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We should be building transit everywhere, both in cities and between. The two types of systems support each other; having good transit available for medium and long distance trips means it's easier to completely give up owning a car and just rely on transit locally.
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Good for packed cities, but where would one put a rail from say Riverside to Anaheim, kinda hosed there as both are spread out and god help you if you need to ride a bike to get from the station to the office. What I'm saying is the 91 blows, the OC blows, I can't afford to move close to work and I'm going to put my face through the steering wheel with every passing day. Not to mention my performance suffers at work because of it. I need a solution, but it will never happen. Aeka 2.0 fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Mar 10, 2016 |
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Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.
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Aeka 2.0 posted:Good for packed cities, but where would one put a rail from say Riverside to Anaheim, kinda hosed there as both are spread out and god help you if you need to ride a bike to get from the station to the office.
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I'm actually thinking about moving to Munich, and one thing that is awesome about Germany is how well-developed the rail systems are. There's a medium-sized city, Augsburg (~275k people) about 35 miles away from Munich, measuring from central train stations. That's about 50% further than going from Concord North to Embarcadero, which takes ~50 minutes on BART, while Augsburg to Munich is about half an hour. It's really sad how bad transit is in California.
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Cicero posted:I'm actually thinking about moving to Munich, and one thing that is awesome about Germany is how well-developed the rail systems are. There's a medium-sized city, Augsburg (~275k people) about 35 miles away from Munich, measuring from central train stations. That's about 50% further than going from Concord North to Embarcadero, which takes ~50 minutes on BART, while Augsburg to Munich is about half an hour. It's really sad how bad transit is in California. FCKGW posted:CA Senate approved raising the smoking age to 21 and also regulating e-cigs the same as tobacco products, banning them in certain locations and restricing the sale and advertisement of them.
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As someone who rides Amtrak from Sac to Oak 50+ times a year at "slower than 1865 speeds" I still say fix that first  And also the Stockton to San Jose (Altamont Corridor "Express" lol) train that also runs at 1865 speeds. Both take 2 hrs to go less than 90 miles.  And then you get to wait for various busses/BART/whatever to actually get to an office. A lot of the issues are due to Amtrak having to share rails with Union Pacific. The stretch from Martinez to Richmond is really slow and old and I'm not kidding when I say 1865.L.A. can do their own poo poo from downtown and out to the 'burbs, same with SD and then eventually when President Xenu is elected - tie them all together for SFO-LA-SD rides. I still believe the entire "start in Fresno" thing was a long term troll to eventually destroy it. I believe I read the original Swiss/Spanish or whoever consultants analyzed the original specs and said "run this motherfucker right down Interstate 5". That was immediately shot down by every politician in the Harris Ranch/MegaAgCorp's pockets as well as every city along the Hwy 99 corridor that wanted the maintenance yards/facility contracts. I've ridden trains in Europe and even in post Franco-era Spain (where they had different sized tracks from France and they'd lift the thing up and throw new wheels on) that are better than our current crappy California rails.  Keyser_Soze fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Mar 10, 2016 |
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But if it followed I-5 then it'd have to run through Los Banos and that would just be embarrassing because they'll never change their name
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Mar 10, 2016 23:07
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Xaris posted:Have you been before? Germany is awesome so congrats. I loved when I was Berlin and would move there in an instant if I could get work. I'm not sure how the recent mass immigration problems have worked out for them but I can't imagine it's made moving moving to Europe any easier and it is an absolute bitch even in my field when I was looking several years ago. Cicero fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Mar 10, 2016 |
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:Hahaha. In reality, the primary opponents to the HSR project have been the people out in the exurbs and central valley ag owners. People in the populous parts of the state tend to love it, again, because of the untenable housing situation in those places. Hahahaha. You should see the signs up and down the Peninsula (they're gone right now) opposing high-speed rail. No trains in my backyard.
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Keyser S0ze posted:As someone who rides Amtrak from Sac to Oak 50+ times a year at "slower than 1865 speeds" I still say fix that first I've done emeryville to turlock and modesto several times, and yeah it's slow as hell. One time on the way there my train was delayed for an hour because it hit a car. Then on the way back it was delayed because it hit a person. Then it was delayed again to let a freight train pass.
