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LuciferMorningstar posted:Don't half-rear end poo poo. Contrast that to Spotter, which is much easier to obtain, infinitely usable, and you get other useful skills along the way. The trip mines have a range/LoS bonus, sure, but they can also get destroyed, so that seems like a wash to me. They don't stack up well at all. It sounds less like your complaint is "the Tech tree needs a rework" and more "Trip Mines suck the large fat one" which is what I've been saying this entire time, but you don't seem to listen.
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YET ANOTHER FAG posted:On a sort of more serious note the trouble with Technician is not only that it's (almost) never(?) had any sort of rebalance to the best of my knowledge.
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Skunkrocker posted:It sounds less like your complaint is "the Tech tree needs a rework" and more "Trip Mines suck the large fat one" which is what I've been saying this entire time, but you don't seem to listen. The two claims are entirely complimentary.
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Mar 8, 2016 21:06
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Quick and dirty buff to tripmines, 10% chance to regain a mine every time you pick up an ammo box. Boom, done.
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Mar 8, 2016 21:26
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Not even that, just guarantee one trip mine after using an ammo box but limit it to x number per heist. Also you should be able to carry way more. Like 12 trip mines. That would be lovely.
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Mar 8, 2016 21:50
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literally the only reason to take technician was for the headshot damage tier bonus but with the advent of perk decks the only points i ever put in it (if any) is nerves of steel and maaaaaaaaaybe sharpshooter basic
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Mar 8, 2016 22:07
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shockproof and bulletproof are V Gud and so are drill skills (ace all of them except for silent drilling)
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Mar 8, 2016 23:56
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I'd like to see the Technician tree get some skills that basically modify how your weapon performs. I assume a Technician would tinker with that junk. Someone mentioned reloading explosives faster and explosive resistance, and I think those are good ideas. But also stuff like chance for bullet penetration, Mag Plus not being at the top of the drat tree, maybe a concealment bonus for some class of weapons, I dunno. Anything to give Tech more synergy with other trees beyond "get Bulletproof and ICTV."
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Mar 9, 2016 00:09
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Just as a headsup, Ulf Andersson's new company 10 Chambers Collective has started sending emails out on their "Ambassadors" mailing list- I just signed up for it, so I'll share any info I get with the thread if it's something worth knowing/mocking.
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Mar 9, 2016 00:10
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Technician just needs to condense its existing garbage fire of a skill layout with drills, turrets, mines and shockproof and get a lot more tricks up its sleeve with either weapons (like adding explosive damage to guns or amplifying and improving the performance of existing boomers) or more traps and toys to deploy in the field. It already has the ability to take two deployables in the field, its just unfortunately a poo poo show of a selection between a limited number of C4 blocks or a turret that gets hosed by shields and winters. So it should at least be able to be turned into a drone to fly around the shield and get revenge. It has little to no use in modern stealth, so just play up its loud capability.
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Mar 9, 2016 00:42
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all this talk of "technician this, technician that", i dont give a gently caress i just want a melee-oriented skill tree
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Mar 9, 2016 00:47
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BillmasterCozb posted:all this talk of "technician this, technician that", i dont give a gently caress Sociopath exists, what more do you want
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Mar 9, 2016 00:54
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Hector's greatest failure and the only thing I'm looking forward to with a Killing Floor crossover. If The Dragon is ever made and put into KF2 that is. What I want is to fist of the north star cops. Jabbing them with a flag pole isn't enough, I want to punch them and get distance with good hits. I want to duke boot a Cloaker in his face. I want to hear Chains make this noise as I drop kick a pig to death. Crabtree fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Mar 9, 2016 |
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Mar 9, 2016 00:55
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Dr Cheeto posted:Sociopath exists, what more do you want I want to run while charging a melee attack, especially if the characters scream while doing so 
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Mar 9, 2016 01:00
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BillmasterCozb posted:I want to run while charging a melee attack, especially if the characters scream while doing so I already feel like I'm making some sort of cavalry charge when I use the flag, sprinting at the same time would be hilarious.
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Mar 9, 2016 01:02
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https://gfycat.com/ZestyGlisteningIndianelephant
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Mar 9, 2016 07:01
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I don't play enough hotline: if the barcode is rockets or minks,etc will any rocket barcode or mink work or only one of them work? I've never seen the first correct barcode fail.
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Mar 9, 2016 07:08
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swims posted:I don't play enough hotline: if the barcode is rockets or minks,etc will any rocket barcode or mink work or only one of them work? I've never seen the first correct barcode fail. Any.
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Mar 9, 2016 07:15
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Quick buff to Technician: Step 1.) Make tripe mines a grenade that only Techs have access to instead of a separate deployable. Step 2.) Give Techs a small% chance to get back grenades. Step 3.) Make C4 a separate deployable rather than "turn your tripmines into C4" which is dumb. Step 4.) Give Techs the ability to trigger their tripmines remotely instead of with a laser. Done.
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Mar 9, 2016 07:20
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Tripe mines are a good name considering they turn those pigs inside out.
