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I follow her but I can't help but roll my eyes at stuff like this. I woulda loved Marvel movies when I was like 12.
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Yaws posted:I follow her but I can't help but roll my eyes at stuff like this. I woulda loved Marvel movies when I was like 12. (i kinda do too, but I just saw it and thought it would be funny. Movies aren't depressing)
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Soggy Cereal posted:I love this. I think this is why I like these movies so much. The issue is that, if you're looking for actual comic-book lightheartedness, you need to look to Man Of Steel. Lois Lane, dogged and adventurous photojournalist, is the sort of concept that's totally alien to the Marvel Studio films. Concepts like integrity don't fit in a world where everyone is either dangerously misguided or a rube ready to be exploited. As another contrast, the verisimilitude of the Dark Knight films (which are, of course, much more absurd and humorous than gripey fans tend to recall) allowed them to function as satires. There's none of this dour "it's all fun and games until..." chastisement. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Mar 12, 2016 |
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JediTalentAgent posted:We saw plenty of indie, newer and lesser-known characters getting comic book movies, but not any of the really popular long-running ones. No Daredevil, no X-Men, no Spidey, no Iron Man, no Hulk, no GL, no Superman, Wonder Woman or Catwoman, etc. All this despite the 90s being filled with several of those having some rumored in-development work being done at the time. I've been meaning to do some research on the comicbook movies that were developed but never actually went into production, just to get an idea of what could have been.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:I've been meaning to do some research on the comicbook movies that were developed but never actually went into production, just to get an idea of what could have been. its worth remembering that a lot of marvels properties had absolutely batshit rights issues because things were sold and bought and relicensed approximately a million times, hence roger corman getting thrown a literal million dollars to make a movie that would never get an official release, just to hang onto the rights sean howe's The Untold Story of Marvel Comics talks a bit about the movies
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Boob Marley posted:Took out the freshness column since that triggers people. Interesting. So when we compare all the recent Marvel and DC movies we see that the MCU is all middle of the road (from good to not so good but never really good or really bad, comparatively) but when we look at every superhero from the last 38 years the MCU is "average to good" Seems about right.
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The MSJ posted:Does the Super Soldier Serum counts as a drug? Because winners don't use them. It could be considered the equivalent to becoming a cyber-commando. A Mark 0, if you will.
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MonsieurChoc posted:It could be considered the equivalent to becoming a cyber-commando. A Mark 0, if you will. A... Metall-Zero? 
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MacheteZombie posted:Please remake your chart to include Box Office numbers. An incomplete data set is useless. Money earned is not a good measure of quality, therefore box office numbers are not on the chart. Funny though, money is a good measure of popularity, the very aspect upon which I have been accused of judging movies. Can't have it both ways. greatn posted:They're really gonna shoot themselves in the foot with this movie that's getting good critical buzz and tracking ~$250-300 million opening weekend. Yeah, real good critical buzz... Rumor of the Day: Why Dawn of Justice is making Warner Bros. 'nervous' Well, apparently, test screenings for the flick aren't going quite as well as the studio hoped, and some insiders are convinced that's going to breed changes in the Warner Bros. superhero slate. Here's Drew McWeeny from HitFix talking about the issue: "Warner is a little bit worried. This movie is starting to scare them. It's scaring them because they're showing it to people now, people are actually laying eyes on the film now, and the response has not been what I think they wanted. If I were going to lay a bet on how it may happen, Suicide Squad, they1'll go all-in on. They'll push all their chips in on that and I think Suicide Squad's going to be a hit for them. I think Wonder Woman will be finished the way they're working on it right now and they'll release it. I would be surprised if Justice League starts shooting when they say it's going to, and I would be equally surprised if Zack Snyder directed it." http://www.blastr.com/2016-2-16/rumor-day-why-dawn-justice-making-warner-bros-nervous REPORT: "BATMAN V SUPERMAN" RESPONSE COULD LEAD TO MAJOR SHIFTS IN DC FILMS PLANS The internal response to high-profile DC Comics-based feature "Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice" isn't what Warner Bros. had been hoping for thus far. According to a video report published Thursday from HitFix film reporter Drew McWeeny. This reaction has led McWeeny to the conclusion that if "Batman v Superman" isn't a major hit, it'll mean dramatic shifts in the DC Films master plan. "This movie is starting to scare [Warner Bros.]," McWeeny said, citing unnamed sources. "Response has not been exactly what I think they wanted." http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/report-batman-v-superman-response-could-lead-to-major-shifts-in-dc-films-plans Anyways, I had a lot to think about during my 6 hour vacation and I reading back through all the posts I think I've finally gotten the gist of it with these two revelations: 1.) The MCU sucks and is bullshit because its fun and any idiot can enjoy it. 2.) Man of Steel is top level cinema because it just looks so cinematic, you know, like a movie, and it stimulates your intellect by forcing you to think of increasingly convoluted reasons for why you like because Dark Knight is the poo poo, gently caress you Marvel, you don't know about blowing up cities like we do, DC gets it!