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Aeka 2.0 posted:Good for packed cities, but where would one put a rail from say Riverside to Anaheim, kinda hosed there as both are spread out and god help you if you need to ride a bike to get from the station to the office. What I'm saying is the 91 blows, the OC blows, I can't afford to move close to work and I'm going to put my face through the steering wheel with every passing day. Not to mention my performance suffers at work because of it. There are two different metrolink lines that go from Riverside to Anaheim you dork, I ride them every day.
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FCKGW posted:There are two different metrolink lines that go from Riverside to Anaheim you dork, I ride them every day. The issue is more "what do you do after you get there." I mean, not that there's any reason for a tourist to go to Riverside ever or anywhere in Anaheim outside of Disneyland/Honda Center/Angel Stadium.
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FCKGW posted:CA Senate approved raising the smoking age to 21 and also regulating e-cigs the same as tobacco products, banning them in certain locations and restricing the sale and advertisement of them. What a complete waste of time and resources. It's not like kids get cigarettes from adults anyways.
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Mar 11, 2016 05:40
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Cigarettes are awful and any law that makes them even a tiny bit harder for people to get is a good law. Hopefully next is a law that calls for the summary execution of tobacco executives.
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Mar 11, 2016 05:46
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FCKGW posted:There are two different metrolink lines that go from Riverside to Anaheim you dork, I ride them every day. I've looked at them and they don't work for me.
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Two new measures in the Assembly recently: Uber and others are furious about a bill that would let 1099s unionize. A proposed constitutional amendment would end Daylight Saving Time in California.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Two new measures in the Assembly recently: Why is the CA Assembly passing good laws? Have they forgotten who they are?
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redscare posted:Why is the CA Assembly passing good laws? Have they forgotten who they are? Another hot take from quality poster redscare
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Aeka 2.0 posted:I've looked at them and they don't work for me. Well then I'm sorry that a train doesn't go to your office door. I agree that we need more mass transit but it does work for a lot of people.
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Mar 11, 2016 19:17
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Two new measures in the Assembly recently: I want DST to be permanent. Eliminate daylight losing time.
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Mar 11, 2016 19:36
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Dammit, I've saved more daylight than anyone!
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Mar 11, 2016 19:37
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We need rollover daytime, I'm sick of this use it or lose it bullshit.
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If you're going to repeal DST it basically has to be nationwide. Try going to the Grand Canyon in Summer for some hilarious clock changes. e: 
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We should get rid of time zones completely and just have the entire world on the same 24-hour clock. Then you get up, start work, get off work, and go to bed at whatever time is suitable for your region and climate. Time zones and daylight savings time are all just totally stupid ways of arbitrarily adjusting people's schedules to meaningless numbers on a dial. There's no special reason why a company has to open for business at, say, 8 AM instead of 18:00... as long as it's opening in the morning.
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New bill: California switches to UTC! Watch The Simpsons on FOX! Sundays at 8/7 Central/0400 Monday California!
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Leperflesh posted:We should get rid of time zones completely and just have the entire world on the same 24-hour clock. Then you get up, start work, get off work, and go to bed at whatever time is suitable for your region and climate. Time zones and daylight savings time are all just totally stupid ways of arbitrarily adjusting people's schedules to meaningless numbers on a dial. 
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I think Daylight Savings time should be eliminated. (Or preferably made permanent.) That said:Leperflesh posted:We should get rid of time zones completely and just have the entire world on the same 24-hour clock. Then you get up, start work, get off work, and go to bed at whatever time is suitable for your region and climate. Time zones and daylight savings time are all just totally stupid ways of arbitrarily adjusting people's schedules to meaningless numbers on a dial.
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Leperflesh posted:We should get rid of time zones completely and just have the entire world on the same 24-hour clock. Then you get up, start work, get off work, and go to bed at whatever time is suitable for your region and climate. Time zones and daylight savings time are all just totally stupid ways of arbitrarily adjusting people's schedules to meaningless numbers on a dial.
