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Ikantski posted:The guy entered the political spotlight by punching a native in the face for 15 minutes and now he's tripling our boots on the ground in Syria and appointed the ex-chair of CD Howe as Minister of Finance. Obama's actions in office (like the actions of every post war president) easily pass the bar for exactly the actions that we executed the Nazis for at Nuremburg. Trudeau is a lovely politician but at least so far he isn't a serial war criminal, which you basically have to become on day one if you become President. I don't think Trudeau would be any better than Obama if he had the same amount of power but the two positions just aren't comparable. It's like saying Rob Ford is worse than Kathleen Wynne or something -- the amount of damage they can do is on such a different scale that you can barely discuss them in the same context.
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:Yeah but they're outflanking the NDP from the left!!!1! This is both upsetting and true.
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Helsing posted:Obama's actions in office (like the actions of every post war president) easily pass the bar for exactly the actions that we executed the Nazis for at Nuremburg. Trudeau is a lovely politician but at least so far he isn't a serial war criminal, which you basically have to become on day one if you become President. I don't think Trudeau would be any better than Obama if he had the same amount of power but the two positions just aren't comparable. It's like saying Rob Ford is worse than Kathleen Wynne or something -- the amount of damage they can do is on such a different scale that you can barely discuss them in the same context. Yeah but how bad would it be if Trudeau became president?
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quote:http://www.macleans.ca/economy/can-anything-save-new-brunswick/
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It is utterly astonishing (well, maybe not from Macleans) that someone could write even a survey article about NB's troubles and not even briefly mention the Irvings, who fill in the first few rows on that eye chart on their own.
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Ikantski posted:The guy entered the political spotlight by punching a native in the face for 15 minutes and now he's tripling our boots on the ground in Syria and appointed the ex-chair of CD Howe as Minister of Finance. And weed
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PT6A posted:Admittedly, it did raise awareness for their cause, because now I know that the Ethiopian government is trying to take land from the Oromo, and apparently doing so violently, whereas before I'd never heard of it. Whereas I know all about Falun Gong and I just really, really don't loving care. the best part about Falun Gong is how hard the Epoch Times denies being funded by them. And related to that, the time the epoch times blamed China for Anonymous getting access to Stuxnet
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BallsFalls posted:And weed I just stick to the things he's actually done tyvm
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Dallan Invictus posted:It is utterly astonishing (well, maybe not from Macleans) that someone could write even a survey article about NB's troubles and not even briefly mention the Irvings, who fill in the first few rows on that eye chart on their own. Do you happen to have this article still in your history or saved anywhere? It got deleted.
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Dallan Invictus posted:It is utterly astonishing (well, maybe not from Macleans) that someone could write even a survey article about NB's troubles and not even briefly mention the Irvings, who fill in the first few rows on that eye chart on their own. Media jobs are precarious and Canada is a very small country in the grand scheme of things, with an insular elite. There's a reason that we have no equivalent to the muckracking journalism that you see in the USA, or even any real media criticism at all. Everyone goes-along-to-get-along in Canada and it would be highly irrational from a career perspective to get on the bad side of the Irvings or any other powerful family or interest group. I'm impressed to see this Bruce Livesey fellow you linked to is actually taking a swing at the Irvings, we could use more of that in this country.
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heeheex2 posted:Do you happen to have this article still in your history or saved anywhere? It got deleted. Sorry, I read it a couple of days ago and hadn't noticed that it got blanked in the meantime. Google Cache isn't turning up the version I read either so I guess wait until May? Helsing posted:Media jobs are precarious and Canada is a very small country in the grand scheme of things, with an insular elite. I chalk up most of Canada's problems, such as they are, to being too small and too spread out to put together the required critical mass of people in proximity to sustain much of real import, whether it's political movements or think tanks or cultural organs or media outlets.
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Nice to see Miramichi coming up. My great-great-great-great grandfather moved to Canada there.
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Dallan Invictus posted:I chalk up most of Canada's problems, such as they are, to being too small and too spread out to put together the required critical mass of people in proximity to sustain much of real import, whether it's political movements or think tanks or cultural organs or media outlets. We sustain think-tanks, political movements and media outlets just fine. It's just that they are a reflection of the Canadian public in general, which is to say they're horrid. The CFIB and the Fraser Institute and that sort of rubbish seems to have no problem existing, nor any of our media conglomerates.
