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Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

crazystray posted:

Calpheon Storage Guide:



You better not be in parcs and rec or we are going to have to move you to goontang

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cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Third World Reggin posted:

You better not be in parcs and rec or we are going to have to move you to goontang
I'll meet him with bread and salt. :colbert:

Stanley Pain
Jun 16, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

kalstrams posted:

I'll meet him with potatoes piled higher than the mountains. :colbert:

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




there is no potato, only kold, dark

Your Eastern European fact of the day - to meet with bread and salt in plenty of Eastern Europe, Latvia notwithstanding, is a very traditional way to welcome, and to show respect to, a guest.

Jackard
Oct 28, 2007

We Have A Bow And We Wish To Use It

Chewbot posted:

I know liking things is not really acceptable, but after playing for about 40 hours I finally got to Calpheon and was super impressed with how pretty and full of of stuff it is.
It reminds me of Amn from Baldur's Gate II

Minsky
May 23, 2001

crazystray posted:

Calpheon Storage Guide:



Phone games have taught me that the cash shop storage expansion for $5 is always Best Value

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008
Honestly I can see why player trading is a bit restricted now. After investing time in making a boat/etc the hard way it took about 3 total days, granted this was putting things into production as the nodes came up. So literally invest in ash node, throw worker at it.

But after about an hour of selective fishing (Literally throwing anything away below 5k, and filling up both me and my boat with orange/blue fish) I had enough money that if I wanted too I could just say "gently caress it" and buy the materials for another boat off the auction system and put another one in build.

If I just said "gently caress leveling" for a bit I could probably provide half the guild boats almost as fast as they could be built provided folks kept selling ash plywood on the AH for 7k each. Granted I could also invest in my nodes and cut the costs down, but that still leaves me doing a lot of hand processing which :effort:

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
sorry i haven't been on the last couple of days ive been busy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sloppy Milkshake
Nov 9, 2004

I MAKE YOU HUMBLE

Rhymenoserous posted:

If I just said "gently caress leveling" for a bit I could probably provide half the guild boats almost as fast as they could be built provided folks kept selling ash plywood on the AH for 7k each.

there's nothing at all wrong wtih this though???

Xavier434
Dec 4, 2002

Rhymenoserous posted:

Honestly I can see why player trading is a bit restricted now. After investing time in making a boat/etc the hard way it took about 3 total days, granted this was putting things into production as the nodes came up. So literally invest in ash node, throw worker at it.

But after about an hour of selective fishing (Literally throwing anything away below 5k, and filling up both me and my boat with orange/blue fish) I had enough money that if I wanted too I could just say "gently caress it" and buy the materials for another boat off the auction system and put another one in build.

If I just said "gently caress leveling" for a bit I could probably provide half the guild boats almost as fast as they could be built provided folks kept selling ash plywood on the AH for 7k each. Granted I could also invest in my nodes and cut the costs down, but that still leaves me doing a lot of hand processing which :effort:

I am purposely acquiring pretty much everything without using the marketplace. I figure that if I don't enjoy the journey enough in a game like this which puts so much emphasis on "life skills" then there is no point in playing it. To each their own of course. This is just how I like to play.

Xexre
Jan 26, 2010

Elder Brother, you're so dreamy
:allears:

Xavier434 posted:

I figure that if I don't enjoy the journey enough in a game like this which puts so much emphasis on "life skills" then there is no point in playing it. To each their own of course. This is just how I like to play. Namaste.

prinnylaharl
Feb 10, 2013

kalstrams posted:

I'll meet him with bread and salt. :colbert:

And I will welcome him with many blowjibs and handjibs.

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008
*happily chomps down on a 5-guys burger whilst learning to cook in his video game*

"Guys i'm learning life skills."

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
HyC told me a story about his brother wanting to build an aluminum smelter in his basement with poor ventilation, and I laughed

now I do that in a video game

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Rhymenoserous posted:

*happily chomps down on a 5-guys burger whilst learning to cook in his video game*

"Guys i'm learning life skills."

eating 5-guys is an excellent life skill

Xavier434
Dec 4, 2002

Eonwe posted:

eating 5-guys is an excellent life skill

You don't get to do this until you have reached "skilled" in burger eating which requires you to first chow down on 700 McDonald's Big Macs. You might be able to reduce that to 550 Big Macs but only if you are eating them while wearing a Ronald McDonald costume that is only available through the cash shop. Life is loving P2W. We should post more about this on Reddit.

Stanley Pain
Jun 16, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

kalstrams posted:

there is no potato, only kold, dark

Your Eastern European fact of the day - to meet with bread and salt in plenty of Eastern Europe, Latvia notwithstanding, is a very traditional way to welcome, and to show respect to, a guest.

And no hard boiled egg? You heathen.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Stanley Pain posted:

And no hard boiled egg? You heathen.
No, I'll keep it to the traditions here.

Probad
Feb 24, 2013

I want to believe!

Rhymenoserous posted:

*happily chomps down on a 5-guys burger whilst learning to cook in his video game*

"Guys i'm learning life skills."

This is me.

