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That may be the dumbest pen name I've ever seen. The villain from the D&D cartoon and a documentary on Anton LaVey. Combined with the shaved head and terrible beard in what I assume is a tribute to LaVey. That would have been shocking and edgy in the 90's.
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Evil Mastermind posted:Oh good, it's been a while since the last one of these. People are just so mad about the most reasonable take-down process and email notification in history.
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Mar 22, 2016 20:05
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Let me warn the rest of us that don't know what Alpha Blue is: That link is pretty NWS.
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Mar 22, 2016 20:45
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He really should be dancing around with an open bottle of champagne, because it's about the best publicity he can hope for short of taking a bullet in the gut from some SJW boogeyman. As one commenter said, "Congratulations on being visible enough to get censored." But then, he made it into the realm of facial hair without working out that rape isn't sexy, so that level of self-awareness seems unlikely.
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Mar 22, 2016 20:58
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 he looks like that loving GG dude with the fake skull.And of course it's an old school blog. Anyways I don't think this actually is much publicity. Nobody heard of this before. And I don't think anyone will hear about it now.
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Mar 22, 2016 21:04
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LordSaturn posted:Let me warn the rest of us that don't know what Alpha Blue is: That link is pretty NWS. Alien Rope Burn posted:He really should be dancing around with an open bottle of champagne, because it's about the best publicity he can hope for short of taking a bullet in the gut from some SJW boogeyman. As one commenter said, "Congratulations on being visible enough to get censored." Seriously, why the gently caress do people defend this poo poo?
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Mar 22, 2016 21:04
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Perversion, geek social fallacies, or some uncomfortable combination of the two. 
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Mar 22, 2016 21:07
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EM at a certain point it feels like you're looking for this stuff. I have no idea what OBS or who that Sean person is. There's a reason nobody but this industry uses G+. I would've never known what any of this was without attention being drawn to it.
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Mar 22, 2016 21:10
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OBS=OneBookshelf=The parent company of DTRPG/RPGnow, etc, etc.
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Mar 22, 2016 21:19
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ProfessorCirno posted:EM at a certain point it feels like you're looking for this stuff. I have no idea what OBS or who that Sean person is. There's a reason nobody but this industry uses G+. I would've never known what any of this was without attention being drawn to it. Like, I'm not trying to do g.txt stuff here. I'm not. But sadly this is industry news. Yeah, it's just Tournament of Rapists: Take II, but it's centered on the main digital distribution site of the industry. I mean, if people want me to stop posting stuff like this I will. I'm not trying get people frothed up because I know my automatic reaction to things like this is rage.
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Mar 22, 2016 21:19
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OBS = OneBookShelf = RPGNow. Sean Patrick Fannon = small-time RPG writer = but bigger-time than Mr. Satanis.
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Mar 22, 2016 21:28
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Evil Mastermind posted:Erik Tenkar is already going "well now I have to review this!" like it's his loving duty. I'm only aware of all this because of Tenkar's blog, but I kind of look forward to this, since he's not a fan and his last interaction with this guy led to a blog post entitled "The Tavern is not a Whore and other thoughts" with a scintillating comment thread. I think the only hay to be made from the whole thing is that it was supposedly already behind the adult content filter on OBS, so... I dunno, someone still complained about it? Edit: Which I'm fine with, if they got a complaint and are following their policy by pulling it for review pending a decision, that's fine. That said, while I like Tenkar's blog, but I'll be ignoring the comments for a while, since whenever this sort of thing comes up politics start to bleed into them. Glorified Scrivener fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Mar 22, 2016 |
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Mar 22, 2016 21:39
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Yeah, Tenkar's a pretty level headed dude, he only really reviews controversial poo poo because his site highlights all the trainwrecks in the tradgame world. Particularly sketchy kickstarters.
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Mar 22, 2016 21:51
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I think it's perfectly relevant as long as folks keep it in perspective. It'll be notable to see what OBS does, but the game itself isn't particularly interesting.
