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multijoe posted:It does mean WB is more likely to let Snyder keep doing his thing and less tempted to pull a 180 on the franchise and break out the quip book and low consequences 'fun'. In that sense, I am glad the film is selling well Man. People going out of their way to defend this movie sure do bring up comparisons to Marvel more than actual Marvel fans. Seems kind of insecure. Why do you think the alternative is Marvel? I mean, Fox makes movies in a certain style too. Some of them have even been movies people like.
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Because a large proportion of critics flat out said "this isn't Marvel (and I don't like it)".
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TFRazorsaw posted:Man. Nearly every negative fan review I have seen of the film has some comparison to the MCU and usually holds those films up as "done right."
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Mar 27, 2016 18:37
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So, no, no  ing here.
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TFRazorsaw posted:Man. Because that's the most commonly presented alternative and what alot of blogs and fanboy commenters have been calling for, and as I like Snyder's take on the genre I'd rather not see that happen. Why is that such a controversial opinion?
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BvS was great and I am happy to see more sequels in the same good style.
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multijoe posted:Because that's the most commonly presented alternative and what alot of blogs and fanboy commenters have been calling for, and as I like Snyder's take on the genre I'd rather not see that happen. Why is that such a controversial opinion? I've seen it primarily from professional critics and BvS's own defenders than actual Marvel fans, but that's my own experience.
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TFRazorsaw posted:I've seen it primarily from professional critics and BvS's own defenders than actual Marvel fans, but that's my own experience. So, anecdotal you say?
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Mar 27, 2016 18:43
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TFRazorsaw posted:I've seen it primarily from professional critics and BvS's own defenders than actual Marvel fans, but that's my own experience. Why can't professional critics be Marvel fans?
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Mar 27, 2016 18:43
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Now that the console wars are over DC vs Marvel is back in a big way.
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Rhyno posted:So, anecdotal you say? Both multijoe and I are going off of anecdotes, yes.
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TFRazorsaw posted:Both multijoe and I are going off of anecdotes, yes. As am I. But you present it as if it was the norm when my experience says the opposite.
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TFRazorsaw posted:I've seen it primarily from professional critics and BvS's own defenders than actual Marvel fans, but that's my own experience. What frickin fb memes are you seeing dude? Because they are NOT the Facebook memes im seeing.
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Mar 27, 2016 19:10
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The only thing I wish this movie cribbed from Marvel was Marvel's patience. And less threatening to flame thrower people.
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Mar 27, 2016 19:15
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TFRazorsaw posted:I look forward to people saying that this means the movie is actually good, while continuing to decry other similarly bloated, brainless affairs as terrible despite making similar amounts of money. I mean, prior to the box office numbers, people were doing little victory dances declaring this movie definitively bad because of a low RT score, despite RT similarly being a terrible metric for determining the value of a movie. Not saying that box office is by any means, and while I liked it I am not going to defend it as great cinema or whatever. But there are a ton of people who seem very emotionally tied to their opinion of the movie being canonically "right", instead of just letting people judge the movie themselves.
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Guy A. Person posted:I mean, prior to the box office numbers, people were doing little victory dances declaring this movie definitively bad because of a low RT score, despite RT similarly being a terrible metric for determining the value of a movie. There's a very vocal, very large Marvel vs DC bias that is drowning out people who just want to genuinely enjoy the film.
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Rhyno posted:There's a very vocal, very large Marvel vs DC bias that is drowning out people who just want to genuinely enjoy the film. The Marvel vs DC thing is just fuckin' tiring on both sides. It's even more pathetic than console fanboying because there's no actual investment there. Marvel doing well isn't going to kill DC films or vice-versa.
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net cafe scandal posted:So, no, no All ing will be ban on sight, correct.
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Same, as well, also. Me too net cafe scandal posted:Now that the console wars are over DC vs Marvel is back in a big way. Whence the civility of "The Distinguished Competition"? A more civilized argument, from a more civilized age. I remember when I gave a poo poo about comic book sales, it was embarrassing. Now we have been poisoned by MrBibs and people are praying The Avengers won't (or will) be proved better than Batman v Superman in the court of money
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ImpAtom posted:The Marvel vs DC thing is just fuckin' tiring on both sides. It's even more pathetic than console fanboying because there's no actual investment there. Marvel doing well isn't going to kill DC films or vice-versa. Just generally 
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Phylodox posted:Just generally Except Avengers movies.
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Mr Hootington posted:Except Avengers movies. 
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CelticPredator posted:The only thing I wish this movie cribbed from Marvel was Marvel's patience. Iron Man flamethrowers people flat out in his first outing. But I guess it's fine because Marvel "did it right".
