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VagueRant
May 24, 2012
I know this is completely inappropriate but holy poo poo, Detective Galbraith looks like a movie star.
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2015/12/16/an-unbelievable-story-of-rape?ref=hp-2-112#.lpZGeLBRu

watho posted:

This episode was really good
This feels so weird to say. I mean it's accurate but it's the strange nature of true crime stories. "I really enjoyed that! ...harrowing description of people's unimaginable terror and hopelessness."

turevidar posted:

"It's her own fault because I saw her flirt with a guy at a picnic once and she probably just got in over her head with dirty pictures and wanted a cover story"

eat poo poo Peggy
Read your post before I finished the episode and thought you were being a bit extreme based on what she'd said in the beginning...but then that last part...loving hell.

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Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

imo episodes like this are "good" if they help people understand how horrible it is to be assaulted that way. some people i know irl have privately shared their stories with me about being attacked, and i can honestly say hearing some of that stuff made me feel the angriest i have ever been in my life

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

Yeah with all the Peggy hate it was starting to remind me of the circlejerk hate-off of an old King of the Hill thread, but I just don't know what sort of self-preserving twisted logic has to be in place for her to say what she said at the end. You can hear it in her voice the little internal battle that's going on as she says those words. But she says 'em anyway.

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

Lutha Mahtin posted:

imo episodes like this are "good" if they help people understand how horrible it is to be assaulted that way. some people i know irl have privately shared their stories with me about being attacked, and i can honestly say hearing some of that stuff made me feel the angriest i have ever been in my life

Definitely this. And how having police lean on you enough starts to make you question your own reality.

VagueRant
May 24, 2012
So, goons, whose side are we on in that Pro-Seal, Pro-Beachgoer conflict?

'cause I like the nice lawyer with his stun gun that I mean in court he proved wasn't a stun gun and that's an important technicality and the guy he "stunned" with his "stunning gun type weapon" almost certainly deserved it, over the heavyset voice of "Biker Bobbi" who sounded super reasonable until he turned out to be An Actual Crazy person.

watho
Aug 2, 2013


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

The way that story evolved and escalated was so amazing. Who'd have though people could go so crazy over seals?

I, Butthole
Jun 30, 2007

Begin the operations of the gas chambers, gas schools, gas universities, gas libraries, gas museums, gas dance halls, and gas threads, etcetera.
I DEMAND IT

VagueRant posted:

So, goons, whose side are we on in that Pro-Seal, Pro-Beachgoer conflict?

'cause I like the nice lawyer with his stun gun that I mean in court he proved wasn't a stun gun and that's an important technicality and the guy he "stunned" with his "stunning gun type weapon" almost certainly deserved it, over the heavyset voice of "Biker Bobbi" who sounded super reasonable until he turned out to be An Actual Crazy person.

As opposed to mild-mannered radio host who fired four bullets into a neighbors yard because of loud music

Dear Sergio
Sep 7, 2008

We are a couple, not a duo

watho posted:

The way that story evolved and escalated was so amazing. Who'd have though people could go so crazy over seals?

Yeah, it's hard to sympathize with either side which was cool. They're all a bunch of loving dicks.

VagueRant
May 24, 2012

I, Butthole posted:

As opposed to mild-mannered radio host who fired four bullets into a neighbors yard because of loud music
Oh my god, that was the craziest part! Is he a regular contributor? I was thinking the story was suddenly going to dramatically shift to his court case or something.

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.
Whoa, is this the gay black kid who supported Trump from a couple weeks ago? Could there be two?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=118&v=zWlUgI4cB4M

VagueRant
May 24, 2012
I totally wondered if that was the same dude, but the episode picture for TAL suggests otherwise.

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/580/thats-one-way-to-do-it?act=1

Raar_Im_A_Dinosaur
Mar 16, 2006

GOOD LUCK!!
Uncle Tom's Cabin Rebublicans

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

I'm leaning toward it being him. That facial tic he couldn't suppress when being questioned whether Trump is a racist reminds me too much of my memory of his radio interview.

bad day
Mar 26, 2012

by VideoGames

Kings Of Calabria posted:

For anyone on the fence about Planet Money, listen to the latest episode from the last day or two - it's about public servants who we all thought were heroes but are really just schlubs RAKING IN THE CASH for doing NOTHING most of the time. They showed up to an emergency call for no reason and rushed by our intrepid reporter and her fake-rear end accent! They asked for $75/year from all the six-figure tech guys buying $2m bungalows, gently caress them.

e: 2016 update let us all know that the free market housing situation saved their asses for the time being, all is well for the moochers... but for how long??? I'm aware that overpaid public workers is a thing but this episode seemed more sinister than usual.

I didn't take that away from the episode at all..