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Mar 9, 2016 07:37
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Thanks Tech tree ideas make sentries moveable. Ace= player controllable or at least if you mark a special you can change the fire direction. Kilmer or something on par. Something like smg quick sight+ stability. ace= run reload + movement increase in accuracy. High level skill to replenish asset bags with current inventory/ downs remaining, not applicable to player placed bags. Ace= Move them. Tracking device you can put on an uncuffed civ. Call it blackmail or something and basic gives you a random but possibly significant instant cash or rarely offshore bonus (someone like scientist would be more than random civ and possibly huge offshore). ace = makes them able to trade even if they get off the map. Would not be a new equipment. Limit 1 max.
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Mar 9, 2016 08:20
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To be honest I'm kind of surprised Kilmer is in the Mastermind tree at all, what with them saying that its all about pistols. And then suddenly a rifle focused skill outside of the tree that's supposed to have rifle skills.
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Mar 9, 2016 09:23
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The modder buddiez I mentioned before are now testing a full-fledged level editor. In-game. You can drop in and out of gameplay with it. 
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Possible fixes for the tech tree: 1/3= 4 point Aced skill. 4/8= 12 point Aced skill. Not all skill used Uncouple C4 from trip mines. Using C4 to open thing no longer uses up trip mines. Skill should be placed just above drill as they are effectively another drill and it also means for AT one person carrying C4 would be enough. Reduced deploy speed unless Aced 4/8 Collapse the trip mine tree to consume less skill points. 16? Double trrip mines. 4/8 Collapse the sentry tree to consume less skill points. 24? Sentry no longer fires on shields. Ever. Possibly move or duplicate the saw skill to Tech tree so the Tech tree is the master of opening things quickly. 1/3 Possible skills to replace collapsed trees: Sentry becomes a drone that fires on marked targets, mounts a sniper rifle? No longer deployes sentries. Limited ammo that needs refilling, batteries needs recharging. 4/8 Double throwables. 1/3 Skill giving shield piercing chance on all weapons. Ace increase chance plus chance to pierce normal enemies. 4/8 Interact with objectives fast. 1/3 Allows modding of grenade launchers to firer canister/Fletchett ammo, increases ammo pool slightly, pickup increased. Ace increase reload speed. Works with piercing skill. 4/8 Enforcer Saw skill replaced by improved reload speed if saw moved to tech, maybe lower on tree. 1/3 Saw consumes reduced ammo, aced consumes not ammo. 4/8 Improved CTV/ICTV move speed. 4/8 Double bag carrying at reduced speed. 1/3? Triple/Quadruple bags, slower movement but more armour while carrying bags. 4/8 C4 Titan safes? 4/8 arrangement of tree would require extensive testing. Other trees might need tweaking to make them cooler/better to use and increase opportunity cost to balance out improved tech tree. Likely causing more power creep.
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Overkill pleeeeeeeeease make this the next tie-in DLC with these 2 idiots being a new Contact  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uvKw1b7bxM
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Basticle posted:Overkill pleeeeeeeeease make this the next tie-in DLC with these 2 idiots being a new Contact more likely you're gonna get this instead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_Rmj_rtWlo I would watch the adventures of Chains talking to a fake John Wick over an earpiece for 2 hours over this, that's for drat sure
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Mar 9, 2016 18:14
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I keep wanting to have a copshoot with goons but I'm in the overwatch beta so I'm occupied with that.
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FAUXTON posted:I keep wanting to have a copshoot with goons but I'm in the overwatch beta so I'm occupied with that. How is it?
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I just played a random DW game of FWB. Host used a mod to increase cloaker and dozer spawns just a tiny bit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oITPwHqkqHY BTW, never use infinite ammo as your song if you want to make ad money on Youtube. A copyright owner using Content ID claimed some material in your video. quote:This is just a heads up
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Mar 10, 2016 09:03
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Shooting Blanks posted:How is it? A hell of a lot of fun
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Mar 10, 2016 13:35
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http://steamcommunity.com/gid/103582791433980119/announcements/detail/877446168725459670 new update, lots of fixes and changes, including THEY SHUT UP BAIN ON FRAMING FRAME 3
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Mar 10, 2016 16:31
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Kikas posted:THEY SHUT UP BAIN ON FRAMING FRAME 3 uninstalling
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I am not feeling that new main menu right off the bat. Its still just a beta thing but no thanks. I'd rather have simple and understandable words instead of crime app options.
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Mar 10, 2016 16:39
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Skill tree revamp open beta incoming. 
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 •Removed the random chance to spawn the meth lab. It will now always spawn on all difficulties on The Bomb: Dockyard Job
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quote:The new Skill Trees will be easier to navigate, there’ll be more room for different combinations and way more effective skills! Huh. Lucifer got his wish.
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Mar 10, 2016 16:45
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watho posted:Skill tree revamp open beta incoming. Yeah, once that beta ends and it hits live, I might actually come play this game some more.
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I'm currently busy with studies and grim dawn but a good skill revamp will probably pull me back into the copshooting.
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Tempest_56 posted:
Between this, the potential rebirth of skills and pressing insert to paste clipboards into chat, its like the last game's old flaws are going away. Will I even recognize the game when I get back?
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quote:Fixed an issue related to the AI pathing causing enemies to have problems finding the players on the First World Bank Job No more 30 minute naps in the back of FWB while doing an Overdrill, guys
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