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bhsman posted:Oh hey Hobojim and any other Necalli players: in case you missed me sharing this awhile back, here is a very useful punish guide with Necalli that has a recommended punish for most moves against every character. Yeah, that's been my bible when I can't figure out how to punish something. It's tremendously useful and I hope other characters have something similar. Speaking of other characters, FANG is garbage. Terrible damage, comboing into fireball is REALLY negative ON HIT, and his normals are mostly only +1 at best, but he's got a four frame jab as his fastest normal so I hope you like trading during frame traps against characters with 3f jabs. His poison damage ticks way too slowly, too. What a strange character. He does have a sick-rear end mixup off of an anti-air cr.HP though, you can cancel the first hit of it into either light or medium roll to get a left-right mixup. He's no Abel, but it's something. FANG would probably do well against lower-level players who jump a lot and can't deal with mixups off of that alone, but if I'm actually going to use him (spoilers: I won't) I'll need to come up with some good frametraps that might work against the Ryus, Mikas and Necallis of the internet. His meterless combo DOES do a good amount of stun though, but without crush counters you can't even get over 400 damage in a CA combo. Another thing I noticed that I hadn't before: You can't input back charge moves by going from db to df in this game. Considering Necalli has a back charge move I'm surprised this hasn't come up before, but I was trying to do some fun stuff by holding down charge while doing FANG's back charge move and it doesn't work. I've only really messed around with charge characters in KoF; is this normal in SF? I thought you could hold flash kick charge while doing sonic booms, but I've never actually used Guile so I hadn't really tested it. Edit: Huh, now I can only get the cr.HP xx roll to cross under regardless of which button I press. Maybe it's timing related or I just got lucky, I don't know. There goes my fun. Hobojim fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Mar 22, 2016 |
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Mar 22, 2016 19:14
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Yo its kinda bullshit that the game is down all evening (prime time EU) as I've been working like a bitch lately and was looking forward to finally sitting down for a few hours. Anyway this is my street fighter vee story, laters
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Mar 22, 2016 19:15
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Hobojim posted:Yeah, that's been my bible when I can't figure out how to punish something. It's tremendously useful and I hope other characters have something similar. I'm not sure I understand, you can do db -> f for charge moves. e: Oh wait I think I see, you want to maintain a down charge throughout all the frames of the forward charge move
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Mar 22, 2016 19:17
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fozzy fosbourne posted:I'm not sure I understand, you can do db -> f for charge moves Yes, but you can't do db -> df for charge moves, keeping down charge so you can then go d -> u and do it immediately. You lose down charge if you go db -> f.
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Mar 22, 2016 19:18
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Hobojim posted:Yes, but you can't do db -> df for charge moves, keeping down charge so you can then go d -> u and do it immediately. You lose down charge if you go db -> f. This is so you cant keep flash kick charge after throwing a boom
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Mar 22, 2016 19:20
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Hobojim posted:Yes, but you can't do db -> df for charge moves, keeping down charge so you can then go d -> u and do it immediately. You lose down charge if you go db -> f. Yeah I get it now. You mentioned necalli so I was a little confused at first since he doesn't have a down charge, but I see your point now
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Mar 22, 2016 19:22
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dangerdoom volvo posted:This is so you cant keep flash kick charge after throwing a boom Gotcha. That's lame as gently caress. Leona in KoFXIII can do this and it's integral to some of her combos, and the charge time in that game is super quick anyway.
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Mar 22, 2016 19:22
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It's a cool thing that Guile's always had so don't be surprised when he can't do it anymore because "character diversity." Also Urien will probably have none of his cool stuff he used to have either, but I think we all knew that was coming anyways.
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Mar 22, 2016 19:24
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dangerdoom volvo posted:This is so you cant keep flash kick charge after throwing a boom Or rather the you can't keep headbutt charged after low rush
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Mar 22, 2016 19:26
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Baal posted:It's a cool thing that Guile's always had so don't be surprised when he can't do it anymore because "character diversity." Also Urien will probably have none of his cool stuff he used to have either, but I think we all knew that was coming anyways. Okay so he COULD do that in older SF games? I took Dangerdoom's post to mean he couldn't.