What I understand is that we simply have fewer fires these days but various psychological reasons (i.e. Hero Worship) prevent us from realistically budgeting for fire departments. The current status quo is that most firefighters spend most of their time doing things that have nothing to do with fires, and wasteful policies that send a huge fire truck on every 911 call, fire or otherwise.

So the firefighters would be happier if they spent more time fighting fires, and the communities would be better off spending those resources on something they actually need. But that would mean fewer firefighters, fewer "heroes" to worship.

This is a big problem with people in fields like police, military, and health where everybody is a hero and people think they should accept all of the monies to continue being heroes. In reality, though, these are jobs, not unlike other jobs.

Kings Of Calabria
Sep 10, 2013

bad day posted:

I didn't take that away from the episode at all..

What I understand is that we simply have fewer fires these days but various psychological reasons (i.e. Hero Worship) prevent us from realistically budgeting for fire departments. The current status quo is that most firefighters spend most of their time doing things that have nothing to do with fires, and wasteful policies that send a huge fire truck on every 911 call, fire or otherwise.

So the firefighters would be happier if they spent more time fighting fires, and the communities would be better off spending those resources on something they actually need. But that would mean fewer firefighters, fewer "heroes" to worship.

This is a big problem with people in fields like police, military, and health where everybody is a hero and people think they should accept all of the monies to continue being heroes. In reality, though, these are jobs, not unlike other jobs.

I actually agree with you on most of what you said, but I'm talking about it in a broader sense that I've detected from a few episodes. Like ya those guys are milking it and I get that a dude retiring in middle-middle age on six figures is bad - but the theme of this episode and many others is that "$$$ for people that aren't you = bad". So what I mean is that by saying "but where does the money actually GO???" is going to have a lot of "liberals" telling themselves that they technically support unions and strength in numbers etc etc but "we must simply vote against this public funding bill in the name of common sense".

I'm really losing myself by trying to explain what I mean, but maybe I've come across a little?

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe

Kings Of Calabria posted:

I actually agree with you on most of what you said, but I'm talking about it in a broader sense that I've detected from a few episodes. Like ya those guys are milking it and I get that a dude retiring in middle-middle age on six figures is bad - but the theme of this episode and many others is that "$$$ for people that aren't you = bad". So what I mean is that by saying "but where does the money actually GO???" is going to have a lot of "liberals" telling themselves that they technically support unions and strength in numbers etc etc but "we must simply vote against this public funding bill in the name of common sense".

I'm really losing myself by trying to explain what I mean, but maybe I've come across a little?

I get it, but I also didn't get that vibe from the episode. I think American society has gotten to the point where we listen for any breech in the narrative we've constructed for ourselves and immediately go into MUST DESTROY DESSENT mode.

if you think the person speaking is a racist, you'll be listening for something to confirm your point, not listening objectively to see if what they say has any basis in reality, and you can throw any connotative meaning of what they're saying right out the window as you'll be inserting your own.

It's a nationwide problem where if you're not preaching narrative A, then you must be advocating narrative B.

The Modern Leper
Dec 25, 2008

You must be a masochist
I can't' wait till a parent pulls a shotgun on one of the assholes in this first story.

axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

From TAL fb: Ira Glass and Mr. Torey Malatia

Wake_N_Bake
Dec 5, 2003

I love to argue by using all caps. I feel it helps keep people from noticing that I have little or nothing to add to any given conversation. I also
Holy poo poo Ira Glass knows how to smile. I was certain he's never achieved more than a smirk. (Full disclosure I love the guy and TAL)

got some chores tonight
Feb 18, 2012

honk honk whats for lunch...
I don't know if there's a more general "storytelling podcast" thread, but does anyone have any recommendations for specific episodes of other storytelling podcasts? I'd like to listen to some interesting stories for a longer drive I'm taking next week.

High Warlord Zog
Dec 12, 2012
Richard Fidler's Conversations podcast is great, it also pumps out an enormous amount of content so you'll never run out of stuff to listen to.

Try this episode with author David Vann; this one with a Vietnamese prince turned bed and breakfast owner; these interviews (1, 2, 3) with Paul Carter, a storyteller who has lived an amazing life; and this episode about an attempt to fix a horse race that goes hilariously wrong (also, check out the Matthew Condon episodes linked here).

He's also interviewed Ira Glass.

High Warlord Zog fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Apr 1, 2016

Combed Thunderclap
Jan 4, 2011



This week's episode about FGM made me want to smash things.

watho
Aug 2, 2013


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

It was the most awkward I've ever felt during a commute.

life is a joke
Mar 7, 2016
The latest episode of "The Heart" (another amazing radiotopia show) did this same story, but produced much better and with some more details - even if you heard this version already listen to The Heart version, it's way better.

VagueRant
May 24, 2012
Yeah, no, that was really interesting and deeply unpleasant.

