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fozzy fosbourne
Apr 21, 2010

She won one big tournament in France, in the finals in another. I think it's unlikely that she is "terrible" but doesn't seem high tier. Not a lot of Americans playing her either tho

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AnonSpore
Jan 19, 2012

"I didn't see the part where he develops as a character so I guess he never developed as a character"
But cams said she was the worst character in the game

InnercityGriot
Dec 31, 2008

Spiritus Nox posted:

Laura's supposed to be terrible, right? Because every single one I meet beats my Vega into the loving dirt - I just keep getting stuck blocking these chains of really loving safe normals and then she mixes in a few of those short, high jumps or command grabs or tick throws and I'm loving done. I can't find any consistent opportunity to attack loving any of them.

She's not terrible, she just has a hard time getting in. She's basically a worse R Mika, who I am convinced is top tier, she only needs like two good guesses before stun then death, Laura needs like three or four.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




i never get beat worse than playing a mika that knows what they're doing.

Goodpart
Jan 9, 2004

quarter circle forward punch
quarter circle forward punch
quarter circle forward punch
rip

InnercityGriot posted:

She's not terrible, she just has a hard time getting in. She's basically a worse R Mika, who I am convinced is top tier, she only needs like two good guesses before stun then death, Laura needs like three or four.
How does a character with an armoured 3/4 screen move, a cancellable crMK, a VT that makes her command dash move at light speed and a linear special that's -2 on block and +2 on hit have issues getting in?

fozzy fosbourne
Apr 21, 2010

The dudes on Daigo's stream have been talking about how good SFV is and are saying it's better than IV. But they also seem worried about the game's health without arcades.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




fozzy fosbourne posted:

The dudes on Daigo's stream have been talking about how good SFV is and are saying it's better than IV. But they also seem worried about the game's health without arcades.

the lack of arcade and the long dev cycle there prior to console seems like the basis of a lot of sfv's problems.

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...
So when's Alex getting released?

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




Mechafunkzilla posted:

So when's Alex getting released?

its probably going to be either the 22 or the 29th i'd guess. they said march but not when. maybe get a trailer at the big tournament coming up

InnercityGriot
Dec 31, 2008

Goodpart posted:

How does a character with an armoured 3/4 screen move, a cancellable crMK, a VT that makes her command dash move at light speed and a linear special that's -2 on block and +2 on hit have issues getting in?

The armored move requires one bar of meter and is unsafe as gently caress on block, plus gets blown up by EX fireballs. VT requires a loss of a lot of life. The rest of the stuff you said has nothing to do with the fact that a projectile user and a good anti air doesn't let her in. Once she's in, she can stay there, but it's getting there that's the issue.

fozzy fosbourne
Apr 21, 2010

Man Daigo double taps literally everything. When he's playing on stream it sounds like someone is going crazy with a stapler or something.

AnonSpore
Jan 19, 2012

"I didn't see the part where he develops as a character so I guess he never developed as a character"

fozzy fosbourne posted:

Man Daigo double taps literally everything. When he's playing on stream it sounds like someone is going crazy with a stapler or something.

You don't?

fozzy fosbourne
Apr 21, 2010

AnonSpore posted:

You don't?

I am still learning, anonspore san

lamentable dustman
Apr 13, 2007

🏆🏆🏆

Any tips for fang? Been trying to pick him up but he seems poo poo at everything except some mix ups on knockdown and the mid-range where people refuse to fight at.

CrashTestVictim
Oct 2, 2003

...roink PERFECT.

lamentable dustman posted:

Any tips for fang? Been trying to pick him up but he seems poo poo at everything except some mix ups on knockdown and the mid-range where people refuse to fight at.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmzLLysmYPc

Big Scary Owl
Oct 1, 2014

by Fluffdaddy
So the March update won't implement anything to stop rage quitting? I didn't see anything about it on the capcom unity post

Sade
Aug 3, 2009

Can't touch this.
No really, you can't

Big Scary Owl posted:

So the March update won't implement anything to stop rage quitting? I didn't see anything about it on the capcom unity post

You get docked LP for ragequitting currently, and supposedly they're going to do monthly passes of players with the highest disconnect rates and reset their league points completely.

cams
Mar 28, 2003


InnercityGriot posted:

R Mika, who I am convinced is top tier
r mika and rashid are two characters that i assume have some terrible matchups i don't know about, because i think they are both up there. not on chun's level, but i'd group them in with dhalsim and dictator.

Corbeau
Sep 13, 2010

Jack of All Trades

Sade posted:

You get docked LP for ragequitting currently, and supposedly they're going to do monthly passes of players with the highest disconnect rates and reset their league points completely.

Possibly the second-worst way to address it that they could choose.

Revelant
Jul 27, 2007

Ask me about my male escort services. 30% Discounts for Goons.

Goodpart posted:

How does a character with an armoured 3/4 screen move, a cancellable crMK, a VT that makes her command dash move at light speed and a linear special that's -2 on block and +2 on hit have issues getting in?

