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Savidudeosoo posted:I will, till the day I die, argue for Age of Ultron's mediocracy I really liked Tony Stark in Age of Ultron. It feels like a continuation of everything that happened to him in Iron Man 3 and his fear of what will happen to the world if he cannot personally keep things under control. Age of Ultron made him out to be the villain, not Ultron who as far as I saw it was just an extension of Stark. Ultron is all of Starks demons. I watched the Iron Man trilogy over the weekend, and i'm not good at words but it made me appreciate Age of Ultron a lot more when you look at the film from the perspective of Tony Stark and everything that happened in the Iron Man movies.
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Age of Ultron was so weird because when I was watching it with my nephews they got bored and wanted to turn it off. They've really liked every other Marvel movie they've watched.
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I said come in! posted:Age of Ultron made him out to be the villain, Except for the part where he solves everyone's problems using the exact same thought process and experiments that made Ultron?
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Pirate Jet posted:Except for the part where he solves everyone's problems using the exact same thought process and experiments that made Ultron? He doesn't solve anyone's problems tho? He stops Ultron, but leaves the entire world in complete and utter fear of super heroes, hence the setup to Civil War. Everything about Tony Stark is preventing threats before they begin, the whole problem with Nick Furry in the Winter Soldier.
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I said come in! posted:He doesn't solve anyone's problems tho? He stops Ultron, but leaves the entire world in complete and utter fear of super heroes, hence the setup to Civil War. Everything about Tony Stark is preventing threats before they begin, the whole problem with Nick Furry in the Winter Soldier. All the world's problems would dissapear if Tony would just man up an eat a bullet. The guy thinks the entire world is an extension of the estate he grew up living in, and acts surprised when the servants don't applaud the latest vase he has knocked over
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Rough Lobster posted:EXCELSioorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Staaaaaaaaan!
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I said come in! posted:He doesn't solve anyone's problems tho? He stops Ultron, but leaves the entire world in complete and utter fear of super heroes, hence the setup to Civil War. Everything about Tony Stark is preventing threats before they begin, the whole problem with Nick Furry in the Winter Soldier. We're not judging the sequels, we're judging Age of Ultron, the movie where, using the exact same process that created Ultron, Tony Stark creates Vision, a character whose sole purpose is to destroy Ultron, which he does.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Avengers 2 isn't as bad as some people say on this forums (it's the internet message board effect, where everything is THE BEST or THE WORST ever), but the all CGI fight choreography, like Hulk vs Hulk Buster or Tony vs Ultron or Vision vs Ultron, is so much better than the live action choreography. The live actors are all directed in really weird ways. It is especially noticeable because of how good the choreography is in Ant-Man and Winter Solider. Or even just the CGI scene 20 minutes earlier in Ultron. Ant-Man has some really cool, really creative fight scenes where they use their powers against each other in fun ways. I love it. Like, the fight between Ant-Man and the Falcon is so loving boss. It also ends with a divorced family treated as a normal thing, which is super rare in Hollywood movies. I liked that.
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My Ultron hype came from James Spader and the marketing team deciding to add the Disney song in the trailer, which was a slick move. I was on board. But if you asked me what my favorite part was, I couldn't tell you because the whole movie just...had nothing memorable? Nothing stuck. It's a hard to explain thing - I'm not a film critic, I don't know how to break these elements down. I saw Deadpool once but I feel like I have the whole movie in my head, and going in I didn't even like Deadpool. I'm struggling to remember moments from Age of Ultron and I saw that twice. MonsieurChoc posted:Ant-Man has some really cool, really creative fight scenes where they use their powers against each other in fun ways. I love it. Like, the fight between Ant-Man and the Falcon is so loving boss. I liked Ant-Man a lot, I'd like to see more Ant-Man.
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Tom Gorman posted:I liked Ant-Man a lot, I'd like to see more Ant-Man.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Ant-Man has some really cool, really creative fight scenes where they use their powers against each other in fun ways. I love it. Like, the fight between Ant-Man and the Falcon is so loving boss. I was so disappointed with super hero movies last year (especially after how awesome 2014 was) that I skipped Ant-Man. I will have to watch it before Civil War, it is good to hear stuff like this!
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Guy A. Person posted:I was so disappointed with super hero movies last year (especially after how awesome 2014 was) that I skipped Ant-Man. I will have to watch it before Civil War, it is good to hear stuff like this! It's far from perfect, but it's good parts are worth it and they also happen to be things other super hero movies usually get wrong, so it's a nice change of pace. I also skipped Ant-Man at first and only watched it when it came on Netflix.
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Tbh I feel like Ant-Man was saved by the fact that Edgar Wright was working on it at one point and it's really obvious which parts were his and which weren't.
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achillesforever6 posted:I should feel sorry for Joss after all the stress that it took to make the film, but then again a lot of it was self inflicted I had an argument with a friend about Age of Ultron where I argued that Marvel's problem was not that they cut up Joss Whedon's script so much, but that Joss Whedon wrote a loving 3 1/2 hour movie and Marvel said "yeah go ahead and film that" instead of "gently caress you Joss, go make a movie that won't be cut to shreds". He was totally fine with the idea of a 3 1/2 hour Age of Ultron, which is right above a 3 1/2 hours of a blank screen in terms of "things I want to watch".
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My favorite part of Age of Ultron was the score. Elfman's best work in a while. He does good themes!
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I didn't see Ant-Man specifically because Edgar Wright didn't end up doing it.  Probably still will eventually. Which is the way I watch most of these, actually. Deadpool was the first one in a long time I wanted to see in theaters.
