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Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Torrannor posted:

Meanwhile, the SPD loses support among working class people for reasons that will always mystify me. Mindestlohn ist anscheinend eine Idee der CDU oder so... :suicide:

Counterpoint: Siggy Pop.

Minimum wage also does not create jobs and it's below collective bargaining agreements in the first place. It's effects are barely worth mentioning.

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ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

System Metternich posted:

If you've got some time to burn, then you could do worse than reading this ZEIT Online article about the people that vote AfD and the role of social media in the party's rise, it's really good.

Literally posted on the same page.

Simply Simon
Nov 6, 2010

📡scanning🛰️ for good game 🎮design🦔🦔🦔

System Metternich posted:

If you've got some time to burn, then you could do worse than reading this ZEIT Online article about the people that vote AfD and the role of social media in the party's rise, it's really good.
Seconded. Zeit is really producing top-notch material as of late - maybe always has, they just never were on my radar.

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?

Schurik posted:

Lmao this is the most annoying poo poo I've heard in a long time.

Different strokes :shrug: You're from Frankfurt, right? Do you just start drinking heavily during those four times a year then?

ArchangeI posted:

Literally posted on the same page.

Oops, my bad :downs:

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Simply Simon posted:

Seconded. Zeit is really producing top-notch material as of late - maybe always has, they just never were on my radar.

I particularly like the Fischer-Kolumne. He has a way of getting really pissed about whatever he's writing, and it's just incredibly entertaining to read.

e X
Feb 23, 2013

cool but crude

Torrannor posted:

Meanwhile, the SPD loses support among working class people for reasons that will always mystify me. Mindestlohn ist anscheinend eine Idee der CDU oder so... :suicide:

There is nothing mystifying about it, it is a pretty obvious case of cause and consequence.

Simply Simon
Nov 6, 2010

📡scanning🛰️ for good game 🎮design🦔🦔🦔

Perestroika posted:

I particularly like the Fischer-Kolumne. He has a way of getting really pissed about whatever he's writing, and it's just incredibly entertaining to read.
A link to that was when Zeit first caught my attention, it's great!

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS
In vielen klassischen Arbeiterberufen hat der Mindestlohn keine Veränderungen gebracht, da allgemeinverbindliche Tarifverträge oder das Entsendegesetz bereits gleichwertige oder höhere Entlohnungsstandards gesetzt hatten.

Da ist es nicht erstaunlich, dass der Mindestlohn die SPD nicht wieder in die Wählergunst bringt.

niethan
Nov 22, 2005

Don't be scared, homie!
at least muezzins can sing and dont just pull some cord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUHDYlJHaOQ

srsly though orgsnised religion is a cancer

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

niethan posted:

srsly though orgsnised religion is a cancer

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?

Whatever makes you feel euphoric, I guess *puts on robe and bishop hat*

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

System Metternich posted:

Whatever makes you feel euphoric, I guess *puts on robe and bishop hat*

Aber mal ernsthaft, manche Städte haben nettes Geläute, das man mal ertragen kann, andere hören sich an als würden wilde Affen auf Metallschrott herumhampeln.

Da ziehe ich Scar Symmetry vor, die tun wenigstens nicht so als ob ihr Gegröle himmlische Musik ist.

Lucy Heartfilia
May 31, 2012


Re Zeit article:
AfD Wähler ausweisen! Deutschland braucht keine integrationsunwilligen Menschen, die sich weigern sich der deutschen Leitkultur anzupassen!

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

niethan posted:

srsly though orgsnised religion is a cancer

Organized cancer is a religion

makes u think

botany
Apr 27, 2013

by Lowtax

niethan posted:

at least muezzins can sing and dont just pull some cord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUHDYlJHaOQ

srsly though orgsnised religion is a cancer

that owns

Lunar Suite
Jun 5, 2011

If you love a flower which happens to be on a star, it is sweet at night to gaze at the sky. All the stars are a riot of flowers.
That AfD programe is trying to occupy all possible positions at the same time, isn't it?

We're against divorces, unless they're the right kind. Single parents are bad, unless they don't deserve it.

also, the "no gays, no abortions, no big gubmint" - what's next? Frauke Petry proposes to (re)build the wall?

GaussianCopula
Jun 5, 2011
Jews fleeing the Holocaust are not in any way comparable to North Africans, who don't flee genocide but want to enjoy the social welfare systems of Northern Europe.

Lunar Suite posted:

That AfD programe is trying to occupy all possible positions at the same time, isn't it?

We're against divorces, unless they're the right kind. Single parents are bad, unless they don't deserve it.

also, the "no gays, no abortions, no big gubmint" - what's next? Frauke Petry proposes to (re)build the wall?

Their general position seems to be "we are against [insert minority here] except when you have personal stories and pictures of them, in which case we are the most compassionate people in the world."

Infected
Oct 17, 2012

Salt Incarnate


Ecept when they are "We will not get blackmailed by the eyes of suffering children."

Schurik
Sep 13, 2008


Lucy Heartfilia posted:

Re Zeit article:
AfD Wähler ausweisen! Deutschland braucht keine integrationsunwilligen Menschen, die sich weigern sich der deutschen Leitkultur anzupassen!

stealing this for personal use

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!
The AfD is Die PARTEI except run by right wing idiots who are completely serious.

Content free politics. For policy, against policy. Build a wall somewhere.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Infected posted:

Ecept when they are "We will not get blackmailed by the eyes of suffering children."

Also shooting unarmed refugees at the border. Because that's totally legal* you guys, which also obviously makes it right and moral.