Her armored move 3/4 screen move is unsafe on block. Its also doesn't have armor till frame 3, making her have a grand total of 0 reversals.
Her anti air special trades if she does it too late.
crMK might be cancellable, but only into one comboable special or VSkill. Its a pretty stubbly crMK.
Her VT dash all are counter hittable, making it a decent risk for both parties.
The LP bolt charge is her only safe move, mostly she either hits you or blocks afterwards. When you block it its a guessing game for her. Does she block the normal or get thrown.

Lauras want to get in. Keep her out.
AA her with normals or your preferred special
Throw fireballs all day if she doesn't have EX bar
When she does most lauras can only react to the second fireball, so keep your fireball sparce and just block the ex bolt charge and free combo time.
If you do knock her down she has no reversals so meaties and jump in.
Most of the cast has further reaching normals than her, its why her vskill is a dash to get in. Use them to keep her out.
3f jabs pretty much stop most of her pressure unless the Laura is looking to frame trap.
Her specials that are avoided/blocked except one are punishable
Laura also has a big deadzone on her AA normals she cant stop crossups other than block, she doesnt have a RYU jab hurtbox. Unless she uses her AA special early in your crossup attempt she has to block or eats a crossup combo. Her actual only safe thing to do is dash under.
Her resets all have tell tale signs on which side you end up.

Most of the time I win with Laura is when people go on auto pilot, people have routines and I pick them up and just counter.
Yes she can be a monster when she gets in. Shes like Makoto. Wants you on the floor waiting for you to make a 33% guess.
Her back throw is possibly one of the best in the game, and she wants to use it.
Once she opens you up she will test your decision making skills and will make you pay dearly for a wrong decision.
One or two wrong decisions and she will stun you.

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

Revelant posted:

3f jabs pretty much stop most of her pressure unless the Laura is looking to frame trap.

Does st.lk leave you in range for command throw?

Revelant
Jul 27, 2007

Ask me about my male escort services. 30% Discounts for Goons.

Arzachel posted:

Does st.lk leave you in range for command throw?

Yes from jump in or up close. The move doesnt move you forward so the standard tactic is jump in, st.lk to command grab or st.lk xx st.lk (hitconfirm [also too far to command grab now]) xx lp bolt

dangerdoom volvo
Nov 5, 2009
Laura pros:
- has yuris buttslam

Revelant
Jul 27, 2007

Ask me about my male escort services. 30% Discounts for Goons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV8-2DzNDRQ

rednecked_crake
Mar 17, 2012

srsly who wants to play this lamer?
I'm reasonably sure that you can just press mp if gief tries to just suck you in with v-trigger without landing any of those hits on you, it's not a thing but I get away with jabbing afterwards anyway.

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting
Since when exactly did Mika start getting all this respect?

brian
Sep 11, 2001
I obtained this title through beard tax.

signalnoise posted:

Since when exactly did Mika start getting all this respect?

I don't know what this post means but I want to punch you for making it

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...

signalnoise posted:

Since when exactly did Mika start getting all this respect?

Probably since NativeImpact won NLBC on Wednesday.

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting
Awesome, I dont really keep up with the tournament scene lately but that's very cool

Jokerpilled Drudge
Jan 27, 2010

by Pragmatica
Remember that time where instead of fixing the broken steamworks for Ultra SFIV they added in all the SF V movesets in some omega mode?

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
usf4 turned out to be something busted on valves end.

something wasn't capcoms fault, for once.

fozzy fosbourne
Apr 21, 2010

https://twitter.com/fubarduck/status/708607696077860864

Fereydun
May 9, 2008


lets all agree to replace 'shimmy' with 'yomi'

Madcosby
Mar 4, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
you people are loving weird

Help Im Alive
Nov 8, 2009

What do they call microwalks in japan

interrodactyl
Nov 8, 2011

you have no dignity
https://youtu.be/PRaWrA-ruPE

I'm glad capcom removed all the option selects so I have to commit when I press a button

inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!

interrodactyl posted:

https://youtu.be/PRaWrA-ruPE

I'm glad capcom removed all the option selects so I have to commit when I press a button

Didn't MKX have this exact same loving problem

interrodactyl
Nov 8, 2011

you have no dignity
yes that's why mkx is the god game

Fereydun
May 9, 2008

Madcosby posted:

you people are loving weird
since im playing jojos instead of sf5
https://a.pomf.cat/qoczau.mp4

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bebaloorpabopalo
Nov 23, 2005

I'm not interested in constructive criticism, believe me.

interrodactyl posted:

https://youtu.be/PRaWrA-ruPE

I'm glad capcom removed all the option selects so I have to commit when I press a button

Don't worry it is part of their stated design goal to remove Option Selects as they find them so as to not significantly minimize, shift and naturally warp the innate risk-reward benefit factor of existing design choices and apply additional raw input execution skill pressure or burden of knowledge to the metagame.

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