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Mar 22, 2016 19:27
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Baal posted:It's a cool thing that Guile's always had so don't be surprised when he can't do it anymore because "character diversity." Also Urien will probably have none of his cool stuff he used to have either, but I think we all knew that was coming anyways. I'm hoping that since Urien will definitely not be 3S Urien they make him into the obnoxious zoner this game deserves.
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Mar 22, 2016 19:28
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For whatever reason, something just clicked inside me and I went from around 900 LP to 1600 in the span of an evening and two 5 win streaks. I also completely crapped all over a 2700 LP Necalli so that helped. Only 400 LP away from silver rank so if I keep grinding I'll hit silver this week, especially since I have friday off. Pretty soon I'll be out of scrub town! Also apparently something awoke in kbrad too, because his Cammy was pretty crappy but had a huge improvement at Final Round. It sucks that SF5's servers will be down tonight, but luckily this place is only 10 min away from my apartment so I think I'm good  
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Mar 22, 2016 19:29
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Dias posted:I'm hoping that since Urien will definitely not be 3S Urien they make him into the obnoxious zoner this game deserves. I'm scared of what they will do to his voice.
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Mar 22, 2016 19:34
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Hobojim posted:Okay so he COULD do that in older SF games? I took Dangerdoom's post to mean he couldn't. You could do a lot of poo poo with Guile. He's been a pretty wacky character as far as charging tech goes, since these games have always been filled with happy accidents like that. Well, used to be anyways.
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Mar 22, 2016 19:35
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inthesto posted:Or rather the you can't keep headbutt charged after low rush Wait, does this mean you can't Headbutt -> Super?
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Mar 22, 2016 19:37
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I don't think he could maintain a flash kick charge through a sonic boom in SF2, am i tripping?
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Mar 22, 2016 19:37
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cloofish posted:I'm scared of what they will do to his voice. *in a squeaky nerd voice* Get ready to *voice cracks* die!
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Mar 22, 2016 19:39
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fozzy fosbourne posted:I don't think he could maintain a flash kick charge through a sonic boom in SF2, am i tripping? Idk about SF2, but in SF4 you maintain down charge through some wacky poo poo and get double flash out of a sonic boom. I'm not entirely sure if you can basic flash kick after it, but I wouldn't doubt it.
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Mar 22, 2016 19:41
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I think I just realized that his name is supposed to be pronounced Er-ien but I always pronounced it Yer-ien, like urine. Kinda like how Uranus is supposed to be pronounced "er-in-us" instead of "your anus". But basically I figured he was always pissed off because he was named after pee
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Mar 22, 2016 19:45
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fozzy fosbourne posted:I don't think he could maintain a flash kick charge through a sonic boom in SF2, am i tripping? no hes always required straight forward for boom
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Mar 22, 2016 19:45
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Gammatron 64 posted:For whatever reason, something just clicked inside me and I went from around 900 LP to 1600 in the span of an evening and two 5 win streaks. I also completely crapped all over a 2700 LP Necalli so that helped. I miss Lost Ark. 
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Mar 22, 2016 19:47
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Sarchasm posted:I miss Lost Ark. Yeah it owns. I'm so lucky to go play fighting games in an actual arcade w/ friends vs. having to be an online warrior in bumfuck Oklahoma or whatever. On the flip side, you lived in Fayettenam and I can't blame you for wanting to get the gently caress outta there. If you lived in Greensboro\High Point\Winston or Raleigh\Durham you'd still probably be here! Playing online will never, ever compare to playing with actual people in person and that applies to way more than just fighting games. It's really kinda sad that local multiplayer is becoming a thing of the past and only fighting games and Nintendo games are keeping that alive. I don't play modern multiplayer FPS games but most of them don't even include 4-player splitscreen anymore and that's just hosed up and sad.
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Mar 22, 2016 19:53
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Gammatron 64 posted:For whatever reason, something just clicked inside me and I went from around 900 LP to 1600 in the span of an evening and two 5 win streaks. I also completely crapped all over a 2700 LP Necalli so that helped. Congrats Gammatron! It always feels nice when you get a decent streak going and things are working out. In the betas I had a 14 game winning streak, which is by far the longest streak I've ever had in a fighting game that wasn't a set against one person. You'll hit that silver sooner rather than later, I'm sure. We should play a few games sometime, I'm always up for a few sets. Also I'm jealous of your local scene.
