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Imagine how terrifying it would be if american fans and players were banned from fifa sanctioned events. How could the football world cope?
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Feb 29, 2016 11:57
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Did he smash it?
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Feb 29, 2016 13:15
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Byolante posted:Imagine how terrifying it would be if american fans and players were banned from fifa sanctioned events. How could the football world cope? The Womens World Cup would be less exciting, that's for sure.
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Feb 29, 2016 13:55
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davecrazy posted:The Womens World Cup would be less exciting, that's for sure. I'm not sure that's physically possible.
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Feb 29, 2016 14:07
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http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/29/investing/citigroup-fifa-subpoena/quote:U.S. banks are now being questioned in the FIFA corruption scandal that has rocked the sports world.
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Feb 29, 2016 16:29
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Byolante posted:Imagine how terrifying it would be if american fans and players were banned from fifa sanctioned events. How could the football world cope? Wouldn't that pretty much guarantee FIFA being reclassified as a criminal enterprise by the DoJ?
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Feb 29, 2016 22:16
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Sir Unimaginative posted:Wouldn't that pretty much guarantee FIFA being reclassified as a criminal enterprise by the DoJ? well duh, you don't see them going after hard-working patriotic  sports like american football
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Feb 29, 2016 22:28
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Sir Unimaginative posted:Wouldn't that pretty much guarantee FIFA being reclassified as a criminal enterprise by the DoJ? I honestly don't believe that nationalism is as much a factor as some of you seem to be implying. The World Cup thing was much less of a slap in the face than the Chicago Olympics snub was, and they didn't go after the IOC after that. I really do think it just fell into their lap due to FIFA officials' incompetence.
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Mar 1, 2016 06:27
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some of us are joking  although if the doj had two identical cases dropped into their lap, one against fifa and one against (say) the nfl, and they only had the resources to pursue one, i can guess which one they'd go for
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Lutha Mahtin posted:some of us are joking Did you know the NFL was classified as a non profit and was tax exempt until this yr
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Reminder: MOD EDIT: This thread has been so bad that the following will apply from now on: Anyone who mentions American stadiums College football Baseball Will be banned, no exceptions. I encourage all snitches to report any posts which seem like they may be about those subjects, though I may ban you too for being a snitch.
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Gigi Galli posted:Reminder: College football but not the NFL?
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blue footed boobie posted:College football but not the NFL? If it gets bad enough I can add that too.
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#bellENDSports
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Waroduce posted:Did you know the NFL was classified as a non profit and was tax exempt until this yr The NFL was non-profit, but not the teams. So the teams paid taxes, but not the league itself
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Cliff Racer posted:I honestly don't believe that nationalism is as much a factor as some of you seem to be implying. The World Cup thing was much less of a slap in the face than the Chicago Olympics snub was, and they didn't go after the IOC after that. I really do think it just fell into their lap due to FIFA officials' incompetence. If football and FIFA, as this enormous global operation, were less alien to the US then I reckon this would be playing out differently.
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Hoops posted:Whilst fully admitting I haven't been fully keeping up with every detail of the case (or every post in this thread), it does feel to me like there is a factor of American exceptionalism with how they've taken ownership of the entire scandal. They want to show these foreigners that their old-world back-handers don't fly. America is very separate from FIFA and I think that creates an environment that leads the US prosecutors into wanting to flex a bit of extra muscle, and make this a Win For America. Similarly, that's why US posters are super active in this thread. I think it's a lot more that FIFA were loving stupid enough to bribe people using US banks at a time when Switzerland are being forced to lose a lot of face over hilariously illegal banking practices. From Europe there is no aspect of American nationalism involved in the narrative. It's barely relevant. The DoJ arrests are being done by Swiss police. The Swiss are investigating FIFA. Everyone is after FIFA.
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Mar 1, 2016 18:53
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I don't see this whole thing as USA vs FIFA, they are obviously pissed off for losing the WC bids and there are all sorts of business interests at play but at the end of the day Blatter and co are corrupt fucks and someone had to go after them and none of the European pussies were going to do it.
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Yes it's true that the bribes going through the US is the reason they ever had a remit to get involved, but I doubt Loretta Lynch really gives a poo poo about the WC. "None of those European pussies were going to do it" is a more concise version of what I was saying. Edit: as for the Swiss investigation, that's only phase 1 - this is gonna go for years and years and I think the US will be massively taking the lead. Hoops fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Mar 1, 2016 |
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Hoops posted:Whilst fully admitting I haven't been fully keeping up with every detail of the case (or every post in this thread), it does feel to me like there is a factor of American exceptionalism with how they've taken ownership of the entire scandal. They want to show these foreigners that their old-world back-handers don't fly. America is very separate from FIFA and I think that creates an environment that leads the US prosecutors into wanting to flex a bit of extra muscle, and make this a Win For America. Similarly, that's why US posters are super active in this thread. America runs the goddamn world be from a better country or get over it.
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I can't find the link itt, but wasn't there an article that said that the investigation was started by a guy who followed football because he grew up in England? Of course that's just what the government would want you to think if they actually started the investigation in order to get back at FIFA.
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Hoops posted:Yes it's true that the bribes going through the US is the reason they ever had a remit to get involved, but I doubt Loretta Lynch really gives a poo poo about the WC. "None of those European pussies were going to do it" is a more concise version of what I was saying. well no, they'd all been bribed.