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I sure trust resources like blastr.com and comicbookresources.com
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Drew McWeeny has an special, inexplicable hatred for the DC movies. Recently he put out loads of propaganda pieces about how DC management is allegedly disappointed in BVS and Justice League would be canceled, and then had to backtrack once the Justice League filming start date was actually moved to be sooner. This indicates great faith in the next 3 DC movies at least, but McWeeny had to reframe it about how BVS GONNA BOMB AND RUIN EVERYTHING. It's a desperate attempt to make his fan-whining come true and vindicate him.
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computer parts posted:I sure trust resources like blastr.com and comicbookresources.com CBR is legit, even if it is a total cesspool of idiots.
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Movies are good
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Corek posted:Movies are good Can you source that?
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The issue is that, if you're looking for actual comic-book lightheartedness, you need to look to Man Of Steel. Oh definitely. I enjoyed Man of Steel a lot more than I thought I would just from all the things I'd heard about it. I don't even like Superman that much. I'd have to rewatch it again to pick out the themes I noticed, but there's a lot going on in there. People talk about all the phalluses in it but I also noticed a lot of yonic/womb imagery. I also enjoyed that the Kryptonian "holograms" are cool metal globule things and not the blue glowy holograms from every other modern sci fi (which are also cool but this was different.)
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I think BvS having bad buzz is literally last week's news. Now it's getting positive.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:As another contrast, the verisimilitude of the Dark Knight films (which are, of course, much more absurd and humorous than gripey fans tend to recall) allowed them to function as satires. There's none of this dour "it's all fun and games until..." chastisement. some days you just cant get rid of a bomb
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:As another contrast, the verisimilitude of the Dark Knight films (which are, of course, much more absurd and humorous than gripey fans tend to recall) allowed them to function as satires. There's none of this dour "it's all fun and games until..." chastisement. There's an entire stable of Cracked.com writers chomping at the bit to tell you that Bane sounds ridiculous and DKR is full of goofy setups at literally every possible opportunity, seemingly without ever having ever considered that Bane and his motion picture pals might be in on the joke
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Bane does sound goofy and that's why he's great.
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Corek posted:Movies are good Could you express this as a spreadsheet?
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CelticPredator posted:Bane does sound goofy and that's why he's great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mON8atk0_t4
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So now we are debating what the Civil War movie would look like... in color? BatAffleck looks like Adam West Batman? It's just like a local comic book shop. Are we going to get Merry Marvel Marching society/Marvel Zombies tags?And SuperMechagodzilla is still the best. 
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I don't understand what's been going on at DC since nu52. Are Bruce Timm and Paul Dini the only ones who can write for these characters? I liked MoS but I can easily see why other people don't, and the only adaptation of DC that everyone seemed to enjoy were the DCAU cartoons.
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CelticPredator posted:Bane does sound goofy and that's why he's great. It's difficult to overstate how nothing a character Bane is otherwise. You gotta give Hardy props.
