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Equeen posted:A movie where Batman kills is nothing new. In fact, if you include "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you" deaths (which would at least count as negligent homicide or perhaps voluntary manslaughter) then the only Batman film where he doesn't cause any deaths is Batman and Robin. That includes Batman 1966. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psVIG7YvdjM
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:In fact, if you include "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you" deaths (which would at least count as negligent homicide or perhaps voluntary manslaughter) then the only Batman film where he doesn't cause any deaths is Batman and Robin. That includes Batman 1966. I'm pretty sure Bane bites it in B&R, and possibly some random goons. That might be on Robin though, he's a loose cannon! Grendels Dad fucked around with this message at 13:56 on Mar 23, 2016 |
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The big problem I have with Ant Man is what it could have been. You see Edgar Wright's hands all over the movie, and in the action sequences, but they're missing that extra layer of energy that he always brings into his direction. It's like you keep waiting for it to hit that rhythm and it never does - the whole movie just comes off as one giant tease to me.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Speaking from purely personal experience (when I went online earlier today to see if I could get a ticket for tomorrow, which is opening say here in Australia) it's doing good business but it's nowhere near doing Avengers business. None of the sessions in the biggest cinema in my city were sold out. I would have had real problems trying to find a ticket for the first Avengers movie the day before its release.  Almost every news outlet/blog reported that BvS already pre-sold more movie tickets on Fandango than any other superhero movie in history.
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counterfeitsaint posted:Since we're talking about the Avengers, I've been wanting to ask this. As someone who just watches the movies and doesn't read comics, shouldn't Stark and Rogers should be on the opposite sides in Civil War? The libertarian industrialist Tony "You want my property well you can't have it" Stark is all pro government regulation while the ultimate orders following soldier is heavily in favor of unchecked vigilantism? I know they tried to set up some of that in Winter Soldier with SHIELD, but it still really feels off to me. Cap's first "mission" was disobeying orders and parachuting into enemy territory to rescue his buddies. He's always been a guy who does the right thing first, and a soldier second. Meanwhile, Tony's had several movies since his "I've privatized world peace" speech, in which he's shown to be terrified of metahumans and the enemies that come with them (Iron Man 3) and realizing that his efforts to protect the world himself go horribly awry (Age of Ultron). I think in Civil War he's humbled and accepts that he and the others need oversight, and he's just going way overboard with it because he's scared. When he's in the suit he's an Avenger, but when he's not hes just another normal human scared shitless of the Hulk.
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Just saw Batman v Superman. It's about as dumb a movie as I expected it to be. Everything story element you came to expect from the trailers is there and little else. It's worse than Man of Steel. The plot reminds me of Amazing Spider-Man 2 in terms of shoehorned characters, overly-long and flashy fight scenes, and an attempt to rush a shared universe into existence.
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Grendels Dad posted:I'm pretty sure Bane bites it in B&R, and possibly some random goons. That might be on Robin though, he's a loose cannon! Nah, he just gets de-Venomed and turned back into a regular guy.
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Terrible Horse posted:Cap's first "mission" was disobeying orders and parachuting into enemy territory to rescue his buddies. He's always been a guy who does the right thing first, and a soldier second. In Avengers 1 there's a scene where they all squabble due to the scepter. Cap says to Stark "Big man in a suit of armor. Take that off, what are you?" Naturally, Stark replies with a quib and Cap's remark isn't dwelled upon in the scene at all, but I would like to think that Cap hit a nerve there. It's too close to what BvS apparently aims at, but I would like a Civil War where part of Stark's motivation is that he is massively insecure about his red sports car armor allowing him to compete with literal gods.
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Just saw Batman VS Superman. Batman wins via roll up after Doomsday distracts Superman. All that build up and we'll probably have to wait for the sequel for a clean win. loving bullshit. Somebody fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Mar 24, 2016 |
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Gorn Myson posted:Just saw Batman VS Superman. But how are the quips? Are they on point?
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Phylodox posted:But how are the quips? Are they on point?
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Phylodox posted:But how are the quips? Are they on point?
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Gorn Myson posted:They're okay, but you just kind of know that in a Marvel movie they would be more emotional and meaningful. Heh.
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Yoshifan823 posted:I had an argument with a friend about Age of Ultron where I argued that Marvel's problem was not that they cut up Joss Whedon's script so much, but that Joss Whedon wrote a loving 3 1/2 hour movie and Marvel said "yeah go ahead and film that" instead of "gently caress you Joss, go make a movie that won't be cut to shreds". He was totally fine with the idea of a 3 1/2 hour Age of Ultron, which is right above a 3 1/2 hours of a blank screen in terms of "things I want to watch". I thought this was normal for scripts to be really long and then cut later on? We just never hear about it.
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In actual Marvel news rumours are starting to gain traction that Elizabeth Debicki is playing Death in Guardians 2 and that Mads is playing Eternity in Doctor Strange. We might meet both of them in the post-credits of Civil War greeting a recently "killed" Cap. I'm not sure how much of that is speculation taken from the Debicki rumour. PriorMarcus fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Mar 23, 2016 |
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PriorMarcus posted:In actual Marvel news rumours are starting to gain traction that Elizabeth Debicki is playing Death in Guardians 2. Awesome casting.
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PriorMarcus posted:In actual Marvel news rumours are starting to gain traction that Elizabeth Debicki is playing Death in Guardians 2 and that Mads is playing Eternity in Doctor Strange. Marvel is going full on Kirby/Lee/Ditko crazy with the cosmic movies. It is going to glorious. gently caress I want giant purple galactus and full on Celestials.