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This is why I said "much" rather than "any", because a) a handful of examples don't make a sustainable ecosystem, especially if said system is supposed to be competitive or even just avoid being as incestuous and insular as Helsing describes, and b) none of those examples are much more than "big fish in a small pond" and this is precisely what makes them mediocre at best - the markets/economies that fund them and the populace that staffs them are insufficient to support doing what they need to do in any sort of excellent way, particularly when "what they need to do" needs to interact with the rather vast physical stretch of this country and the fixed costs that imposes, and/or needs to make a profit while doing so.
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David Corbett posted:Nice to see Miramichi coming up. My great-great-great-great grandfather moved to Canada there. Mine came over as a German mercenary to fight the Murricans in their Revolution and then decided to stay because eh why not.
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In less happy news, it seems that either three or four people have been taken to the hospital following a shooting at a Muslim cemetery near Cochrane. http://calgaryherald.com/news/crime/up-to-four-people-suffering-from-gunshot-wounds-being-treated-at-foothills A massive police presence has surrounded the hospital, with heavily-armed Calgary police tactical units guarding the front door. This leads me to believe that it was probably gang-related, perhaps involving the Somali community. Edit: Apparently a skirmish erupted at the end of a funeral and everyone was gone by the time the cops showed up. The victims were apparently transported to the hospital by fellow funeral-goers. A relative, who is currently at the Foothills Hospital on a totally unrelated matter, mentioned that the place was suddenly swarmed by police, who came running in with great urgency. Edit 2: The police don't think that a suspect is presently at large, which suggests to me that there were multiple gunmen and that all of them are now at the hospital. (Or that there was a single gunman and he was subdued by others there.) David Corbett fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Mar 12, 2016 |
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David Corbett posted:In less happy news, it seems that four people have been taken to the hospital following a shooting at a Muslim cemetery near Cochrane. Fortunately, thus far, it seems that no one has been killed. Oh Christ, I heard about the shootings, but I thought it might be hate-crime related. I'm not sure if that's better or worse than Somali gang violence, or if it really makes a difference when three (I heard a correction that said three people got shot, I could be wrong) people have been shot
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It's election time in Saskatchewan and Manitoba and you know what that means! Candidates' social media accounts are being mined for misogyny, racism, homophobia, and anything else incriminating, immoral, unethical, or just weird. First, to Saskatchewan, where two NDP candidates have already stepped down. Some choice quotes: quote:In response to a story about the RU-486 abortion pill arriving in Canada, a post on the Facebook page of Mark Jeworski on Aug. 8, 2015 read: “Brad Wall’s mother should have taken the abortion pill!!!” quote:On the night of the federal election, following Justin Trudeau’s victory on Oct. 19, 2015, a post from the account of Jeworski read: “On the bright side with pot going to be legal I can be high as f— when Canada falls apart, but I’ll be high and not care.” Later in that same thread, a post from Jeworski read: “Well I’m pulling out in the spring, why put myself through s—!!! F— it.” A left-winger who smokes weed and calls Conservatives penises? Somebody buy this guy an account! In Manitoba, a Liberal candidate has stepped down and NDPer Wab Kinew is under fire. Some more quotes: quote:For example, one of Hall's tweets from 2012 asks, "If a whore screams in the bedroom and no one is around to hear it, is she really a whore?" quote:Selected tweets from Wab Kinew: It makes me wonder how shoddy the background checks are for candidates. We've just been through the federal election where several candidates were found out to be racist or peeing in sinks and subsequently dropped out of the race. I'd think that negative publicity would be enough that parties would really be going over candidates' social media with a fine toothed comb. The Wab Kinew one is a little different because several years ago he owned up to his past, admitted he wasn't a very nice person, and then strove to become a better person. Some of those tweets are pretty bad (I laughed at the CTV>CBC one), but if he's apologized and hasn't tweeted homophobia or misogyny for 6 years, I guess that's ok? This is something that's only going to become more of a problem as people who have been on social media since they were children become old enough to run for office, so I guess we can all look forward to seeing a bunch of lovely Facebook posts and edgy tweets every time an election rolls around.
