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waitwhatno posted:Is there too much lead in the Berlin tap water of something? Can someone with legal knowledge explain how Beleidigung could ever be considered straflindernd? Is Heiko Maas a douchebro who never grew up?
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blowfish posted:"Schwere Beleidigung" shouldn't be a reason. It's basically Eherenmord (but totally not for religious/cultural reasons). We are a civilised society and people shouldn't get allowances for being unable to check their temper. I totally agree. If you kill a person who insulted you deeply just now, we already have that law: Wikipedia on Totschlag posted:In § 213 StGB ist der minder schwere Fall des Totschlags geregelt. Er ermöglicht eine mildere Bestrafung desjenigen, der ohne eigene Schuld durch eine ihm oder einem Angehörigen gegenüber begangene Misshandlung oder schwere Beleidigung zum Zorn gereizt und auf der Stelle zur Tat hingerissen wurde. [...] § 213 StGB stellt keinen eigenen Tatbestand, sondern ebenfalls eine Strafzumessungsregel dar, die den Regelstrafrahmen des Totschlages auf ein Jahr bis zu zehn Jahre absenkt. If, on the other hand, you get insulted, go home, mull the thing over, and then go back and murder the guy, you absolutely should get the normal punishment for murder.
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pidan posted:I totally agree. If you kill a person who insulted you deeply just now, we already have that law: The whole point of the reform seems to be to extend the period in which murdering someone is more acceptable, because people feel like the current law unfairly discriminates against the physically weaker, who are not able to kill someone in affect, but need to use some kind of malice, e.g. poison someone in his sleep, to achieve the same result.
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[quote="Strafgesetzbuch (StGB) § 34 Rechtfertigender Notstand"] Wer in einer gegenwärtigen, nicht anders abwendbaren Gefahr für Leben, Leib, Freiheit, Ehre, Eigentum oder ein anderes Rechtsgut eine Tat begeht, um die Gefahr von sich oder einem anderen abzuwenden, handelt nicht rechtswidrig, wenn bei Abwägung der widerstreitenden Interessen, namentlich der betroffenen Rechtsgüter und des Grades der ihnen drohenden Gefahren, das geschützte Interesse das beeinträchtigte wesentlich überwiegt. Dies gilt jedoch nur, soweit die Tat ein angemessenes Mittel ist, die Gefahr abzuwenden.[/quote]
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blowfish posted:Is Heiko Maas a douchebro who never grew up? Maas is an Antifa-Activist in a tailor-made suit.
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waitwhatno posted:http://www.sueddeutsche.de/panorama/wien-blick-aufs-handy-des-sitznachbarn-fuehrt-zu-flugzeugraeumung-1.2923757 I wonder what would happen if someone browses something awful in an airport and the screen is filled by the Al-Aqsa brigades avatar of some leftover LF goon
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My Lovely Horse posted:Nevermind that, remember the logo. Reminds me of the time some guy got arrested at the airport for having "atom bomb" tattooed on his hand
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blowfish posted:I wonder what would happen if someone browses something awful in an airport and the screen is filled by the Al-Aqsa brigades avatar of some leftover LF goon I can tell you from experience that some people aren't down with al aqsa irl.
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blowfish posted:I wonder what would happen if someone browses something awful in an airport and the screen is filled by the Al-Aqsa brigades avatar of some leftover LF goon az posted:I can tell you from experience that some people aren't down with al aqsa irl.
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Omi-Polari posted:I'm shocked, shocked that rockin' a gang tang for a proscribed terrorist organization in the U.S. and E.U. attracts attention from security services. Heh, they don't give a gently caress, or at least they didn't use to when I was part of the apparatus. 90% of offense comes from students that walk around with "how dare you" imprinted on their faces as part of their normal modop.
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Omi-Polari posted:I'm shocked, shocked that rockin' a gang tang for a proscribed terrorist organization in the U.S. and E.U. attracts attention from security services. Goons only destroy their own lives, not the lives of others. Except for the occasional Assad/Putin mercenary, some murderers here and there, some pedophiles and a couple of large scale drug manufacturers, goons are pretty harmless people and police has no business stalking them on this forum.
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Turkey's president Erdogan is trying to get extra3's song about him off the air. Ordered the german ambassador to the turkish foreign ministry and all. What kind of poo poo-tier dicta- autocrat is so insecure that a bad karaoke cover of a Nena song punctures his ego? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2e2yHjc_mc
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Lunar Suite posted:What kind of poo poo-tier dicta- autocrat is so insecure that a bad karaoke cover of a Nena song punctures his ego? Erdogan.