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Marvel is good at having endless horde type enemies. Iron Man 1's bad guys for most of the movie are stupidly generic evil terrorists so it's okay for them to die horribly since Iron Man is funny and his suit is cool. I don't think anyone even really has a problem with Batman or Superman killing people, but rather a problem with how it''s delivered. Like if Superman punched Zod so hard Zod died at the same moment they show the rest of the Kryptonians/engine stuff getting sucked into the phantom zone and then Superman cracked a one liner no one would have batted an eye about it and people would think it was the best superhero movie ever made except for Pa Kent advocating child murder.* That there was any consequence or actual game changing to how Superman feels or how the world is in the movie was too much for people. There's nothing wrong with not wanting dramatic weight attached to superhero antics, but people want to have their cake and eat it too and act like mainstream superheros are high art creations worthy of intense evaluation and respect while at the same time completely dismissing and hating anything that isn't within their super narrow vision of what the "right" way to make a movie about them is. *More than Superman's snap decision with Zod that was so overblown to me. By the time I got around to actually seeing Man of Steel from what I heard from my friends/etc. I was expecting to see Kevin Costner show up during the bus scene and push that last kid's head back under water or something. A hilarious misread of Costner's entire character people already had in their heads just based on that one line without any context in the trailer. Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Mar 27, 2016 |
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Weird that the sonic the hedgehog av haver possesses transparently autistic opinions on which gigantic corporation produces the best strong fight man punch movies.
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Jason Momoa is so pumped on Instagram for the DC stuff that's in store. His excitement is nice in all this shitstorm.
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I really really hope Aquaman turns out good, and not even mainly for myself, Mamoa deserves a good movie, he really does.
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I actually am autistic, you know. Not that this justifies your transparent ableism. Of course, now that I've said "ableism" I await the inevitable cries to go back to Tumblr or wherever you think I belong or whatever else you choose to say. I'm hoping I can get bingo, I'll get a free ice cream.
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Everyone should subscribe to him - he's one of the realest celebrities out there.  He had a cool Hawaiian vacation this summer and was posting tons of pics of catching fish and partying with his local friends. He's so chill and cool. https://www.instagram.com/prideofgypsies/?hl=en
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Vintersorg posted:Everyone should subscribe to him - he's one of the realest celebrities out there. I like celebrities that have dorky pretentious screen names like the rest of us as opposed to boring first name last name ones
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Just got back from it. Fun movie, but not a very good one and I kept annoying my sister by giggling at moments that were clearly supposed to be tense and dramatic. Batman, Wonder Woman, and Lex were all great, Superman was boring and Lois was a shallow damsel in distress. Also tries way too hard to set up a big epic DC universe with Darkseid as the big bad. Not that I think there's a lot that can be done with Doomsday, but he's just a CGI monster. Bit of a waste.
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broken clock opsec posted:Iron Man flamethrowers people flat out in his first outing. But I guess it's fine because Marvel "did it right". Iron Man murdered terrorists who were keeping him hostage to make weapons to kill more people. Probably would've chopped his head off too. I'm very okay with self defense movie murder. Not okay with flaming throwing people's moms
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CelticPredator posted:Iron Man murdered terrorists who were keeping him hostage to make weapons to kill more people. Probably would've chopped his head off too. I mean no one's supposed to be okay with someone trying to flamethrower Clark's mom? That's what it's bad? And that's why that guy was a bad person, because he wanted to flamethrower Martha? People seem really shocked that DC comic book movies have bad people doing bad things, and that heroes get really pissed at bad things happening. "The power of love" is Jesus' super power, not Superman's.
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quote:"The power of love" is Jesus' super power, not Superman's. considering the movie spends a lot of time in effort to equate Superman with Jesus...
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TFRazorsaw posted:considering the movie spends a lot of time in effort to equate Superman with Jesus... So? Superman has solved problems by punching them since his inception. I mean if we want to go full Captain Planet and have his power be The Power of Heart than that's cool, but that isn't what Supes has been about in the past. He's been about personal sacrifice for the greater good of mankind for a while now but that doesn't mean that comic book fans wouldn't get enraged at Supes trying to hug it out with people.
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It's just so loving harsh though. Like I know there are dark batman and superman comics, so maybe I'm in the minority but I just like a nice catch all. Little bit of darkness, a little bit of fun. That element is just horrific and brutal in very off putting way. Like, "oh no there's a bomb in the room" is different because it's quick, and impersonal. What's in the movie just doesn't sit right with me at all in a movie with Superman in it.
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CelticPredator posted:Iron Man murdered terrorists who were keeping him hostage to make weapons to kill more people. Probably would've chopped his head off too. By the time he was fully armored none of those dicks could do poo poo to him but he still set everything on fire including people instead of just turning a cheek and activating the jetpack. That's not "self defense".
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HIJK posted:He's been about personal sacrifice for the greater good of mankind for a while now but that doesn't mean that comic book fans wouldn't get enraged at Supes trying to hug it out with people. I actually want that, though? I mean, that'd be pretty great. From Batman too. More stuff like that moment in BTAS where he gets Harley some gifts and less of him being Dick Cheney in a flying mouse costume.
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broken clock opsec posted:By the time he was fully armored none of those dicks could do poo poo to him but he still set everything on fire including people instead of just turning a cheek and activating the jetpack. That's not "self defense".
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Wait, someone flamethrowers Ma Kent?!? What the ever loving hell?!? I'm starting to feel like I should see this movie just to witness firsthand how insane it is. Like...is this Zach Snyder's complete emotional breakdown in film form or something?
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