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I said come in! posted:I'm the only person in the entire world that liked this movie. Plenty of people liked the movie. It's just a loving trash fire.
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Pirate Jet posted:We're not judging the sequels, we're judging Age of Ultron, the movie where, using the exact same process that created Ultron, Tony Stark creates Vision, a character whose sole purpose is to destroy Ultron, which he does. In the same movie it's also made abundantly clear that the public now hates the Avengers, so much so that they have to take cover at Hawkeye's little house in the prairie. Creating Vision does not undo that.
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Grendels Dad posted:In the same movie it's also made abundantly clear that the public now hates the Avengers, so much so that they have to take cover at Hawkeye's little house in the prairie. Creating Vision does not undo that. Public approval was a non-factor outside of Stark's celebrity status.
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Cythereal posted:On the subject of a new and exciting pointless slapfight, press reviews of BvS are starting to roll in, and they're not positive.
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Woah... Why had I not seen this before? What a great way to start my day.
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Snowman_McK posted:Public approval was a non-factor outside of Stark's celebrity status. Then why was that bit about public approval in the movie? Also, how is Stark's celebrity status irrelevant? The man lives and dies by how many friends he has on Facebook.
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Reviews are starting to pour in for BvS: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/batman_v_superman_dawn_of_justice/ Surprise, it's crap!
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Doflamingo posted:Reviews are starting to pour in for BvS: I bet superman doesn't even yell 'THIS ENDS NOW'
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Doflamingo posted:Reviews are starting to pour in for BvS: It's still likely going to destroy the box office so meh. It won't have legs, but it'll probably be front-loaded.
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Doflamingo posted:Reviews are starting to pour in for BvS: Netflix it is, then.
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teagone posted:It's still likely going to destroy the box office so meh. It won't have legs, but it'll probably be front-loaded. It'll do TRANSFORMERS business: A movie that no one seems to like but rakes it in anyway.
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It's big dumb action schlock. It will make big dumb action schlock money.
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One positive takeaway I've been reading that seems pretty consistent amidst all the pre-release backlash is Gal Gadot rocks as Wonder Woman. I'm a bigger fan of Wonder Woman comics than Batman or Superman, so hearing that is good enough for me  Gives me hope that Patty Jenkins will make Gadot's solo debut a homerun.
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Since we're talking about the Avengers, I've been wanting to ask this. As someone who just watches the movies and doesn't read comics, shouldn't Stark and Rogers should be on the opposite sides in Civil War? The libertarian industrialist Tony "You want my property well you can't have it" Stark is all pro government regulation while the ultimate orders following soldier is heavily in favor of unchecked vigilantism? I know they tried to set up some of that in Winter Soldier with SHIELD, but it still really feels off to me.
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teagone posted:One positive takeaway I've been reading that seems pretty consistent amidst all the pre-release backlash is Gal Gadot rocks as Wonder Woman. I'm a bigger fan of Wonder Woman comics than Batman or Superman, so hearing that is good enough for me I'm also hearing that Ben Affleck is a pretty great Bats aside from the fact that he movie spoiler:kills people now.
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That's one of the things that makes perfect sense - the man out of time struggling to realize what's off about the present day versus a flippant capitalist who treats his so called friends like employees.
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Pirate Jet posted:Tbh I feel like Ant-Man was saved by the fact that Edgar Wright was working on it at one point and it's really obvious which parts were his and which weren't. I like people saying this. So care to tell me which parts were his and which weren't?
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:That's one of the things that makes perfect sense - the man out of time struggling to realize what's off about the present day versus a flippant capitalist who treats his so called friends like employees. I was trying to connect this post to BvS for a moment. The next few months should provide some entertainingly confusing discussions. counterfeitsaint posted:Since we're talking about the Avengers, I've been wanting to ask this. As someone who just watches the movies and doesn't read comics, shouldn't Stark and Rogers should be on the opposite sides in Civil War? The libertarian industrialist Tony "You want my property well you can't have it" Stark is all pro government regulation while the ultimate orders following soldier is heavily in favor of unchecked vigilantism? I know they tried to set up some of that in Winter Soldier with SHIELD, but it still really feels off to me. At least for Cap you can say that he has always been against preemptive strikes, rule through fear and so forth. Whatever legislation starts the Civil War seems to be more of the same stuff Hydra tried to pull off, but this time it's totally not Hydra!
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Grendels Dad posted:This time it's totally not Hydra! One thing I've learned from the MCU, it's always Hydra. Always.
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teagone posted:It's still likely going to destroy the box office so meh. It won't have legs, but it'll probably be front-loaded. Speaking from purely personal experience (when I went online earlier today to see if I could get a ticket for tomorrow, which is opening say here in Australia) it's doing good business but it's nowhere near doing Avengers business. None of the sessions in the biggest cinema in my city were sold out. I would have had real problems trying to find a ticket for the first Avengers movie the day before its release. Grendels Dad posted:At least for Cap you can say that he has always been against preemptive strikes, rule through fear and so forth. Whatever legislation starts the Civil War seems to be more of the same stuff Hydra tried to pull off, but this time it's totally not Hydra!
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Deakul posted:I'm also hearing that Ben Affleck is a pretty great Bats aside from the fact that he movie spoiler:kills people now. A movie where Batman kills is nothing new.
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Sometimes, just sometimes, once in a blue moon, if you're lucky, you can catch a glimpse of the real SuperMechagodzillaSuperMechagodzilla posted:Plenty of people liked the movie. It's just a loving trash fire.
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