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Leperflesh posted:We should get rid of time zones completely and just have the entire world on the same 24-hour clock. Then you get up, start work, get off work, and go to bed at whatever time is suitable for your region and climate. Time zones and daylight savings time are all just totally stupid ways of arbitrarily adjusting people's schedules to meaningless numbers on a dial. It's a hell of a lot easier if I can assume that 9am here is equivalent to 9am across the world rather than look up their local business hours. Frontloading the work with a timezone is easy and convenient to understand. It's also a lot easier on travelers since you can look at any local clock and know roughly what people will be doing.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:A proposed constitutional amendment would end Daylight Saving Time in California. Daylight savings time is the good one though, more light after work. This is backwards!
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AngryBooch posted:Daylight savings time is the good one though, more light after work. This is backwards!
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TACD posted:Swatch already did this, but for some reason it didn't catch on. China currently does this and it just leads to using their own local time unofficially when the clock gets too far off.
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AngryBooch posted:Daylight savings time is the good one though, more light after work. This is backwards! This sounds more like a problem with your work hours than with the clocks. Plenty of people manage starting work at 6 or 7 just fine. CopperHound fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Mar 11, 2016 |
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Leperflesh posted:Especially if security isn't too onorous, being able to arrive and park at a train station ten minutes before your train is scheduled to depart, and then walk off at the other end and be fifteen minutes from work or a convention or a sports event or something.... This is a bit late, but I think that HSR security will inevitably reach TSA-esque proportions. If something like a French-style train terror attack happens, the people will demand it. And given enough time something will happen.
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computer parts posted:If you're going to repeal DST it basically has to be nationwide.
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Dave47 posted:Sacrificing our language, history, and culture in the name of global business expediency sounds like a pretty lovely deal to me. Huh? Abraham Lincoln and English and our love for baseball, all destroyed by the loss of the time zone system. I'd never have anticipated such a horrifying result! Thanks for the warning, buddy. Dirk the Average posted:It's a hell of a lot easier if I can assume that 9am here is equivalent to 9am across the world rather than look up their local business hours. Frontloading the work with a timezone is easy and convenient to understand. It's also a lot easier on travelers since you can look at any local clock and know roughly what people will be doing. I don't think it's actually that much easier. Instead you have to look up what time zone your colleague is in, and then use a converter or do a caculation to figure out whether or not he's awake right now. Actually you have to do that calculation anyway. And actually when you travel if it's not, like, midday on a weekday you may have to look up business hours anyway, because different regions have different standards for when businesses and locations are open. The point anyway is just to get people to recognize that "I wake up at 7 and go to bed at 11 and I work from 9 to 5:30" are arbitrary numbers. What matters is when the sun comes up and when it goes down, and how your work and nonwork and sleep cycle are set by that cycle. Daylight savings time is stupid because businesses could just adjust their opening hours during the summer if they wanted to, or maybe opt not to. Same with schools, etc. Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Mar 11, 2016 |
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Think about all the songs that reference times! Like "9 to 5" and "Gin and Juice"! Gone forever!
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Leperflesh posted:I don't think it's actually that much easier. Instead you have to look up what time zone your colleague is in, and then use a converter or do a caculation to figure out whether or not he's awake right now. Actually you have to do that calculation anyway. And actually when you travel if it's not, like, midday on a weekday you may have to look up business hours anyway, because different regions have different standards for when businesses and locations are open. Checking time zones is really easy now - you can just Google "time in X" where X is a city, state, country, etc. Outlook will also do the work for you if your contact has location data set up properly. I know what you mean about the numbers being arbitrary, but the nice thing about time zones is that it keeps the daily schedule consistent. 11am here is similar to 11am halfway across the planet, and I can be reasonably sure that most businesses are operating or will be operating at that time. It's much more informative for me to know the current local time than to have to backtrack to figure out what their equivalent global time would be to any given local time that I experience. My point is that as long as we have arbitrary time, it's nice for that time to be arbitrary and consistent rather than a bit of a tangled mess.
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