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Mr Hootington posted:Marvel is going full on Kirby/Lee/Ditko crazy with the cosmic movies. It is going to glorious. gently caress I want giant purple galactus and full on Celestials. Can't use Galactus unless Fox dumps the Fantastic Four rights (which could probably happen, honestly, but they're pretty stubborn). Maybe we'll get a thing like with Spider-Man, who knows.
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PriorMarcus posted:In actual Marvel news rumours are starting to gain traction that Elizabeth Debicki is playing Death in Guardians 2 and that Mads is playing Eternity in Doctor Strange. So Dr. Strange's main villain will be a basically immortal sorcerer? Last I heard Mads was lined up as the main villain according to one of the producers.
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GonSmithe posted:Can't use Galactus unless Fox dumps the Fantastic Four rights (which could probably happen, honestly, but they're pretty stubborn). They can use Galen of Taa.
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Kurzon posted:Just saw Batman v Superman. It's about as dumb a movie as I expected it to be. Everything story element you came to expect from the trailers is there and little else. It's worse than Man of Steel. The plot reminds me of Amazing Spider-Man 2 in terms of shoehorned characters, overly-long and flashy fight scenes, and an attempt to rush a shared universe into existence. But is it Amazing Spiderman mixed with Phantom Menace?
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GonSmithe posted:Can't use Galactus unless Fox dumps the Fantastic Four rights (which could probably happen, honestly, but they're pretty stubborn). Yeah the Galactus thing always makes me sad. I'm holding hope that Fox jettisons the FF property. There is still hope for a full blown Celestial and not just a vague story and silhouette.
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The big joke for Marvel properties is that each movie is just a 2 hour long trailer for the next film, but that actually seems to be the case with Batman vs Superman. Our worst fears realized.
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Harlock posted:The big joke for Marvel properties is that each movie is just a 2 hour long trailer for the next film, but that actually seems to be the case with Batman vs Superman. Our worst fears realized. The Marvel movies right now are one big story. Everything is tied together.
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EPIC 36 HOUR MARATHON!! QUIPS! EDGE OF YOUR SEAT THRILLS!
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counterfeitsaint posted:Since we're talking about the Avengers, I've been wanting to ask this. As someone who just watches the movies and doesn't read comics, shouldn't Stark and Rogers should be on the opposite sides in Civil War? The libertarian industrialist Tony "You want my property well you can't have it" Stark is all pro government regulation while the ultimate orders following soldier is heavily in favor of unchecked vigilantism? I know they tried to set up some of that in Winter Soldier with SHIELD, but it still really feels off to me. This is something I mentioned a few times, too, which could have maybe made MCU Civil War a different sort of thing from comics CW. Cap being on the pro-gov't side after the events of AoU, but also from a position of sort of 'ignorance', in a way. He thinks the government is good and can be trusted again because in Winter Soldier/AoU they 'got rid' of Hydra. The big war's won and this is him able to be a peacetime soldier, running the Avengers Reserves, training up the people that will follow him, focusing on defense, etc. Iron Man continuing to be what Wanda sort of established in AoU: He's so set on fixing problems on his own in his own way. Also, the idea of Stark revisting his IM1 self in a way could be interesting. He's become the 'terrorist', but still working on building his armor with scraps in a cave somewhere. But something like that feels like it would almost have to be the plot of IM4 or an Avengers film. I have sort of been thinking Ultron was maybe done too soon in the MCU films as an event. I keep thinking that they needed one more Avengers film in there. Something like Avengers / ______ / AoU / Infinity War 1&2 to esclatate the stakes and do some more universe/team building. I don't really know what could have been a good main baddie to put in there, though.
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I said come in! posted:The Marvel movies right now are one big story. Everything is tied together. You know, this is something that makes me wonder if this alone is a reason the need for 'origin' films are slightly diminished. The franchise of films is so on-going and long-running, without an end, audiences I think sort of are maybe more willing to accept that since all these characters exist in the same universe, so long as you accept and know how a few of them have their origins, you can just jump into new characters stepping into roles without needing that explanation of their first day on hero duty/spending an hour before they get their powers/etc..
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I'm actually excited to see BvS to see if it's as bad as the early reviews are making out. Because holy poo poo that sounds awful.
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:I'm actually excited to see BvS to see if it's as bad as the early reviews are making out. What were your impressions of Man of Steel?
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The worst thing a movie can do is not be bad, because that's kind of fun. It's to be boring. That is unforgivable.
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gregday posted:The worst thing a movie can do is not be bad, because that's kind of fun. It's to be boring. That is unforgivable. This is my standpoint.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:The answer is Kang. Fox has his rights, sadly. 
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Codependent Poster posted:Fox has his rights, sadly. For what, FF?
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:For what, FF? Yeah. Kang is with the FF rights for some reason. Maybe because he's possibly Nathaniel Richards.
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Luminous Obscurity posted:I honestly have no idea how to even begin processing that. I would love to know what corner of Joss Whedon's psyche this movie is supposed to be representing.
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Codependent Poster posted:Yeah. Kang is with the FF rights for some reason. Maybe because he's possibly Nathaniel Richards. Or Immortus or whatever.
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I wouldn't mind Avengers so much if they weren't sanatizing stuff too much to the point where American military incursions ammount to just some property damage. Civil War seems to be going the same way, but who knows. Honest Thief fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Mar 23, 2016 |
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