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moonshine is......
Feb 21, 2007

:bsdsnype:

Soricidus posted:

it's really not that bad. i'm pretty sure i've made fewer customizations to my emacs setup than to, say, my eclipse setup; it's just easier to see because it's all in one place in a form intended for human editing

i guess there's some stuff like custom modes for some obscure/proprietary file formats that took a fair bit of work to set up, but that's the kind of thing that's literally impossible to do in most editors beyond trivial context-free syntax highlighting, so ... oh ok i'm a huge nerd i admit it are you happy now

https://github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=vimrc sooo many rc files, of course once you get one of those that's the baseline for expansion. i know a guy who is in the process of building some insane rc file so that he can have the functionality of sublime text i guess? it does other things too, but he's got a lot of time into it. the solution is use eclipse or sublimetext imo.

i get the enjoyment factor of tinkering around with it. it's just not my bag.

edited to include the sniiiper.

moonshine is...... fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Mar 10, 2016

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Apocadall
Mar 25, 2010

Aren't you the guitarist for the feed dogs?

i'm taking a linux class that he requires us to use vim and learn a large amount of the shortcuts and we're required to do everything from ssh and command line. first project for the semester is writing a kernel module for an afsk modulated signal

the one thing i've learned from the class for sure is i never ever want to use linux as my daily driver

pram
Jun 10, 2001
qq moar little bitch

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene
i hate tinkering with editor / terminal poo poo. my bazillion year old emacs config recently crossed the 100 line mark

the less time i can spend configuring things the more time i can spend working

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Apocadall posted:

i'm taking a linux class that he requires us to use vim and learn a large amount of the shortcuts and we're required to do everything from ssh and command line. first project for the semester is writing a kernel module for an afsk modulated signal

the one thing i've learned from the class for sure is i never ever want to use linux as my daily driver

lol at using the command line for all development`

moonshine is......
Feb 21, 2007

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

i hate tinkering with editor / terminal poo poo. my bazillion year old emacs config recently crossed the 100 line mark

the less time i can spend configuring things the more time i can spend working

this is correct. unfortunately that work is probably for *nix thing. so the cycle continues.
:getin:

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

lol at using the command line for all development`

No poo poo. I would go insane without a IDE while working on the kernel. Jesus Christ gently caress your teacher. :negative:

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

Apocadall posted:

i'm taking a linux class that he requires us to use vim

sever

SYSV Fanfic
Sep 9, 2003

by Pragmatica

Apocadall posted:

i'm taking a linux class that he requires us to use vim and learn a large amount of the shortcuts and we're required to do everything from ssh and command line. first project for the semester is writing a kernel module for an afsk modulated signal

the one thing i've learned from the class for sure is i never ever want to use linux as my daily driver

Welcome to one of the essential freedoms of GNU/Linux - the freedom from productivity.

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

moonshine is...... posted:

:bsdsnype:


edited to include the sniiiper.

mods ban this sick filth

mekkanare
Sep 12, 2008
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pram posted:

:q! moar little bitch

also just type vimtutor in your shell

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

mekkanare posted:

also just type export EDITOR=emacs; export VISUAL=emacs in your shell

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer
if youre using linux and youre not AT LEAST 50% of the time in the terminal then idk why youre using linux tbvh

ahmeni
May 1, 2005

It's one continuous form where hardware and software function in perfect unison, creating a new generation of iPhone that's better by any measure.
Grimey Drawer
editor wars are the best because they're an easy litmus test for insufferable people

jony neuemonic
Nov 13, 2009

i like vim but emacs is just fine too.

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

jony neuemonic posted:

i like vim but emacs is just fine too.

hmm thats pretty cool. i like to jack my dick off until a tepid load of inert cum leaks out and into my computer

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

Smythe posted:

hmm thats pretty cool. i like to jack my dick off until a tepid load of inert cum leaks out and into my computer

ah, a yi user

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

ahmeni posted:

editor wars are the best because they're an easy litmus test for insufferable people

hello

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope

ahmeni posted:

yospos posting is the best because it's an easy litmus test for insufferable people

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

hello

My Linux Rig
Mar 27, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 6 years!

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

lol at using the command line for all development`

I can understand making students do that

makes them appreciate having an ide/other tools

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
The best way to beat basic programming into people is still having them write said programs onto paper.

