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pangstrom posted:Kind of a bigger topic so I won't take it past this but, even if you elide the paycheck aspect: I would argue that work-shy malcontents are (on the whole) the ones who benefit the MOST from having a do-nothing job, since they're at least getting some social skills and professional culture exposure while they get some room to work on what they want to (short of naps and porn etc.). I don't presume to claim that you're not an exception, of course. There are actually jobs out there for profoundly lazy people who want to do nothing all day. Some work crews will hire somebody to just sit in a chair over an open manhole cover so nobody can fall in. In places where you need to be technically a carpool to use certain roads or lanes couriers will sometimes hire a person or two to just sit in the van with them all day so they can use those lanes. I've heard of construction crews hiring somebody to just sit by the tools all day because they had trouble with people stealing them. I'd go crazy doing that kind of job but there are people whose first thought would be "so I can just sit here and look at something all day? And you don't care if I just play with my phone? Yup, I'll take that."
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ToxicSlurpee posted:There are actually jobs out there for profoundly lazy people who want to do nothing all day. Some work crews will hire somebody to just sit in a chair over an open manhole cover so nobody can fall in. In places where you need to be technically a carpool to use certain roads or lanes couriers will sometimes hire a person or two to just sit in the van with them all day so they can use those lanes. I've heard of construction crews hiring somebody to just sit by the tools all day because they had trouble with people stealing them. These are actually "no work" positions that are given to organized crime syndicates as payment for protection. 
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Absurd Alhazred posted:These are actually "no work" positions that are given to organized crime syndicates as payment for protection. Well that's...an interesting little factoid. Is that like all the time or most of the time or...what?
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sbaldrick posted:On-demand stuff maybe work in the core areas of maybe 20 cities on the planet to be generous. For whom? For me as a user, Uber/Lyft mean I have independence not shackled to when the bus (and hence the ADA paratransit) stops running, thank you very much.
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amazon prime now is going to work well in most major cities across the world and local outfits will compete or get their lunch eaten
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Spacewolf posted:
Uber's ADA compliance is not the best example you want to use.
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sbaldrick posted:On-demand stuff maybe work in the core areas of maybe 20 cities on the planet to be generous.
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computer parts posted:Uber's ADA compliance is not the best example you want to use. Not their compliance. Their superiority over the usual options. (Some background: I am blind. No driving for me. ADA paratransit in NJ sucks. Uber is expensive. Lyft ain't entirely cheap either, but is saner. Uber and Lyft would terrible and horrible...But only if you can drive. If you can't, they're a gently caress of a lot better than buses.)
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Well that's...an interesting little factoid. Is that like all the time or most of the time or...what? My source is recently watching The Sopranos, so take that with a grain of salt. 
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Absurd Alhazred posted:My source is recently watching The Sopranos, so take that with a grain of salt. As a native Chicagoan once in a union, that rings true
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Solkanar512 posted:I love those sorts of ads on FB, because you can comment on them. I always get the Soylent ads myself, those are lots of fun. Speaking of, I wonder how Soylent is doing as a company. I looked them up recently and apparently they've improved their product significantly (no more chalky texture or separate bottle of oils it mix in) so I went ahead and ordered some because I always thought the concept was neat. Too bad they chose such a stupid name.
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It still feels like drinking flour in water
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Republicans posted:Speaking of, I wonder how Soylent is doing as a company. I looked them up recently and apparently they've improved their product significantly (no more chalky texture or separate bottle of oils it mix in) so I went ahead and ordered some because I always thought the concept was neat. You should try their competitor, "Ensure".
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computer parts posted:You should try their competitor, "Ensure". Ensure doesn't come with a free pitcher and scoop. 
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foobardog posted:I also know that I'm practically living the dream coming from a great school in a great field that tolerates so much bullshit from me. I just think that really should be the case for everyone. This is how I've felt for the last few years, although I tend to describe it as a kind of economic survivor's guilt at this point. Tech (and development work in particular) really is a kind of ridiculous field at the moment if you aren't killing yourself to work at a company that expects 12 hour days from you.
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Republicans posted:Ensure doesn't come with a free pitcher and scoop. It has less lead and cadmium in it though! Here's what's going on with Soylent's lead and cadmium controversy (lol) http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/aug/17/soylent-unsafe-levels-lead-cadmium Mercury_Storm fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Mar 17, 2016 |
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Mercury_Storm posted:It has less lead and cadmium in it though! Looking up Proposition 65 it almost seems like it would be easier to label foods that don't violate it.
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Republicans posted:Speaking of, I wonder how Soylent is doing as a company. I looked them up recently and apparently they've improved their product significantly (no more chalky texture or separate bottle of oils it mix in) so I went ahead and ordered some because I always thought the concept was neat. Please, don't give those psychos money. There are many better alternatives produced by people who don't make the darkest corners of reddit seem sane. They're also trying to skirt several FDA regulatory classifications that would subject them to greater scrutiny, while copying the design of products that are more fully FDA compliant. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 09:39 on Mar 17, 2016 |
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Mar 17, 2016 09:35
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If only I had discovered Schmoylent sooner. 