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Chicken posted:"F---, I just ran over a cat. Animal is remarkably calm. I'd be screaming like a lol bitch if my hindlegs were just crushed" — Aug. 13, 2009 Chicken posted:I guess that's ok? Nope. Maybe if it was a beagle.
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/brock-university-sexual-harrassment-1.3485814quote:Brock University in southern Ontario says a professor who was found to have sexually harassed one of his students late one night in his office is no longer "assigned to a class and is not on campus." Brock U. still garbage in 2016. edit: lol namaste friends fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Mar 12, 2016 |
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Wab Kinew owned a lot of the lovely things he said. I have a problem with calling people out for things they won't defend.
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These social media witch hunts are certainly going to narrow the playing field as more and more people are part of online communities. Honestly some of those things are pretty bad, and obviously some of those candidates shouldn't be running, but it's kind of worrying since even intelligent candidates are likely to have said or done something stupid when they were younger.
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a primate posted:These social media witch hunts are certainly going to narrow the playing field as more and more people are part of online communities. Honestly some of those things are pretty bad, and obviously some of those candidates shouldn't be running, but it's kind of worrying since even intelligent candidates are likely to have said or done something stupid when they were younger. Maybe people should stop being such lovely assholes in the first place. Or if you're a lovely rear end in a top hat maybe you shouldn't run for public office.
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Imagine if Hedy fry or jenny kwan or loving svend Robinson had Twitter in the 90s loving lol Oh man I forgot about bill vanderzalm
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would follow WAC Bennett
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Amor de Cosmos tweeting sick burns at a drunken rambling racist Sir John would be cool.
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I bet King's tweets would have had a major Losethos vibe to them
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a primate posted:These social media witch hunts are certainly going to narrow the playing field as more and more people are part of online communities. Honestly some of those things are pretty bad, and obviously some of those candidates shouldn't be running, but it's kind of worrying since even intelligent candidates are likely to have said or done something stupid when they were younger. If you're running for public office, delete the Twitter account that you used to call women whores with. It's really loving easy
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A Typical Goon posted:If you're running for public office, delete the Twitter account that you used to call women whores with. It's really loving easy No, convert it into your campaign Twitter. That is much easier and better. @Vote_WeedlordBonerhitler69.
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Bill Aberhart's twitter would be something for posterity to record for sure. Alternating between "100 DOLLARS PER MONTH FOR EVERY ALBERTAN", stuff about how awesome hitler and mussolini are, and bible quotes.
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I'm secretly Justin Trudeau but nobody ever figured out how SA works when they were vetting me.
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Liberals are shocked that what the NDP told everyone in September is truequote:The Liberal government says much of the funding it was counting on for First Nations education was quietly removed from the books by the previous Conservative government, leaving them to scramble ahead of their first budget on March 22. Also this http://aptn.ca/news/2015/09/30/trudeau-responds-to-ndp-fire-over-first-nation-education-funding-discrepancy/
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Legit Businessman fucked around with this message at 16:52 on Sep 9, 2022 |
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Cultural Imperial posted:http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/brock-university-sexual-harrassment-1.3485814 I'm a student at Brock, and the student body is rightfully pissed about what's happened. The administration won't be able to sweep this under the rug. The irony of it is that Brock's always trumpeting how progressive it is regarding campus sexual violence - there's a dedicated support centre for victims, posters and signage promoting consent slapped everywhere, etc. Gonna be a lot harder to spread that message, now that we know it doesn't apply equally to the faculty.
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The best thing about the Something Awful Forums is that it prevents everyone that posts here from ever running in politics.
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Legit Businessman fucked around with this message at 16:52 on Sep 9, 2022 |
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St. Dogbert posted:I'm a student at Brock, and the student body is rightfully pissed about what's happened. The administration won't be able to sweep this under the rug. The government should really just pass a loving law forbidding universities or other private entities from "investigating" sexual assault. If there's evidence that something may have happened then call the police.
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Im going to run for the NDP in Barrie North next election and put my entire posting history at the front so that everyone knows my horrible opinions on games, music and hockey.
Somebody fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Sep 9, 2022 |
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If Ford and Trump can do as well as they have then maybe its time to put Cultural Imperial's name on the ballot.
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Helsing posted:If Ford and Trump can do as well as they have then maybe its time to put Cultural Imperial's name on the ballot. Only works if youre white and wealthy. PT6A its your time to shine.
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