But holy lol who the gently caress writes kernel modules without an IDE :wtchris:

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010

Truga posted:

The best way to beat basic programming into people is still having them write said programs onto paper.

But holy lol who the gently caress writes kernel modules without an IDE :wtchris:

programming was brutal for most of its past compared with today. unix was initially written largely without an ide to speak of. as was c, basic, fortran, probably large parts of the early linux kernel and so on. early program loops were accomplished by physically connecting one of the ends of the paper instructions to the other and feeding it back through. can you imagine having to manually flip switches to change your code? I don't do much heavy development, but I don't mind writing small programs out on paper or doing some light development at the shell. writing assembly by hand and debugging physical machines like they did though, no thanks

e: typo

Broken Machine fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Mar 11, 2016

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer
the only guy i know who does kernel stuff (tracing) uses emacs in the term and he wouldnt have it any other way

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
yeah uh what the hell IDE can handle working with the kernel its mess of #defines and gcc proprietary extensions and Kbuild and all that poo poo? Eclipse CDT? lol

Lysidas
Jul 26, 2002

John Diefenbaker is a madman who thinks he's John Diefenbaker.
Pillbug
i have never had a reason to use jetbrains' clion but i wonder how well it would handle the kernel

pram
Jun 10, 2001
it would taint it with your hoardware for starters

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Mr Dog posted:

yeah uh what the hell IDE can handle working with the kernel its mess of #defines and gcc proprietary extensions and Kbuild and all that poo poo? Eclipse CDT? lol

I use eclipse CDT for kernel development just fine. :confused:

http://wiki.eclipse.org/HowTo_use_the_CDT_to_navigate_Linux_kernel_source

FlapYoJacks fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Mar 11, 2016

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Lysidas posted:

i have never had a reason to use jetbrains' clion but i wonder how well it would handle the kernel

i get the impression that clion really really really wants to use cmake and the kernel uses Raymond Chen build code

b h m
Feb 13, 2016

WELL IM GOING TO SPEND THE REST OF MY LIFE EDITING, UPDATING AND FIXING THIS lovely LINUX BOX

MIGHT AS WELL MASTER THE COMMAND LINE EDITORS WHILE IM HERE, IN HELL, WHERE I APPARENTLY LIVE

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost

b h m posted:

WELL IM GOING TO SPEND THE REST OF MY LIFE EDITING, UPDATING AND FIXING THIS lovely LINUX BOX

MIGHT AS WELL MASTER THE COMMAND LINE EDITORS WHILE IM HERE, IN HELL, WHERE I APPARENTLY LIVE

same, op

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
I've a strange desire to install linux

it's been a while

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Silver Alicorn posted:

I've a strange desire to install linux

it's been a while

just relax, it will pass

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Silver Alicorn posted:

I've a strange desire to install linux

it's been a while

posting from linux on the desktop rn

Olivil
Jul 15, 2010

Wow I'd like to be as smart as a computer

Silver Alicorn posted:

I've a strange desire to install linux

it's been a while

install arch in a vm

(im srs)

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Smythe posted:

posting from linux on the desktop rn

james@HUGE-LAPTOP:~$ cat /etc/*-release
DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
DISTRIB_RELEASE=15.10
DISTRIB_CODENAME=wily
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 15.10"
NAME="Ubuntu"
VERSION="15.10 (Wily Werewolf)"
ID=ubuntu
ID_LIKE=debian
PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu 15.10"
VERSION_ID="15.10"
HOME_URL="http://www.ubuntu.com/"
SUPPORT_URL="http://help.ubuntu.com/"
BUG_REPORT_URL="http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/"

james@HUGE-LAPTOP:~$ wmctrl -m
Name: GNOME Shell
Class: N/A
PID: N/A
Window manager's "showing the desktop" mode: N/A

Smythe fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Mar 12, 2016

Zam Wesell
Mar 22, 2009

[Zam is suddenly shot in the neck by a toxic dart; Anakin and Obi-Wan see a "rocket-man" take off and fly away, and Zam dies]
so is arch linux the best linux

pram
Jun 10, 2001
no

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

Granbar posted:

so is arch linux the best linux

fedora

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Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

Olivil posted:

install arch in a vm

(im srs)

running in a vm seems so pointless. it's like watching a porno vs. actual sex

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