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gnome7 posted:People are just so mad about the most reasonable take-down process and email notification in history. There are too many such idiots like that in the hobby, and I'm not sure why G+ seems to be crossing over with the gutter that is places like theRPGsite. If I had to guess...well, I'm a prematurely aged, cranky old fart who thinks that G+ and Twitter encourage people to act like teenagers--feeling that everything happening right now is super important and the biggest deal ever, and repeating rumours and immediate reactions without examining the source. It's tailor-made to make attention-seeking loonies seem more numerous and important than they really are. But I think we're still talking about the paranoid fantasies of a small minority. I'm surprised if anyone is actually defending Venger Satanis at all. Regarding him as a laughingstock seems like something everyone on every RPG forum can agree on. I also forgot that he's not a teenager. He certainly still seems like a teenager who just discovered Lovecraft at the same time he discovered death metal and pornography.
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Mar 22, 2016 22:15
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James Raggi posted:The tone and content of these arguments really are identical to Satanic Panic-era nonsense.
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I strongly suspect that G+ is popular with that crowd simply because it's a competently-designed discussion space where it's next to impossible to get banned for being a shithead. They would never say it that way, but an awful lot of the people who say they find G+ to provide better conversations are the same people who can't help but get banned from every forum with any semblance of moderation. On the other hand there are people who are the targets of abuse who use it because it gives them control over who they share their posts with, so it's not entirely the domain of terrible people. There's a general trend of regressive free speech maximalism, which somehow is never actually brought out in defense of anything especially worthwhile, but is always poised to defend the latest rapegame against the SJW boogeyman.
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Halloween Jack posted:There are too many such idiots like that in the hobby, and I'm not sure why G+ seems to be crossing over with the gutter that is places like theRPGsite. If I had to guess...well, I'm a prematurely aged, cranky old fart who thinks that G+ and Twitter encourage people to act like teenagers--feeling that everything happening right now is super important and the biggest deal ever, and repeating rumours and immediate reactions without examining the source. It's tailor-made to make attention-seeking loonies seem more numerous and important than they really are. Guilty Spork posted:I strongly suspect that G+ is popular with that crowd simply because it's a competently-designed discussion space where it's next to impossible to get banned for being a shithead. They would never say it that way, but an awful lot of the people who say they find G+ to provide better conversations are the same people who can't help but get banned from every forum with any semblance of moderation. On the other hand there are people who are the targets of abuse who use it because it gives them control over who they share their posts with, so it's not entirely the domain of terrible people. That said, while I know I tend to have a knee-jerk anger reaction to this sort of thing, I think the industry/hobby is small and insular enough that it's hard to not at least get clipped by something like this. Or maybe I'm just overreacting, which is probably the case.
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It's just a ploy for attention. He knows perfectly well his target audience is people that already shop at Raggi's storefront and he'd get a better cut there anyway. I'm gonna go back to forgetting this guy exists.
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Mar 23, 2016 00:11
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That Venger Satanis guy's been posting that cover artwork with less than a tenth of the lady's chest covered up by a non-bikini at least once a week for months now, so my surprise was really more that it didn't happen earlier. I also always mistake him for the Dark Enlightenment dude with the skull and the cigarettes and the brandy in his videos railing against feminism. And this is like the second time that people have come out saying "well what about Lamentations of the Flame Princess? What then?" Sure, any day now, guys
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gradenko_2000 posted:I also always mistake him for the Dark Enlightenment dude with the skull and the cigarettes and the brandy in his videos railing against feminism. fifteen thousand dollars Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Mar 23, 2016 |
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DalaranJ posted:It's just a ploy for attention. He knows perfectly well his target audience is people that already shop at Raggi's storefront and he'd get a better cut there anyway. Pretty much. There's no stakes here. His book was pulled for review and will, in all likelihood, get switched back to public in two weeks or less with no further hassle. If somehow it does get taken down, then not-Aurini can use that to make a little more noise and then move his book to some other storefront, whereupon it will languish at the bottom barrel of mediocrity for the rest of eternity. At most, he's inconvenienced for a couple weeks. DriveThru doesn't give a poo poo because they're Drivethru and there's thousands of titles that sell better.
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At this point, there are several people in the business who really are only notable at all for stirring up poo poo. Without the skeletons to rail against, Chris Fields and that Grim guy are just mediocre D20 bandwagoners, plying their trade years after the wagon ran out of gas.
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Halloween Jack posted:At this point, there are several people in the business who really are only notable at all for stirring up poo poo. Without the skeletons to rail against, Chris Fields and that Grim guy are just mediocre D20 bandwagoners, plying their trade years after the wagon ran out of gas. Controversy is a way to hide their crippling lack of talent.
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Mar 23, 2016 02:57
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G+ is popular with this industry for the same reason it was cripplingly unpopular outside of the industry.