LegalPad
Oct 23, 2013

Rhymenoserous posted:

Honestly I can see why player trading is a bit restricted now. After investing time in making a boat/etc the hard way it took about 3 total days, granted this was putting things into production as the nodes came up. So literally invest in ash node, throw worker at it.

But after about an hour of selective fishing (Literally throwing anything away below 5k, and filling up both me and my boat with orange/blue fish) I had enough money that if I wanted too I could just say "gently caress it" and buy the materials for another boat off the auction system and put another one in build.

If I just said "gently caress leveling" for a bit I could probably provide half the guild boats almost as fast as they could be built provided folks kept selling ash plywood on the AH for 7k each. Granted I could also invest in my nodes and cut the costs down, but that still leaves me doing a lot of hand processing which :effort:

The more I think about it, the more I come to terms with the restricted player trading that I really hated at first. It allows players to make a lot of silver doing [thing], while still encouraging them to do [other thing] because not everything can be reliably obtained from other players.

Boat building is a good example of how sometimes it's way more satisfying to have to put in serious effort to achieve something in a game. The accomplishment feels worth the time invested.

Ruggan
Feb 20, 2007
WHAT THAT SMELL LIKE?!


It also makes balancing the economy a lot easier. Supply and demand and meta is hard to predict, and can ripple through all areas of the game. By loosely fixing pricing, they make it way easier to balance drops and loot progression while simultaneously giving players a sense that they're doing something worthwhile.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Probad posted:

This is me.

how does Arus feel about 5 Guys

Horizontal Tree
Jan 1, 2010
I made the mistake of reading a comment chain on a webpage about the game...

quote:

To be honest, as a gay dood, I'm concerned about this too...
But compared to, well, pretty much almost every other MMO with the exception of maybe FFXIV and ESO, every other game has way more female sexualization.
Male gender lock = an ugly brutish thing with overexaggerated muscles, perfect to boost the fanboys nonexistent self esteem.
Female gender lock = characters straight out of porn and with fitting costumes too, perfect to boost the fanboys one handed mastery.

Yes, it bugs very much that every male class bar Giant has a female counterpart (and its not like Giants are exactly sexy even if you're into... that) but every female class does NOT necessarily have a male counterpart (Sorceress, Tamer, Ranger).
However I trust - no , scratch that, I *hope* they'll release their male counterparts in time, and they will have awesome differences that will do our gender justice (a hot dude with a Scythe? lol count me in).
Especially when coming from TERA which has released 4 absolutely broken, female only, WAAAY-too-flashy-compared-to-the-older classes in a row with no plans for balancing them out with any male ones, I'm just thankful I'm at least being somewhat respected as a player.
And even if they released the females first because well, boobies always sell, I'm also very glad that the males have their own characteristics that are just DIFFERENT and not INFERIOR like in TERA and similar games and that gives me hope that they will balance it out soon enough.

TBH I really like the gender-variations system. It makes you pay attention to your character and the enemy character too.
A Blader will fight differently from a Plum. A male and a female Ninja will use different tactics. However a male and a female Wizard (or Witch) will not, since they don't use physical force.

And it makes sense. The two genders are physically unable to fight the same way.
Males are the ones who evolved as hunters with great strength, accuracy, speed and decision making. They can wait for hours to strike their prey with pinpoint precision and force.
Females have evolved to be gatherers and protectors (an equally important task, obviously), having evolved a different kind of strategic decision making more well-suited for managing resources, as well as a natural meticulousness and amazing instincts that are fine-tuned towards protection and preservation.

And yes, it makes a difference. I'm SO tired of seeing half-naked sluts running around facetanking everything and everyone making them cause all they wanna do is check out dat rear end.
NO. STOP.
My male character has to wear half a ton of armor and can still be sexy. If you don't wanna have 3 armor, you're NOT gonna run around naked.
And no, your sluttly bitch CANNOT physically block a full force blow from an armored dude with a 2-meter-long sword and biceps the size of a tree trunk, just because you think that's sexy.

No. You wanna see boobs in a fight? She's gonna die.
You wanna make a female fight like a male? She's gonna die.

And excuse all the salt but I'm honestly so glad about this.
I'm sick and tired of seeing skinny bitches in pink bikinis and high heels in traditional fantasy games, and especially so when they can somehow fight.
But I've had to swallow it all these years, and I've had to be content with a bit of bicep here and there while these pieces of literal moving fanservice were sexually dancing half-naked in a snow-covered field.
And if anyone complained the fanboys were like "nah there's no difference you're just a sensitive douche just quit and kill yourself" before they went back to fapping.
Nah, I'm SO glad that kind of people are gonna be slaughtered in this game.

Other than that I'm just waiting for the male Sorcerer - I'm confident he'll come reasonably soon. A lot of people wanna play males (not just us gay guys) and for once we're gonna be the ones to tell the neckbeards to shut to and go fap elsewhere.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
Thanks for the stuff about Calpheon. The combat is nice but I think I'm going to end up playing this game for the trading so that will be super-useful.

