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bhsman
Feb 10, 2008

by exmarx

deadly_pudding posted:

They're pretty subtle about it, except for Liu Kang being a dick to him for some reason. "I am aware of your proclivities *scoff*"

I remembered there being a line from his flashback that seemed like it was left unexplained by the rest of story mode, but after looking it up it makes way more sense if the implication is him being gay.

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Sade
Aug 3, 2009

Can't touch this.
No really, you can't

Revelant posted:

Is there any reason to not uses your Crush counter moves as meaties ?
Assuming yours doesn't launch and isn't choreographed a mile away

You can get reversaled and you'll only get a crush counter if they press something non-invincible, which good players will never do.

Fereydun
May 9, 2008

dangerdoom volvo posted:

It's cooler that Liu kang is a homophobe then imo

hes evil in that game

the real liu kang would never be like that... he's too busy beating up reptile to techno music

DLC Inc
Jun 1, 2011

sf could learn a lot from mkx. maybe if they have guest characters like freddy kreuger or bayonetta then they could make as much monies as MKX, a successful award winning fighting game, did.

Revelant
Jul 27, 2007

Ask me about my male escort services. 30% Discounts for Goons.

Sade posted:

You can get reversaled and you'll only get a crush counter if they press something non-invincible, which good players will never do.

Well pretty much any meatie can be reversalled. So its a risk you take I guess.


But currently I'm dealing with a lot of jabbers.
With laura I have a few counter combos, but thinking about it and when they wake up I should just use her s.HP get a crush counter just go to town there.

boxcarhobo
Jun 23, 2005


yes

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

Revelant posted:

Well pretty much any meatie can be reversalled. So its a risk you take I guess.


But currently I'm dealing with a lot of jabbers.
With laura I have a few counter combos, but thinking about it and when they wake up I should just use her s.HP get a crush counter just go to town there.

You're going to get jabbed out of startup if they quickrise

interrodactyl
Nov 8, 2011

you have no dignity
You can already play Ryu and Bayonetta in a superior game known as super smash bros for the wii u

DLC Inc
Jun 1, 2011

interrodactyl posted:

You can already play Ryu and Bayonetta in a superior game known as super smash bros for the wii u

that's true. in fact I'd prefer they take all 16 original characters from SSF2T and make a smash bros game with them. just make them all like ryu with easy scrub moves but also skilled moves. it'd be the best smash bros game ever.

Help Im Alive
Nov 8, 2009

What about if Ryu and Chun Li could fight against Marvel superheroes

Sarchasm
Apr 14, 2002

So that explains why he did not answer. He had no mouth to answer with. There is nothing left of him but his ears.

Help Im Alive posted:

What about if Ryu and Chun Li could fight against Marvel superheroes

I weep for the Marvel 4 that will never be, but I would settle for Marvel-themed costumes for the existing cast. Let me pay you for the right to reskin Dhalsim as Mr. Fantastic.

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Revelant posted:

Is there any reason to not uses your Crush counter moves as meaties ?
Assuming yours doesn't launch and isn't choreographed a mile away

chun's b.hp is a good meaty but it would have higher reward if it wasn't a CC :V

edit:or at least not a launching one

Pomp fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Mar 14, 2016

Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord

Help Im Alive posted:

What about if Ryu and Chun Li could fight against Marvel superheroes

Uh they'd lose because they're like regular dudes fighting peeps with super powers duh.

Fellblade
Apr 28, 2009

Arzachel posted:

You're going to get jabbed out of startup if they quickrise

Why would this happen? Surely that's only if you don't land it meaty?

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI
Whenever I get into Super Bronze, someone beats me, docks 65 points and chucks me back into the 900 range again.

drat I'm bad at games.

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

Fellblade posted:

Why would this happen? Surely that's only if you don't land it meaty?

Most of her knockdowns leave you at 0 or less after forward dash if the opponent quickrises and you only get a cr.MP off back throw vs 3 frame normals.

dhamster
Aug 5, 2013

I got into my car and ate my chalupa with a feeling of accomplishment.
People like to post long lists of bnb combos for characters, but as a complete beginner, how does one work on introducing that into gameplay? Lots of training mode? If so, which ones do people tend to work on first?

dangerdoom volvo
Nov 5, 2009

dhamster posted:

People like to post long lists of bnb combos for characters, but as a complete beginner, how does one work on introducing that into gameplay? Lots of training mode? If so, which ones do people tend to work on first?

Learn a confirm, that is something you can start throwing out and react if its blocked, usually starting with light something. And also learn a punish ie something you do when you block something unsafe like an uppercut usually starting with a heavy. Do them in training mode until you can do them and also do them in games with people until you can do them there because its not the same

pissdude
Jul 15, 2003

(and can't post for 6 years!)

dhamster posted:

People like to post long lists of bnb combos for characters, but as a complete beginner, how does one work on introducing that into gameplay? Lots of training mode? If so, which ones do people tend to work on first?