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Slimnoid posted:Controversy is a way to hide their crippling lack of talent.
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Reminder (probably not needed by many in this thread) that Venger Satanis was banned from RPG.net for literally cursing the userbase because they didn't like his lovely edgelord elfgame.
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Mar 23, 2016 05:49
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How is this even an issue? The game is self described as a porn game on that site and that email is the nicest "Censorship" ever they just made it private instead of public for two weeks. how can you even fake rage at this???
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Reminder (probably not needed by many in this thread) that Venger Satanis was banned from RPG.net for literally cursing the userbase because they didn't like his lovely edgelord elfgame. DriveThruRPG hosed with the wrong guy on this one. Does anyone at OneBookShelf know how to draw the Elder Sign?
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Evil Mastermind posted:Like, I'm not trying to do g.txt stuff here. I'm not. But sadly this is industry news. Yeah, it's just Tournament of Rapists: Take II, but it's centered on the main digital distribution site of the industry. Never stop. Reading about obtuse shitlords with horrible opinions makes me appreciate the (relatively) sane people on this forum all the more. EDIT: Well, poo poo. Apparently Raggi is going to be at a local con I'm going to this weekend. Maybe I should get him to sign a printout of this thread. 
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ProfessorCirno posted:G+ is popular with this industry for the same reason it was cripplingly unpopular outside of the industry. Why's that? Also is it worth signing up for G+ to interact with RPG people?
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On a whim, I looked at bestsellers on DTRPG. Turns out that the multi-Ennie-winning Red & Pleasant Land, the one that shows that the anti-skeleton bits of the OSR are a real force of nature taking over the RPG space, is an electrum bestseller on DTRPG. BLACK SEVEN is also an electrum bestseller. I pretty much never advertise, don't submit to awards because they're all shitshows, and only tweet about it occasionally when a sale's on or something. I also don't have a fleet of human filth who hang on my every word to target my enemies and buy my stuff (that I know of). Bwa-ha-ha-ha.
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Arivia posted:Why's that? G+ ended up being super antisocial. It was really easy to make your own private bubble of interaction while still allowing you to "invade" others' spaces - single users could ignore you or w/e, but there was no being "banned" like you would from forums. It never took off like Facebook did so it lacked the group functions and event planning, and because of how sharing worked, you didn't get big sweeps of popularity like you get on twitter, or easily passed around content and fandom like you get on tumblr. G+ is really good if you want to rant towards a selectively chosen group of people who can never judge you, and...not much else. DigitalRaven posted:On a whim, I looked at bestsellers on DTRPG. Turns out that the multi-Ennie-winning Red & Pleasant Land, the one that shows that the anti-skeleton bits of the OSR are a real force of nature taking over the RPG space, is an electrum bestseller on DTRPG. I laughed really hard when looking up information on Monster Hearts, and found that it has been nominated for just about every major RPG award out there...except the ENnies.
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For all the hype it received (well... hype by the industry's standards), I remember being very underwhelmed by Red and Pleasant land. It's a take on Caroll's work that leaves behind the original work's surrealism, child-like logic, and sense of play. The art was nice, though some of the pieces in there looked suspiciously inconsistent, like they were mostly copied off other works. Can't prove that, though, just a feeling I got as a (mostly mediocre) artist myself.
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ProfessorCirno posted:G+ is really good if you want to rant towards a selectively chosen group of people who can never judge you, and...not much else. Don't forget that it's really good for enabling stalkers and harassers, too.
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ProfessorCirno posted:I laughed really hard when looking up information on Monster Hearts, and found that it has been nominated for just about every major RPG award out there...except the ENnies.
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The ENnies are well-weighted towards D&D and d20, owing to the fact that ENWorld was originally a d20 (i.e. D&D 3e) site and publisher. It should just be a set of awards solely for F20 games - which would be more honest and play to their strengths - rather than pretending to be a general RPG award show. And I'm saying as somebody who's been on the ENnies stage for d20 work. So it goes.
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There's also the fact that the ENies are awarded based on public ballot, so they don't go to the best games, they go to the ones with the biggest fanbase. If a category has a D&D or Pathfinder product, that product wins. That's all there is to it.
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Evil Mastermind posted:There's also the fact that the ENies are awarded based on public ballot, so they don't go to the best games, they go to the ones with the biggest fanbase.
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