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lick it or ticket
Apr 12, 2013

When you want to laugh cry as hard as you can, when you want to cry laugh all you can. When you see rain, just think of it as the world laughing with you, and laugh until you can't anymore.
Didn't someone a page ago say they wanted dual wielding SMGs?

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Afraid of Audio
Oct 12, 2012

by exmarx
http://www.overkillsoftware.com/games/hardcorehenry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmsokTX1BP4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6Xuk_cieHQ

Laputanmachine
Oct 31, 2010

by Smythe

Overkill posted:

Changed how Swan song works when getting tazed, now the effect of swan song will still be active while getting tazed

RIP

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Zigmidge posted:

Vox's DLC effort post seems really out of date in terms of what's in the GOTY or not. What would you guys recommend I pick up that isn't included in the current GOTY version?

It's still accurate- the GOTY doesn't include subsequent DLC.

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost
Another free DLC set thanks Over$hill

But seriously did you watch the trailer for this. I never watched the webisodes but I thought it was pretty good. Too bad the heist(s?) don't come out for another week.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
OK, so:
  • New heister, 2 new masks
  • Melee ballistic knife weapon, no word on its function
  • Dual SMGs, 2 mods
  • Maniac perk deck, which somehow defends your team by dealing continuous damage (fire builds ahoy)
  • 2 heists coming in a week
  • A rather disturbing and borderline misogynistic trailer

And they patched all the bugs I sent them!

Lookin good! Time to see how angry facepunch is!

Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Mar 24, 2016

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
So I guess Maniac's Dual SMGs is what Fugitive will get in the skill tree rebirth. I wonder if other weapons will get Akimbo too now that they're expanding the list.

And now with Maniac we now have four team buffing decks after the perk deck rework. With Hysteria being granted to the whole group we get more damage resistance the more we keep clicking cops. Never stop killing.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

It's about loving time we got another Elephant heist!

Opposing Farce
Apr 1, 2010

Ever since our drop-off service, I never read a book.
There's always something else around, plus I owe the library nineteen bucks.

WeeabooJudas posted:

Didn't someone a page ago say they wanted dual wielding SMGs?

i wish they would just go ahead and make akimbo broncos already so that i don't have to be vaguely disappointed when they add a really cool akimbo weapon like smgs

Tempest_56
Mar 14, 2009

I am eagerly awaiting to find out if I can have Akimbo Micro Uzis. Because one doesn't fire nearly fast enough.

LuciferMorningstar
Aug 12, 2012

VIDEO GAME MODIFICATION IS TOTALLY THE SAME THING AS A FEMALE'S BODY AND CLONING SAID MODIFICATION IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS RAPE, GUYS!!!!!!!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :negative:

clockworkjoe
May 31, 2000

Rolled a 1 on the random encounter table, didn't you?
Seems like Maniac converts damage into an ablative layer of temporary health - it goes away when you don't attack. Interesting idea but there's no way enemies on DW can't outDPS you if you take on too many at once.

BTW, I've been playing random DW games for the last week and several times I've jumped in Forest runs and the host inevitably picks the helicopter escape. Inevitably we wipe out on the escape because its out in then open and there are 100 cops camping it. Helicopter escape has to be the biggest preplanning trap in Payday 2. Boat is so much safer.

Iamgoofball
Jul 1, 2015

Discendo Vox posted:

Lookin good! Time to see how angry facepunch is!

Someone posted the images of Jimmy and his mask in game an hour before the trailer dropped and everyone said it was fake because of how the hair looked.

Good poo poo.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
Looks like Jimmy may be a bodyjumper akin to Shiga's Demon, except he absorbs the proclivities of whomever he's in.

spit on my clit
Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747
Yes...YES...YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

AHAHAHA THIS IS EVERYTHING I'VE WANTED, IT'S loving PAYDAY, FELLAS!

Plan Z
May 6, 2012

game keeps freezing on me after the update

Legit Businessman
Sep 2, 2007


Gunspergs:

What sort of weird pump-action famas looking motherfucker shotgun is dallas using in the hardcore harry trailer?

widespread
Aug 5, 2013

I believe I am now no longer in the presence of nice people.


Drewjitsu posted:

Gunspergs:

What sort of weird pump-action famas looking motherfucker shotgun is dallas using in the hardcore harry trailer?

I'm guessing either the DP12 or the Neostead 2000.

Fellis
Feb 14, 2012

Kid, don't threaten me. There are worse things than death, and uh, I can do all of them.

Drewjitsu posted:

Gunspergs:

What sort of weird pump-action famas looking motherfucker shotgun is dallas using in the hardcore harry trailer?

Without looking, gonna guess NS2000

Hobold
Jan 10, 2012


I love my Cutlass
I love big stompy mechs
I love my HOTAS
I love to salvage wrecks
I love Star Citizen, and all it's craziness
GOONDEYADA, GOONDEYADA, GOONDEYADA
College Slice
loving Ace. Sharlto Copely doing the voice for the new guy. So much loving win right there.