*not actually legal

GaussianCopula
Jun 5, 2011
Jews fleeing the Holocaust are not in any way comparable to North Africans, who don't flee genocide but want to enjoy the social welfare systems of Northern Europe.
It seems like the AfD has found someone really qualified to speak about the sexual urges of Arabs

quote:

Pikante Vorwürfe gegen die Landtagskandidatin der Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) Petra Federau: Die Schwerinerin hat nach unserer Redaktion vorliegenden Informationen noch vor wenigen Jahren für den in Abu Dhabi ansässigen EliteEscortService „Beauty Escort 4You – German Beautys“ junge Frauen aus der Region angeworben. Teilweise begleitete sie demnach die Frauen selbst zu Einsätzen im arabischen Raum, aber auch in Mecklenburg.

http://www.svz.de/regionales/mecklenburg-vorpommern/sauberfrau-im-zwielicht-id13007491.html

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse
Gutes aus der Region.

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

---FAGNER---
TEAM-MATE
First GaussianCopula makes a very good post about Greeks being dumb about the name of Macedonia in the EuroPol thread, now he makes a great post in this thread. And he actually has sensible opinions about the AfD. This means the Rapture is coming soon, right? :ohdear:

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

GaussianCopula posted:

It seems like the AfD has found someone really qualified to speak about the sexual urges of Arabs


http://www.svz.de/regionales/mecklenburg-vorpommern/sauberfrau-im-zwielicht-id13007491.html

I'm the misspelled beauties, AMA

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010
Qualitätsjournalismus in der SVZ!?

botany
Apr 27, 2013

by Lowtax

waitwhatno posted:

I'm the misspelled beauties, AMA

how you doin :q:

GaussianCopula
Jun 5, 2011
Jews fleeing the Holocaust are not in any way comparable to North Africans, who don't flee genocide but want to enjoy the social welfare systems of Northern Europe.
Sigi Pop is at it again, this time allowing EDEKA to takeover Tengelmann, against the unanimous decision of the Monopolkommission, because it's what the unions want. Never mind that our economy is built on the principle of competition, that's just some neoliberal bullshit I guess.
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtscha...k-14130663.html

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

GaussianCopula posted:

Sigi Pop is at it again, this time allowing EDEKA to takeover Tengelmann, against the unanimous decision of the Monopolkommission, because it's what the unions want. Never mind that our economy is built on the principle of competition, that's just some neoliberal bullshit I guess.
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtscha...k-14130663.html

:psypop:

the SPD is just dumb

Lunar Suite
Jun 5, 2011

If you love a flower which happens to be on a star, it is sweet at night to gaze at the sky. All the stars are a riot of flowers.
Coming off the "the AfD tries to occupy every position at once" thing, there was a pretty good article in the Zeit:
Wie ich auszog, die AfD zu verstehen

They talk about how political parties form from movements, how the momentum - not the ideas or policies, just the existence of momentum promising any alternative to the contemporary power structures - attracts dissatisfied people regardless of affiliation or agenda. They draw some interesting parallels to the formation of the Greens back in the day, which also has a similar quantum policy set until shedding their skin several times and emerging as a beautiful leftist party.

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:
Posted last page, twice, and quoted this page, before your post. ;)

Vodos
Jul 17, 2009

And how do we do that? We hurt a lot of people...

Apparently Guido Westerwelle just died. http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/guido-westerwelle-ist-tot-a-1083096.html

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan
rip

Smirr
Jun 28, 2012

That's terrible. I guess we had plenty of advance warning, but still. Cancer is the worst

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:
I heard his name a lot, but have no idea what he's done in life. What are his achievements?

Edit: Skimming the wikipedia article on him i seem to see only demerits.

Mithaldu fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Mar 18, 2016

Riso
Oct 11, 2008

by merry exmarx

Mithaldu posted:

I heard his name a lot, but have no idea what he's done in life. What are his achievements?

Demanded to be spoken to in German in Germany as German foreign secretary.

ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Riso posted:

Demanded to be spoken to in German in Germany as German foreign secretary.

In fairness, if my party took 15% in federal elections running on a one-word platform (Steuersenkungen!) I'd be unable to put together a coherent sentence in any language the next morning.

Mithaldu posted:

I heard his name a lot, but have no idea what he's done in life. What are his achievements?

Edit: Skimming the wikipedia article on him i seem to see only demerits.

Well he did gaymarry his partner and still managed to secure a coalition with a conservative party. Like, there have to be some cranky old CSU members who resigned in protest.

GaussianCopula
Jun 5, 2011
Jews fleeing the Holocaust are not in any way comparable to North Africans, who don't flee genocide but want to enjoy the social welfare systems of Northern Europe.
RIP Guido Westerwelle
RIP Lothar Späth

Today Germany lost two outstanding politicians.

Mithaldu posted:

I heard his name a lot, but have no idea what he's done in life. What are his achievements?

Edit: Skimming the wikipedia article on him i seem to see only demerits.

Being the first openly gay German vice-chancellor and Foreign Minister, being part of the coalition that reduced German unemployment by 1/3 against the trend in the Eurozone/EU/developed world. Before that he led the FDP from ~6% to ~15%.

System Metternich
Feb 28, 2010

But what did he mean by that?

Man, I feel really bad now, even if I react like vampires to a cross every time the name of his party is said. Guido Westerwelle seemed like a perfectly nice person, especially after he had been booted out of the party leadership, and while he certainly wasn't a great foreign secretary by any means, he still worked really hard at it. gently caress cancer :(

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ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

GaussianCopula posted:

RIP Guido Westerwelle
RIP Lothar Späth

Today Germany lost two outstanding politicians.


Being the first openly gay German vice-chancellor and Foreign Minister, being part of the coalition that reduced German unemployment by 1/3 against the trend in the Eurozone/EU/developed world. Before that he led the FDP from ~6% to ~15%.

Then he led it back to <5%

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