Speaking of which though are there certain goods that can't be sold via NPC trading and have to go via the player Marketplace? In Velia it was easy to tell because all I really made was crates of potatoes and boxes of iron ore, but in Heidal most of the workshops seem to be for weapons/armour/furniture/tools etc which I can't find when I check the trading NPC.

I uninstalled Blade and Soul, this is way more interesting.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
The furniture you craft is for houses, the armor and weapons from workshops are for equipping.

You'll need to fart about with weapon workshops to make your sword go from green to blue, for example.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
Yeah but how do I tell the difference between something I can sell via NPC traders vs something I can't? The way I understand it is the Marketplace is a more traditional player-driven auction house where stuff may or may not sell, while trading via Trade Managers is selling specific goods to NPCs and they're always buying. Is there a way to tell what the Trading Manager will take besides scrolling through the huuuuge list it has? Mainly so I don't do anything like make 1000 swords and cart them across the country only to find the Trade Manager won't buy them.

Kimsemus
Dec 4, 2013

by Reene
Toilet Rascal

Pierson posted:

Thanks for the stuff about Calpheon. The combat is nice but I think I'm going to end up playing this game for the trading so that will be super-useful.

Speaking of which though are there certain goods that can't be sold via NPC trading and have to go via the player Marketplace? In Velia it was easy to tell because all I really made was crates of potatoes and boxes of iron ore, but in Heidal most of the workshops seem to be for weapons/armour/furniture/tools etc which I can't find when I check the trading NPC.

I uninstalled Blade and Soul, this is way more interesting.

Calpheon has enough high tier workshops and labor housing to do whatever you want in the same place. It's important especially because I use a stream of ~20ish laborers running different nodes coming into the city, where I process it centrally then use the warehouse manager to move to other cities to sell. I like being able to do it from one location, especially when I have the extra labor to do some of it myself. Also centralizes my beer production from Northern plantation, which can produce enough on that one plot to fuel my city.

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008

Eonwe posted:

how does Arus feel about 5 Guys

Have you never seen a SFD video? Arus surrounds himself w/far more than 5 guys.

fuck the ROW
Aug 29, 2008

by zen death robot
I'm still a scrublet based in velia (for potatoes and iron/copper) with wheat and pumpkins in Heilda? And one house with a bed in glish that I can get rid of anytime. I'm trying to work out how to move all my production to calephon while keeping connection to at least heidel, if not veila as well for the trade bonuses (farm carts are fast).

Blazing Zero
Sep 7, 2012

*sigh* sure. it's a weed joke

Horizontal Tree posted:

I made the mistake of reading a comment chain on a webpage about the game...

i didnt read this

crazystray posted:

Calpheon Storage Guide:



:allears:

Horizontal Tree
Jan 1, 2010

Blazing Zero posted:

i didnt read this

You made the right call.

Gearhead
Feb 13, 2007
The Metroid of Humor
Been playing a Witch for the past couple of days. The explosions are wonderfully chunky, but I can't help but worry my ability to demolish things is gonna get outclassed by inflating heath eventually.

Dimo ArKacho
Sep 12, 2008

I'm not creative enough to come up with something good
Can I get an invite to the shitshow? I'm on the one with GoonTang and whatever.

Edit: I'm ingame as Dompo btw, family name ArKacho if that matters for anything.

Dimo ArKacho fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Mar 18, 2016

Beo
Oct 9, 2007

Gearhead posted:

Been playing a Witch for the past couple of days. The explosions are wonderfully chunky, but I can't help but worry my ability to demolish things is gonna get outclassed by inflating heath eventually.

Witch is always awesome the only thing that will really ever bother you is mob's damage. The main advantage my valk has is tankiness and how quick you can chuck shields compared to witch cast time. The witch far outclasses it for the sheer size of the area you can devastate.

LegalPad
Oct 23, 2013

Pierson posted:

Yeah but how do I tell the difference between something I can sell via NPC traders vs something I can't? The way I understand it is the Marketplace is a more traditional player-driven auction house where stuff may or may not sell, while trading via Trade Managers is selling specific goods to NPCs and they're always buying. Is there a way to tell what the Trading Manager will take besides scrolling through the huuuuge list it has? Mainly so I don't do anything like make 1000 swords and cart them across the country only to find the Trade Manager won't buy them.

Don't traders buy all trade items? I don't think I've ever not been able to sell something marked as a trade item in the item info.

Luxily
Aug 11, 2012



After 20hour of CONSTANT grinding. I am finally positive!

Fat and Useless
Sep 3, 2011

Not Thin and Useful

Someone asked for a hooker pic.

Codekeeper
Feb 10, 2013

Innocence proves nothing.

Fat and Useless posted:

Someone asked for a hooker pic.



De-level yourself.

Gearhead
Feb 13, 2007
The Metroid of Humor

Beo posted:

The witch far outclasses it for the sheer size of the area you can devastate.

As someone who tries to recreate Master Exploder at any given opportunity, you have no idea how happy this makes me.

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Kimsemus
Dec 4, 2013

by Reene
Toilet Rascal


Hit 50 yesterday, my reign of terror begins. :wooper:

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