Identify which normals your character tends to use to cancel into special attacks, and in matches try and get a feel for how to use those normals against another person. When you feel comfortable using those normals against another player in realtime you'll be able to actually followup with the combos they lead into more naturally, rather than focusing on "using the combo" in a match. New players often get stuck in the trap of seeing a combo online, drilling it in training mode, and focusing solely on doing the combo in a match rather than having it occur naturally from your accurate usage of normals. Practice your combos in training mode for sure, but don't put too much undue focus on them. You'll find yourself performing them naturally when the moment strikes if you keep your focus on spacing yourself, blocking when appropriate, and familiarizing yourself with your character's normals.

hiddenriverninja
May 10, 2013

life is locomotion
keep moving
trust that you'll find your way

tell me to how to stop pushing buttons

Jmcrofts
Jan 7, 2008

just chillin' in the club
Lipstick Apathy

Sade posted:

You can get reversaled and you'll only get a crush counter if they press something non-invincible, which good players will never do.

Actually players of all skill levels wake up with jab all the goddamn time, meaty CC is good (as long as your cc normal is safe on block)

Cinroth
Dec 11, 2008

Has it never occured
to you that this club
is overpopulated?

hiddenriverninja posted:

tell me to how to stop pushing buttons

Keep your left hand on the stick in a down-diagonal position in the contextually relevant direction to block and then proceed to withdraw your right hand from the surface of the stick in order to make unwanted finger-to-button contact as unlikely as possible.

Foodahn
Oct 5, 2006

Pillbug

Arzachel posted:

Most of her knockdowns leave you at 0 or less after forward dash ...

Most of her knockdowns give great meaty pressure actually. All of them in fact.

Brosnan
Nov 13, 2004

Pwning the incels with my waifu fg character. Get trolled :twisted:
Lipstick Apathy

bhsman posted:

Oh wow, Kung Jin is gay?

It was like the only way they could come up with to try to make him "interesting."

(Didn't really work though)

Arzachel
May 12, 2012

Foodahn posted:

Most of her knockdowns give great meaty pressure actually. All of them in fact.

I'm going off wrong information then and will have to lab that myself.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Has there been any indication as to a date for the March update yet.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

hiddenriverninja posted:

tell me to how to stop pushing buttons

I push a lot of buttons when I far away from people but I don't push buttons when I get closer. This is true power, a psychological battle on the digital landscape

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI
Maaaan, Cammy's stand RH is so garbage. I can only ever use it as a crush counter when I block a DP. I wish she had her old roundhouse back. That, or cr.HP gave a crush counter.

the Gaffe
Jul 4, 2011

you gotta believe dawg

hiddenriverninja posted:

tell me to how to stop pushing buttons

Stop being emotionally invested in the outcome of the match. Don't play to win, play to practice specific things. I stopped pushing buttons when I was only in the match to practice anti-airing, jabs, and grabs for example.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

I've been focusing on my anti airs recently. Reacting to certain attacks is pretty hard but it's satisfying to send people flying away like a maniac rag doll when you land one.

boxcarhobo
Jun 23, 2005

Gammatron 64 posted:

Maaaan, Cammy's stand RH is so garbage. I can only ever use it as a crush counter when I block a DP. I wish she had her old roundhouse back. That, or cr.HP gave a crush counter.

use cr.hp to fish for vtrigger combo, punish with st.mp st.hp [vtrigger st.hp] hk sa [xx hk dp xx super]

basically as far as I can tell, just dont even press st hk, its poo poo

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI

boxcarhobo posted:

use cr.hp to fish for vtrigger combo, punish with st.mp st.hp [vtrigger st.hp] hk sa [xx hk dp xx super]

basically as far as I can tell, just dont even press st hk, its poo poo

Yeah, I do that already. I don't do v-trigger and super in the same combo though as iirc it's a waste of meter due to scaling.

What's nice about Cammy is that if you confirm into v-trigger then do a spiral arrow into DP she practically has 2 separate super meters.

AnonSpore
Jan 19, 2012

"I didn't see the part where he develops as a character so I guess he never developed as a character"
I thought supers in this game had minimum scaling

bhsman
Feb 10, 2008

by exmarx
Beaten, but FWIW Necalli's standing MP is a really good confirm to use (and you see a lot of the better players using it) because you can link it into cr.MP and cancel into LP Dash to push an opponent into the corner, or cancel immediately into LK Stomp (which can be canceled into Super). When you're closer, st. MK is a good one as well.

Brosnan posted:

It was like the only way they could come up with to try to make him "interesting."

(Didn't really work though)

I mean, he's still not interesting to me, but from a diversity perspective that's awesome to hear.

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI

AnonSpore posted:

I thought supers in this game had minimum scaling

I could be talking out of my rear end, I dunno. I can try it when I get home from work and see what the numbers actually are.

boxcarhobo
Jun 23, 2005

Gammatron 64 posted:

I could be talking out of my rear end, I dunno. I can try it when I get home from work and see what the numbers actually are.

pls do and let me know

Sick! Thats DOPE
Aug 1, 2008

Oh sick man thats sick

AnonSpore posted:

I thought supers in this game had minimum scaling

they cant scale below 50% i think. but a combo thats jump hp, hp, activate VT, hp x super wouldnt be meter optimized i guess.

Faffel
Dec 31, 2008

A bouncy little mouse!

hiddenriverninja posted:

tell me to how to stop pushing buttons

If you stop pressing buttons, they'll just keep pressing them and then where will you be

In Training posted:

Has there been any indication as to a date for the March update yet.

Some time in April

halwain
May 31, 2011
Whatever you think about mkx, at least it had really fast load times in versus.

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Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
VT combos aren't optimal punishes for some reason or another, but they're still your go to thing for converting off a stray hit

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