Plan Z
May 6, 2012

Drewjitsu posted:

Gunspergs:

What sort of weird pump-action famas looking motherfucker shotgun is dallas using in the hardcore harry trailer?

Looks like a Mossberg 500/590 bullpup with its own special tweaks.



The guy in the hotel is also using a non-modded 590 so maybe that's the map pack weapon?

Plan Z fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Mar 24, 2016

Legit Businessman
Sep 2, 2007


widespread posted:

I'm guessing either the DP12 or the Neostead 2000.

Fellis posted:

Without looking, gonna guess NS2000

Sadly it is neither of those.

Here's an image of it from the trailer:


E;eb Plaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan Z! :argh:

widespread
Aug 5, 2013

I believe I am now no longer in the presence of nice people.


Drewjitsu posted:

Sadly it is neither of those.

Here's an image of it from the trailer:


Oh. It really is the Mossberg 500/590 bullpup isn't it.

Bummer.

Plan Z
May 6, 2012

Okay, so apparently the patch doesn't like the weapons customizer mod in case anyone else is running it.

edit: also updated the "what's new" section of the OP.

Plan Z fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Mar 24, 2016

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
:siren:ALL MODS ARE LIKELY TO NOT WORK WITH THE NEW UPDATE. TURN THEM OFF AND PLAY VANILLA UNTIL THEY GIVE AN UPDATE. ESPECIALLY CERTAIN HUDS THAT LIKELY HAVE NO WAY TO DEAL WITH HYSTERIA.:siren::whining hoxhud:

EDIT: Except Goonmod, that seems the most stable of them all.

Crabtree fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Mar 24, 2016

clockworkjoe
May 31, 2000

Rolled a 1 on the random encounter table, didn't you?
copy from reddit:

quote:

Excitement: 40% of damage you deal is converted into Hysteria Stacks, upto 240 every 4 seconds. Max amount of stacks is 600.

Hysteria Stacks You gain 1 damage absorption for every 30 stacks of Hysteria. Hysteria Stacks decays 60% + 80 every 8 seconds.

Outburst Members of your crew also gains the effect of your Hysteria Stacks Hysteria Stacks from multiple crew members do not stack and only stacks that gives the highest damage absorption will have an effect

Fervor Change the decay of your Hysteria Stacks to 60% + 40 every 8 seconds

Recklessness Change the damage absorption of your Hysteria Stacks on you and your crew to 1 damage absorption for every 25 stacks of Hysteria

Insanity Damage absorption from Hysteria Stacks on you is increased by 50%

Even maxed out, Maniac does not give that much protection to the crew. It adds a slight buffer, but it won't save you from a black dozer. I wonder if it breaks like armor or if carryover damage just applies directly to you - i.e. if I get hit from 1 attack for 100 damage and I can absorb 20 points of it with Hysteria, will the last 80 points carry over or will it be dropped? I assume snipers still go through that, but what about normal attacks?

isndl
May 2, 2012
I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE

clockworkjoe posted:

copy from reddit:


Even maxed out, Maniac does not give that much protection to the crew. It adds a slight buffer, but it won't save you from a black dozer. I wonder if it breaks like armor or if carryover damage just applies directly to you - i.e. if I get hit from 1 attack for 100 damage and I can absorb 20 points of it with Hysteria, will the last 80 points carry over or will it be dropped? I assume snipers still go through that, but what about normal attacks?

Without trying it out at all, I'm guessing it's a persistent flat damage reduction. Fully maxed it should be reducing damage by 36, which might let you shrug off some SMG fire but isn't going to do much against a shotgun Green or black 'dozer. The decay feels high, probably to compensate.

The trailer does show that Overkill is ready to dive into the paranormal though, which they hinted at during the Diamond trailer.. Where's my Wizardry Pack, Almir?

Fellis
Feb 14, 2012

Kid, don't threaten me. There are worse things than death, and uh, I can do all of them.

isndl posted:

The trailer does show that Overkill is ready to dive into the paranormal though, which they hinted at during the Diamond trailer.. Where's my Wizardry Pack, Almir?

Introducing new enemy Max Folder, the captain winters of stealth, who uses his alien artifacts to negate ECM usage until you find the info on Folder's sister hidden on the map, and cause him to leave after Bain calls him

Dr Cheeto
Mar 2, 2013
Wretched Harp
In case you hadn't realized, we got a SMG as well as an akimbo today. A single Heather is good, but it is not the best in its class. It resides in the same 40-44 damage bracket that the SpecOps and Jacket's Piece call home. Dual SMGs are a joy but I actually had to NOT ace SMG specialist as an effective 1800 RoF was a little much for me.

Kikas
Oct 30, 2012

Dr Cheeto posted:

In case you hadn't realized, we got a SMG as well as an akimbo today. A single Heather is good, but it is not the best in its class. It resides in the same 40-44 damage bracket that the SpecOps and Jacket's Piece call home. Dual SMGs are a joy but I actually had to NOT ace SMG specialist as an effective 1800 RoF was a little much for me.

quote:

effective 1800 RoF

:wtc:

LuciferMorningstar
Aug 12, 2012

VIDEO GAME MODIFICATION IS TOTALLY THE SAME THING AS A FEMALE'S BODY AND CLONING SAID MODIFICATION IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS RAPE, GUYS!!!!!!!

isndl posted:

Without trying it out at all, I'm guessing it's a persistent flat damage reduction. Fully maxed it should be reducing damage by 36, which might let you shrug off some SMG fire but isn't going to do much against a shotgun Green or black 'dozer. The decay feels high, probably to compensate.