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Hoops posted:Whilst fully admitting I haven't been fully keeping up with every detail of the case (or every post in this thread), it does feel to me like there is a factor of American exceptionalism with how they've taken ownership of the entire scandal. They want to show these foreigners that their old-world back-handers don't fly. America is very separate from FIFA and I think that creates an environment that leads the US prosecutors into wanting to flex a bit of extra muscle, and make this a Win For America. Similarly, that's why US posters are super active in this thread. I don't think you understand how little the US government gives a poo poo about FIFA. This isn't a Win For America, or even about not getting the 2022 World Cup. The USDOJ has a real hard-on for rooting out and destroying traditional Organized Crime. Once they realized that's basically what was going on, using American financial resources, US prosecutors are just following the formula for taking down the Mafia. It may be strange for someone outside the US to see things go about this way given the US's political activities in other countries, but this is par for the course when they find this stuff domestically. The only way I could see this playing out differently, is that because FIFA is truly international, it's going a lot slower than it would if they didn't have to wait for extraditions.
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Hoops posted:Yes it's true that the bribes going through the US is the reason they ever had a remit to get involved, but I doubt Loretta Lynch really gives a poo poo about the WC. "None of those European pussies were going to do it" is a more concise version of what I was saying. It will go on long enough that the majority of the people involved will be dead by the time its finished.
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serious gaylord posted:It will go on long enough that the majority of the people involved will be dead by the time its finished. Be that as it may, the whole affair still sends a huge warning to everyone else to clean their act up.
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It wont change a thing.
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Hoops posted:Whilst fully admitting I haven't been fully keeping up with every detail of the case (or every post in this thread), it does feel to me like there is a factor of American exceptionalism with how they've taken ownership of the entire scandal. They want to show these foreigners that their old-world back-handers don't fly. America is very separate from FIFA and I think that creates an environment that leads the US prosecutors into wanting to flex a bit of extra muscle, and make this a Win For America. Similarly, that's why US posters are super active in this thread. They've done very little about old world back handers though. Its all been new world back handers they've been sorting out. I'm not sure they've even arrested a single person from outside the Americas.
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American exceptionalism. Jesus Christ dude. Edit: It's not about let's do this for America. It's about the government catching a massive tax cheat, then looking at the case for all of thirty seconds and being like "Holy poo poo guys! Look at how blatantly corrupt these dudes are! This is like the easiest case in the world!". Having the opportunity to disrupt an international crime ring, where there aren't many political entanglements or skeletons in the closet, you don't have to fear reprisals, and the citizens of the world will applaud you for it is like any law enforcement official's wet dream. CubanMissile fucked around with this message at 10:46 on Mar 2, 2016 |
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Hoops posted:America is very separate from FIFA and I think that creates an environment that leads the US prosecutors into wanting to flex a bit of extra muscle, and make this a Win For America. Similarly, that's why US posters are super active in this thread. american goons are all meatheads who just rah rah anytime our government decides they're going to crack the skulls of some foreigners, no matter the reason. it has nothing to do with SA being an English language website based here you racist twat Lutha Mahtin fucked around with this message at 14:13 on Mar 2, 2016 |
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Lutha Mahtin posted:american goons are all meatheads who just rah rah anytime our government decides they're going to crack the skulls of some foreigners, no matter the reason. it has nothing to do with SA being an English language website based here IAWTP.
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Lutha Mahtin posted:american goons are all meatheads who just rah rah anytime our government decides they're going to crack the skulls of some foreigners, no matter the reason. it has nothing to do with SA being an English language website based here That's certainly a post that a non-nationalist with a sense of perspective would make in a football forum with a pun name.
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Hashtag Banterzone posted:I can't find the link itt, but wasn't there an article that said that the investigation was started by a guy who followed football because he grew up in England? Of course that's just what the government would want you to think if they actually started the investigation in order to get back at FIFA. Not only that... he calls it 'football' instead of 'soccer'. Can you believe that? Wacky!
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I think that Sepp Blatter should be allowed to post in TRP now because he is no longer president of fifa and also because he did nothing wrong.
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The Venezuelan FA ex-president who was arrested along all the other crooks is going to be extradited to New York this Friday and his lawyer said he's going to request he's released on bail for a in his words "cheap" $2m. The Venezuelan FA recently said they are completely broke and they don't even have money to pay the plane tickets for the players...
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loving corrupt scumbags thieving money from the rest of the football world.
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Yeah we took the bribes, so what! Give us our money back!  http://www.espnfc.us/blog/fifa/243/post/2830672/fifa-admits-to-world-cup-hosting-bribes
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spanky69 posted:Yeah we took the bribes, so what! This is unreal. quote:In the claim, lawyers for soccer's world body state: "FIFA has become notable for the defendants' bribery and corruption, not its many good works. Yeah we did it. But now we want restitution for being charged with it because we did not-illegal stuff too.
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spanky69 posted:Yeah we took the bribes, so what! Their argument is that it was just some "bad apples" who took bribes, and that the money really belongs to "football," so the U.S. gov't should please give "football's" money back to "football," AKA FIFA. Basically it's an admission that South Africa only hosted the WC because they paid $10 mil in bribes to FIFA officials. When reached for comment, a South African govt spokesman blew into a vuvuzela while swimming in a pool of tourist money (BTW Russia and Qatar are still OK because they get the WC because obviously corrupt oligarchs and resource-rich autocrats would never bribe anybody) Panama Red fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Mar 16, 2016 |
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blue footed boobie posted:I think that Sepp Blatter should be allowed to post in TRP now because he is no longer president of fifa and also because he did nothing wrong. Still waiting for an answer on this, mods.
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