On a FAR less serious note, the fill-in host for the week really annoyed me by chiming in with "Mhmm"s and "Yeah"s during Zoe Chace's bit. I was like "guy, have you never listened to this show before?"

dead lettuce
Sep 12, 2014

Are there any Radiotopia shows I should be listening to every week other than 99PI and Criminal (and now The Heart)?

The FGM episode was so heartbreaking.

life is a joke
Mar 7, 2016
My favorite podcast of all time is Love+Radio, it's like atmospheric storytelling (and if you like it there's a guy on SA that makes a similar one called The Lapse which is getting really good). 99 percent invisible is also good and by far their most popular. Actually they're all good, there's only like 13 and there's maybe one or two that don't grab me, IDK what you're into but check out a few, none of them are usually over 30 mins.

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

Theory of Everything is something I always catch, but it might be kinda lefty hipster whinecore or something for the average goon. I've been listening to Benjamin Walker float from program to program since podcasts became a thing, like 2003? So I'm not too objective about it, I just like it.

http://toe.prx.org/

If you can find some of his old stuff, it's like neurotic stories and conversations about things that sound almost real. Nowadays it seems to be mostly critical of the sharing economy and how it's going to make peasants of us all.

doctorfrog fucked around with this message at 02:24 on May 12, 2016

Snuffman
May 21, 2004

dead lettuce posted:

Are there any Radiotopia shows I should be listening to every week other than 99PI and Criminal (and now The Heart)?

The FGM episode was so heartbreaking.

I like The Truth, but I also love radio dramas.

"Silvia's Blood" was a particularly good episode, (it's the episode that hooked me) but all in all its always well produced and good.

Snuffman fucked around with this message at 06:22 on May 12, 2016

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

I feel like there's probably enough to mine for discussion in a dedicated Radiotopia thread among all their podcasts.

Also I like Strangers even if a lot of people dislike Lea Thau's voice. And this very NWS (I guess it's okay if you use headphones?) episode of Love+Radio is hilarious.

GrandpaPants fucked around with this message at 06:28 on May 12, 2016

Wake_N_Bake
Dec 5, 2003

I love to argue by using all caps. I feel it helps keep people from noticing that I have little or nothing to add to any given conversation. I also
People hate Lea Thau's voice? I think it's great.

life is a joke
Mar 7, 2016
I'll make a radiotopia thread tonight if there isn't already one to revive from the dead, I'm a huge fan.

dead lettuce
Sep 12, 2014

Nice, thanks everyone. TOE and Love+Radio are right up my alley, same with The Heart as someone who used to listen to a lot of Savage Love. I've had mixed feelings about the small amount of radio fiction I've listened to on TAL and Snap Judgment but will give The Truth a shot too.

Wake_N_Bake
Dec 5, 2003

I love to argue by using all caps. I feel it helps keep people from noticing that I have little or nothing to add to any given conversation. I also
The Truth is loving excellent. I can't recommend it enough, though some can be hit or miss. Can You Help Me Find My Mom? and You're Not Alone are incredibly moving. Start there if you're curious. The Talk and That's Democracy are also excellent. Those four are easily my favorites. If any of those don't stir up emotions, you're a robot.

KilroyWasHere
Oct 22, 2005
Shocked nobody's mentioned The Memory Palace yet. It's a historical podcast that somehow captures those "holy poo poo" moments you get reading about history and packages it into moving little stories of individuals' experiences. Think the historical stories 99pi runs sometimes, only much more personal.

Combed Thunderclap
Jan 4, 2011



Thank god those kids went to Disneyland by the end because otherwise the Lord only knows what would have happened to my brain out of fury :psyboom:

Although I really can't imagine something more weirdly American than that particular scenario. :911:

SomeJazzyRat
Nov 2, 2012

Hmmm...
Ditto. That story was so heart rending for me. I half expected the change of heart was gonna be an interlude to a tragic end.
'Hey kids, let's go to Disneyland' because I'm dying. 'Let's take a turn over here' so I can tell you what cancer I have. 'Here's some annual passes' so you have something to remember me by.

It's probably telling that every somewhat-middle class family story on the show I hear, I expect the punchline to be 'At 16 my mom died from a rare form of liver cancer. It came and went suddenly, but not so suddenly that she couldn't apologize for being a bad mom and then I comforted her by saying it was the best she did. Now whenever I see a shank of lamb I'm reminded of all the tubes and bits of metal strapped to her that she looked like a bdsm hedgehog.'

VagueRant
May 24, 2012
I found the whole ep pretty boring, to be honest. But I at least found some comfort knowing that they do SOMETIMES change the musical cues on the show. Because oh my god, I am so sick of the current ones.

The Modern Leper
Dec 25, 2008

You must be a masochist
It's a pretty old repeat, so no guarantees that they've changed the modern cues.

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The Modern Leper
Dec 25, 2008

You must be a masochist
Holy ever loving gently caress. Did that short story in this week's episode ever come to a point?

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