My intuition, without trying it at all yet, is that it will be okay, but pale in comparison to anything with health regen. We'll see. I'm hoping I'm wrong.

E: On second thought, you might have some success with a 2-man gimmick involving the new deck, Gambler, Bullseye, and heavy armor.

LuciferMorningstar fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Mar 24, 2016

Skunkrocker
Jan 14, 2012

Your favorite furry wrestler.
It might be one of those things that really ramps and stacks up like old Grinder. I haven't seen the deck yet, since the website doesn't load properly on my phone and I'm at work, but if it does do that you're looking at basically "if you click enough cops you can straight up ignore damage" and that might be interesting. But I'm sure judging by the posts here it's written out so that there is a hard cap on how much damage you can ignore.

That said, if it's prioritizing damage dealt vs damage received as I have described, it still has major downfalls that would balance out. Since it's not regenerating health you're reliant on doctor bags, FAKs, Gambler, and pure skill to not go down.

LuciferMorningstar
Aug 12, 2012

VIDEO GAME MODIFICATION IS TOTALLY THE SAME THING AS A FEMALE'S BODY AND CLONING SAID MODIFICATION IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS RAPE, GUYS!!!!!!!

Skunkrocker posted:

It might be one of those things that really ramps and stacks up like old Grinder. I haven't seen the deck yet, since the website doesn't load properly on my phone and I'm at work, but if it does do that you're looking at basically "if you click enough cops you can straight up ignore damage" and that might be interesting. But I'm sure judging by the posts here it's written out so that there is a hard cap on how much damage you can ignore.

That said, if it's prioritizing damage dealt vs damage received as I have described, it still has major downfalls that would balance out. Since it's not regenerating health you're reliant on doctor bags, FAKs, Gambler, and pure skill to not go down.

Damage reduction caps at 48 for the deck user, once everything is maxed out. Assuming I didn't gently caress up my math.

Sykic
Feb 9, 2004

Resist! Humanity demands it! Resist!
Pretty sure Copley was actually on coke while recording.

Afraid of Audio
Oct 12, 2012

by exmarx

Sykic posted:

Pretty sure Copley was actually on coke while recording.

i love the coke stains on the suit jacket

isndl
May 2, 2012
I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE

LuciferMorningstar posted:

Damage reduction caps at 48 for the deck user, once everything is maxed out. Assuming I didn't gently caress up my math.

Doesn't look right to me, 600 / 25 * 1.5 = 36. Don't know if that's a 'real' 36 or if it suffers from the same weirdness other skills with numbers have because cop numbers are doubled or something - might need the Long Guide to be sure.

Mendrian
Jan 6, 2013

So having run around with it a bit today, first thoughts on Maniac:

It's got an arcane UI. I think the blue bar is damage reduction and the white inner circle is supposed to be Hysteria but since they have a direct correlation I don't really understand why they made two bars for them.

It isn't terribly noticeable and I was only testing on Very Hard; I can only imagine how little effect it will have when enemies are doing more damage. It might make a huge difference on paper but it just doesn't feel impactful.

Keeping up stacks is a real chore, even with things like the flamethrower, malatovs and high RoF weapons to compensate. You've got no innate health regen, so you're going to be taking cover to regenerate your armor, which means your stacks are going to decay. It plays a lot like reverse grinder, to its detriment; Grinder gets better the more reckless you are, since you need to keep hitting and keep getting regen if you want to survive. By contrast the EHP that Maniac offers is too low to support reckless play so you have to play conservatively. But the only way to benefit from it is to be constantly shooting.

Overall, not great. I want to try it as part of a support-team some time though, with Maniac, Gambler, Armorer, and Crew Chief.

LuciferMorningstar
Aug 12, 2012

VIDEO GAME MODIFICATION IS TOTALLY THE SAME THING AS A FEMALE'S BODY AND CLONING SAID MODIFICATION IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS RAPE, GUYS!!!!!!!

isndl posted:

Doesn't look right to me, 600 / 25 * 1.5 = 36. Don't know if that's a 'real' 36 or if it suffers from the same weirdness other skills with numbers have because cop numbers are doubled or something - might need the Long Guide to be sure.

No, you're right. I'm wrong. 50% is not the same as 100%.

Dr Cheeto
Mar 2, 2013
Wretched Harp

With SMG specialist ace, the Heather has 900 RoF. Two of them fire at 900 RoF each for effectively 1800 RoF.

The Heather has 750 RoF base so effectively akimbo has 1500 RoF without SMG specialist ace.

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Basticle
Sep 12, 2011


So I didnt recognize generic american heister that says "shut up hoxton" and drives the van later but apparently hes wearing Wolf's mask :wtc:

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