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Mar 22, 2016 19:54
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Hobojim posted:Congrats Gammatron! It always feels nice when you get a decent streak going and things are working out. In the betas I had a 14 game winning streak, which is by far the longest streak I've ever had in a fighting game that wasn't a set against one person. You'll hit that silver sooner rather than later, I'm sure. We should play a few games sometime, I'm always up for a few sets. Definitely, I just gotta figure out that discord thingy. I'm still pretty rear end, but I'm less rear end than before. I typically don't play online much because I have a lot of local friends and when I do, it's usually with them. I'm usually on a kind of weird cusp where I'm like, semi-casual, semi-competitive because typical non-FGC normies think I'm some kind of insane supermutant who can actually do combos and stuff but I'm also very lazy and ADHD and never practice as much as I should and typically go 0-2 in tournies b\c I'm bad I also got bored of SF4 and quit it multiple times throughout its lifespan for years at a time. Before the launch of SF5 there was like a 2+ year period where I didn't watch streams or go out to tournaments or really give much of a poo poo, but honestly I wasn't the only one and was probably in the majority here
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Mar 22, 2016 20:04
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Gammatron 64 posted:I think I just realized that his name is supposed to be pronounced Er-ien but I always pronounced it Yer-ien, like urine. Kinda like how Uranus is supposed to be pronounced "er-in-us" instead of "your anus". It's yoo-ree-ahn ユリアン
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Mar 22, 2016 20:06
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HoboWithAShotgun posted:If they just released it on Steam I'd buy it on day 1, but I'm not going to bother risking unstable drivers on W10. same. E: LOL at the hardcore believers thinking its down for the patch coming out today. 
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Mar 22, 2016 20:10
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Baal posted:Idk about SF2, but in SF4 you maintain down charge through some wacky poo poo and get double flash out of a sonic boom. I'm not entirely sure if you can basic flash kick after it, but I wouldn't doubt it. Most (all?) charge Supers/Ultras that start in down+back can be done with completely horizontal inputs in the middle. Vanrushal fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Mar 22, 2016 |
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Mar 22, 2016 20:21
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At this point I'll be surprised if THE MARCH PATCH actually comes out in march, they haven't said a drat thing about it in a while.
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Mar 22, 2016 20:59
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The March Patch will be a small update that changes the menus that inform you that the store and story mode are coming in March to say that they're coming in April instead. It will be released on March 31st.
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Mar 22, 2016 21:01
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At 11:58 PM EST
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Mar 22, 2016 21:10
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AnonSpore posted:It's yoo-ree-ahn ユリアン / 
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Mar 22, 2016 21:10
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Yer killin' me, Capcom. Yer killin' me. Like, forget Alex, I'd be happy just to get lobbies of more than 2 people and challenge mode. And a way to get colors without that retarded survival crap. Capcom pls
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Mar 22, 2016 21:12
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cougar cub posted:At 11:58 PM EST Nah they'll be working off Samoan timezone.
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Mar 22, 2016 21:13
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Dracula Factory posted:At this point I'll be surprised if THE MARCH PATCH actually comes out in march, they haven't said a drat thing about it in a while. It sucks but they can't really drop a new character like 3 days before a big tournament (NCR)
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Mar 22, 2016 21:14
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Help Im Alive posted:It sucks but they can't really drop a new character like 3 days before a big tournament (NCR) Well, they can. They just have to do the MKX thing and ban it for that tournament.
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Mar 22, 2016 21:16
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Help Im Alive posted:It sucks but they can't really drop a new character like 3 days before a big tournament (NCR) Gee, it's almost like trying to plan a release schedule around tournaments is a stupid loving idea.
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Mar 22, 2016 21:24
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Help Im Alive posted:It sucks but they can't really drop a new character like 3 days before a big tournament (NCR) there's a CPT tournament every week for the foreseeable future.
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Mar 22, 2016 21:26
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Baal posted:Gee, it's almost like trying to plan a release schedule around tournaments is a stupid loving idea. If a character comes out like, the day before a tournament, they could just, I dunno, not download the character yet and have the character available at the next one after people have to time to try it out. You don't even need a soft ban, just don't download him yet. AFAIK they're not doing any balance changes to existing characters either so NBD
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That is also true, but it's not gonna happen.That being said the patches are also coming with OS removals here and there so technically those are balance changes.
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