Kimsemus posted:

Yep. It won't take you long to get the 180k silver to buy a farm cat from the stable master, do that ASAP. The donkey is worthless.

You have to be obsessive about doing side quests. The trick to trading is twofold:

1) Having the longest direct connection from a city to the farthest city possible (Ideally you want above 20% distance bonus)

2) Producing your own packs, which is where the real money is.

The reason you need to quest is that reasonably, you're going to need about 150 Contribution Points to do this properly because you're going to need multiple workshops, housing for your workers, supporting beer production, and access to the various raw material nodes. You can scale up or down to a degree but to me, if you're going to do something, do it all the way.

There isn't a right or wrong pack to produce, some people do sunflowers and other produce, some do logs, some do minerals. You are just going to want sufficient laborers set up in your "home" city to produce said packs efficiently, then assemble them as far away from your desto as possible then move them yourself via the wagon. Once you have this kind of operation cranking you'll be making millions of silver a day.

In turn, try to invest this silver into getting a rank 1 house, then converting the profits into more materials for your business, then mass gold bars, which you then use your rank 1 house access to invest at the various banks. It really depends on how involved you want to be, I spend more time doing this than anything else, my goal is to be able to buy as much as I can thus mitigating my need for physically grinding items.

Minsky posted:

If I really hate riding around on a cart, I can just use the Transport feature to move my poo poo to the destination node, then use a cart from storage to the trade manager to execute the final sale, right?

Or does physically moving the goods yourself all the way from source to destination increase their value more?

Kimsemus posted:

The game knows where a pack is produced, so producing them far away and moving them yourself is way more profitable.

Bede posted:

I had this same problem a week ago. Deleting/moving the bdo folder in my documents fixed it.

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Minsky posted:

I agree that the game remembers the location where a pack was produced, and that selling that pack far away is significantly more profitable, but I don't know if it for sure follows from that that the method you choose for moving the pack far away on a cart yourself, instead of the automated move feature makes a difference in the price rather than just the distance moved.

One part of me kind of hopes that it does since otherwise carting things around yourself is largely pointless (since the transport costs seem very cheap). Another part of me hopes it doesn't because carting things around yourself is stupid and boring.

I can just test this really easily myself I guess. I was just wondering if it was already known.

Wilekat posted:

I've just moved a Calpheon wood crate produced in Trent to Velia via NPC transport, took it to the trader and sold it with a 32% distance bonus having carried it a grand total of about 100 feet myself.



Confirming you DO NOT have to transport your poo poo all the way across the map yourself. Pay NPCs to do it for you.

Kerrrrrrr posted:

I'm only a level 36 tamer so I still don't really understand how the black energy thing works? Do I still need to unlock something to get these "ultimate" abilities or am I a dumb?

Wilekat posted:

I've just moved a Calpheon wood crate produced in Trent to Velia via NPC transport, took it to the trader and sold it with a 32% distance bonus having carried it a grand total of about 100 feet myself.



Confirming you DO NOT have to transport your poo poo all the way across the map yourself. Pay NPCs to do it for you.

Rhymenoserous posted:

Why is every how too video for this game like 60 minutes long, and it's always some long winded oval office who can't just say "To setup a supply line simply talk to this guy this guy and this guy and you will be able to trade between these three towns."

Is it just that people who are narcissistic enough to shoot video of them playing video game mans are simply awful? Probably.

Wilekat posted:

I've just moved a Calpheon wood crate produced in Trent to Velia via NPC transport, took it to the trader and sold it with a 32% distance bonus having carried it a grand total of about 100 feet myself.



Confirming you DO NOT have to transport your poo poo all the way across the map yourself. Pay NPCs to do it for you.

crazystray posted:

This sounds ideal, any chance you can make a bit of a guide for this? I plan on starting trading tonight/tomorrow after I finish my fishing boat.

Kerrrrrrr posted:

I was about to post that using Transport has been extremely buggy for me lately but I just found there's a button at the bottom of the map that shows your current transported items and lets you refresh everything on the map so you can actually collect your poo poo.

Kerrrrrrr posted:

I was about to post that using Transport has been extremely buggy for me lately but I just found there's a button at the bottom of the map that shows your current transported items and lets you refresh everything on the map so you can actually collect your poo poo.


Anyway, to transport stuff you can just open the map, click the city that holds your stuff, and click Transport. You DON'T have to be there or talk to any npc to do this.

Then you pick your destination and transport method (usually freight wagon) and shove in everything you want to transfer. If the city isn't connected via nodes, it costs triple.

Some small cities can't transport to every location -- Keplan for example can only transport to Epheria Port and Calpheon, even though I have Velia, Heidel and Olvia connected. Calpheon can transport to anywhere.

Then you send it off and wait for it to arrive. Should take about 10 minutes? But probably longer depending on distance. (I haven't actually been able to keep track because it's buggy sometimes.) You can tell when it's finished because there will be a little blue gift icon above the destination city on the map. If poo poo goes missing click the carriage button at the bottom of the map and hit refresh. Then just hit Transport again and receive your goodies.

Gerdalti posted:

Thanks for pointing that out. I've had a bunch of poo poo go missing lately.

Kimsemus posted:

Keep in mind you have to have enough silver in the city you're transporting from remotely to cover the fees.

Kerrrrrrr posted:

crazystray posted:

I am also curious about the cost to make those boxes, isn't it like 3 x planks which are 100 timber each, and workers can't do it all so you need to burn a bunch of energy to make them as well? I wonder what the market value of those planks would be.

The Quake posted:

RedTonic posted:

Kimsemus got me excited with that "farm cat for 180k silver" post. Then I realized he meant cart.

Eonwe posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/blackdesertonline/comments/49y1ew/is_a_conversation_solver_something_people_would/

some guy is working on a program that will tell you what to do to solve conversations

lmao

Grondoth posted:

This game seems to draw the kind of people who want to automate all fun out of things.

The Quake posted:

hobocrunch posted:

Xavier434 posted:

This is great. We need to fill a street in Calpheon with lots of hookers.

kalstrams posted:

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