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You can make your own soylent for cheap. Coconut flour protein powder, and a few other ingredients. Disrupt the disruptors!
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Republicans posted:Speaking of, I wonder how Soylent is doing as a company. I looked them up recently and apparently they've improved their product significantly (no more chalky texture or separate bottle of oils it mix in) so I went ahead and ordered some because I always thought the concept was neat. The owner killed all the bacteria in his stomach so he wouldn't have to poo poo. This is the man you want to take health advice from.
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ayn rand hand job posted:The owner killed all the bacteria in his stomach so he wouldn't have to poo poo. I still like corn flakes, and Kellogg was a nutjob. Soylent is a disaster, avoid
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ayn rand hand job posted:The owner killed all the bacteria in his stomach so he wouldn't have to poo poo. For one day. He stopped the experiment after one day. You can get the same result by eating a handful of prunes and "evacuating" the day before.
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Wheany posted:For one day. He stopped the experiment after one day. It is more that he did it over the objection of the medical staff he actually has around and is paying to tell him things. If he does that with his own health, you should consider what risks he is willing to take with yours that a doctor specifically told him not to do.
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Cicero posted:Depends on which on-demand stuff you're talking about. A taxi summoning app is pretty awesome in basically any major city...heck it's useful in about any place that could reasonably be called a city, period. And that's true regardless of whether it's Uber or Lyft or a traditional taxi company behind the app. A taxi summoning app is fine, but it's not that hard to really call someone either. On demand dog walking, or shopping doesn't really work.
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sbaldrick posted:A taxi summoning app is fine, but it's not that hard to really call someone either. Why doesn't on-demand shopping work?
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sbaldrick posted:A taxi summoning app is fine, but it's not that hard to really call someone either. My liking the service doesn't mean it's sustainable, but I haven't seen online qualms about Taskrabbit's viability, not since a 2014 shake-up of their business model (referenced in the article I link above).
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ocrumsprug posted:It is more that he did it over the objection of the medical staff he actually has around and is paying to tell him things. If he does that with his own health, you should consider what risks he is willing to take with yours that a doctor specifically told him not to do. Well sure, but not pooping for one day is not some big accomplishment that requires you to megadose on antibiotics to kill your gut flora.
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Wheany posted:Well sure, but not pooping for one day is not some big accomplishment that requires you to megadose on antibiotics to kill your gut flora. Agreed, which is part of why his marketing campaign for Soylent is pure strain 
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Arsenic Lupin posted:My liking the service doesn't mean it's sustainable, but I haven't seen online qualms about Taskrabbit's viability, not since a 2014 shake-up of their business model (referenced in the article I link above). I don't know too much about Taskrabbit and I couldn't find much more information on this after a cursory search, but it doesn't look like they have the same 1099 abuse issues as Uber. Do their contractors have more or less total control over things like rates and equipment?
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Paradoxish posted:I don't know too much about Taskrabbit and I couldn't find much more information on this after a cursory search, but it doesn't look like they have the same 1099 abuse issues as Uber. Do their contractors have more or less total control over things like rates and equipment? Yes, "taskers" set their own rates and provide their own equipment.
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To be clear, the problem of Soylent is about 40% the crazy guy who initially came up with it and 60% the soulless VC firm that now operates and markets it.
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This was forever ago, but is it true google made Vint Cerf submit his transcripts? I mean it says a lot about hiring practice that I believe it could be true, but I'm still somewhat skeptical.
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Discendo Vox posted:To be clear, the problem of Soylent is about 40% the crazy guy who initially came up with it and 60% the soulless VC firm that now operates and markets it. I am in one hundred percent agreement. My big Soylent highlights are Rhineheart's post on how he's saving the earth by not washing his clothes and just buying more when they get dirty, and this Wes-Anderson-movie-meets-a-Mentos-commercial marketing video. It'd be cool if Soylent went bankrupt, but another thread recently reminded me that Second Life is more profitable than ever, so I guess a business can subsist on a fringe group of gross nerds indefinitely.
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Buffer posted:This was forever ago, but is it true google made Vint Cerf submit his transcripts? e: Well, not in the room where it happened, but it came up in a question-answer session.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:It's true. I was there. Wasn't it part of the background check on senior hires, coming after they had made him an offer, rather than part of his evaluation as a candidate?
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Even then, it's a prestige hire - what the hell are you looking for - that Vint Cerf falsified his bachelors and will have to go away to film the resulting sitcom? I mean, holy lol, the level of hubris you have to have to do that.
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Subjunctive posted:Wasn't it part of the background check on senior hires, coming after they had made him an offer, rather than part of his evaluation as a candidate?
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