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Boob Marley posted:Yeah, real good critical buzz... lmao at cherrypicking unfounded rumors, more so from a guy who has a clear bias against the direction WB/DC is taking their cinematic universe. quote:Anyways, I had a lot to think about during my 6 hour vacation and I reading back through all the posts I think I've finally gotten the gist of it with these two revelations: Make another chart depicting this difference 
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Jenny Angel posted:There's an entire stable of Cracked.com writers chomping at the bit to tell you that Bane sounds ridiculous and DKR is full of goofy setups at literally every possible opportunity, seemingly without ever having ever considered that Bane and his motion picture pals might be in on the joke Hell earlier this week in this thread or the BvS one someone was going on about how Nolan made a huge mistake letting Bale use a silly Bat-voice. It's bizarre.
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Boob Marley posted:1.) The MCU sucks and is bullshit because its fun and any idiot can enjoy it.
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Comic book movies are p cool, except when they're poop.
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Boob Marley posted:Money earned is not a good measure of quality, therefore box office numbers are not on the chart. TetsuoTW posted:Comic book movies are p cool, except when they're poop. The tragic contradiction of all comic book movies
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:I've been meaning to do some research on the comicbook movies that were developed but never actually went into production, just to get an idea of what could have been. I had an old comic book movie/media magazine from the late 80s/early 90s I recently threw away just due to quality, but it had a thing at the end about several productions allegedly in development at that time. They had an interesting piece about a planned Green Hornet movie, for example, that never came to be from maybe about the mid-80s. From what I remember, the planned script involved a camp sci-fi Green Hornet than crimebuster. Essentially Green Hornet vs. Mars Attacks is how it sounded. The one bit about it that did sound very interesting given the period of time was that the planned script was supposed to focus on Green Hornet being a hero struggling to living up to being a hero and having an affair with Kato's girlfriend. It probably would have been Cannon Films grade B-movie, but there's a part of me that's always been intrigued by a superhero film that did a lead who was an unlikeable and broken mess in their secret identity but somehow pulled it together in their costumed one. One sort of interesting note was that it claimed Batman 2 would not have Penguin as a villain, which isn't what ended up happening at all. However, I think at that time they still might have been talking Robin Williams as the potential Riddler. Along those lines and the spreadsheet discussion we've been having lately, Batman Returns ended up setting up the multiple villains per film for the remainder of the Batman film series. This sort of got to to at one point of me wondering how each film might have been different had the villain pairings been different. For example, i could almost see Penguin working with any of the main baddies except for Poison Ivy pretty well and give them all good reasons for working with him. Catwoman I think could have paired well with Two-Face given how much Returns and Forever tried to delve into the dual identities of the main characters. Poison Ivy worked sort of okay with Two-Face/Dent in the animated series, but I don't think it could work well in a movie.
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Y Kant Ozma Diet posted:That sky looks like it came straight from the Flash Gordon movie It's way too colorful, but I was still thinking of the scene from Hellraiser 2 when they open the Lament Configuration. I'd watch Avengers vs. Cenobites, that'd be fun! Boob Marley posted:Money earned is not a good measure of quality, therefore box office numbers are not on the chart. Go away.
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The Cameo posted:If only any Marvel movie was as willing to embrace camp on a level even approaching Flash Gordon's. Flash Gordon and Barbarella are two of the best comic book movies ever made so I'd be totally down with this.
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CelticPredator posted:I did this super quick and I'm sure it has a hosed up histogram or it's over contrasted whatever...but as a quick thing does this make the shot look better? Or at least a little more visually interesting than a boring grey sky over a boring grey location? Needs Guile fighting in the background, man.
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Jenny Angel posted:There's an entire stable of Cracked.com writers chomping at the bit to tell you that Bane sounds ridiculous and DKR is full of goofy setups at literally every possible opportunity, seemingly without ever having ever considered that Bane and his motion picture pals might be in on the joke Hardy deserves props for his performance, I'm not sure if I can separate the fallout from both Nolan's Joker and Bane from their respective actors, but something did ressonated with the culture at the time to make them so prevailing.
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People still peddling that McWeeny rumor after it was proven wrong in the most hilarious fashion is incredible to me. Isn't this the same dude who was swearing up and down that WB had a no jokes edict and that Joseph Gordon-Levitt was for sure absolutely no doubt going to be Batman?
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Semper Fudge posted:People still peddling <rumor> after it was proven wrong ... is incredible to me. As you spend more time on The Internet, this phenomenon will become familiar to you.
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