in evidence lockup and hope Batman does or doesn't get it and we don't have to deal with the crazy guy."
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:The Joker visions are actually the Riddler hacking into Batman's fancy goggles to gently caress with his head.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:On a related glass breaking note, I love how no one questions how Riddler got a trophy into the GCPD. Riddler is practically Batman himself at this point. Wasn't there an entire comics series where Riddler realized he needed help and turned into an incredibly competent private detective because he is actually incredibly smart, just crazy as gently caress?
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