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Lunar Suite posted:Turkey's president Erdogan is trying to get extra3's song about him off the air. Ordered the german ambassador to the turkish foreign ministry and all. The funny part is that the song got ~2.65 million views since Erdogan complaint vs ~60k before that and that's not even including the version with Turkish subtitles, which was only created because of the complaint and got >127k views in less than a day. But Jan Fleischhauer has the best assessment of the true damage Erdogan caused https://twitter.com/janfleischhauer/status/715061707958300672
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Jan Fleischhauer has the best nothing of gently caress-all, he's an ugly wart on the face of journalism.
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Lunar Suite posted:Turkey's president Erdogan is trying to get extra3's song about him off the air. Ordered the german ambassador to the turkish foreign ministry and all. It's an easy mistake to make. Erdogan wouldn't know anything public media that aren't completely state-controlled, so he probably thought the video was Merkel calling him an idiot in a roundabout way.
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Perestroika posted:It's an easy mistake to make. Erdogan wouldn't know anything public media that aren't completely state-controlled, so he probably thought the video was Merkel calling him an idiot in a roundabout way. Yeah, he's probably thinking "I'd never have my journalists say something like that about you!"
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pidan posted:Yeah, he's probably thinking "I'd never have my journalists say something like that about you!" But he's definitely petty enough that it might happen now. I would not at all be surprised -- in fact I kinda expect it.
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botany posted:Jan Fleischhauer has the best nothing of gently caress-all, he's an ugly wart on the face of journalism. Please show us on this doll where the bad man touched you Drone posted:But he's definitely petty enough that it might happen now. I would not at all be surprised -- in fact I kinda expect it. Nah, he needs Merkel more than Merkel needs him, even though you wouldn't get that impression at first.
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GaussianCopula posted:Please show us on this doll where the bad man touched you sure http://www.spiegel.de/thema/spon_fleischhauer/
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Böhmermann is at it again, and has decided to explain to us what it means to be DEUTSCH: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMQkV5cTuoY I kind of like it, but it's no Polizistensohn.
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pidan posted:Böhmermann is at it again, and has decided to explain to us what it means to be DEUTSCH: Lmao those comments, nationalist dorks are really quick when salty.
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az posted:Lmao those comments, nationalist dorks are really quick when salty. quote:The Golden One1 hour ago (edited) 489 likes Okay then.
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pidan posted:Böhmermann is at it again, and has decided to explain to us what it means to be DEUTSCH: He overshoots his target when he propagates that the Burqa is part of German culture/Germany. I don't mind a modern Islam, but we don't need the Wahhabist variant here just because it irritates the idiots in the AfD. But I guess this follows a trend in the media, where you either are a supporter of the AfD or vote Greens, with nothing in between.
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GaussianCopula posted:He overshoots his target when he propagates that the Burqa is part of German culture/Germany. I don't mind a modern Islam, but we don't need the Wahhabist variant here just because it irritates the idiots in the AfD. But I guess this follows a trend in the media, where you either are a supporter of the AfD or vote Greens, with nothing in between. That's not a Burqa, that's a Nikab.
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GaussianCopula posted:He overshoots his target when he propagates that the Burqa is part of German culture/Germany. I don't mind a modern Islam, but we don't need the Wahhabist variant here just because it irritates the idiots in the AfD. But I guess this follows a trend in the media, where you either are a supporter of the AfD or vote Greens, with nothing in between. Besides not having any idea what a Burqa is I love that the Greens are the extreme end of any spectrum in your world
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pidan posted:That's not a Burqa, that's a Nikab. You are right, but that makes my argument even stronger, because the Niqab and not Burqa is part of Wahhabist culture, while the Burqa is more a part of Afghani culture. az posted:Besides not having any idea what a Burqa is I love that the Greens are the extreme end of any spectrum in your world I'm not sure where you got the idea that the Greens are the extreme end of the spectrum (hint: neither is the AfD) they simply are one pole in the current (social) media discussion in Germany. GaussianCopula fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Mar 31, 2016 |
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GaussianCopula posted:He overshoots his target when he propagates that the Burqa is part of German culture/Germany. There's not even any need to interpret to understand that, the lyrics literally say exactly that.
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Mithaldu posted:He's not saying that they're part of german culture, but that the person in the picture wearing it is a legal german citizen. Well, given that the person in the video is first shown without a Niqab, she is probably an actress that doesn't wear the Niqab outside of this video anyway, but I'm not sure that's the message the song is supposed to convey.
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GaussianCopula posted:Well, given that the person in the video is first shown without a Niqab, she is probably an actress that doesn't wear the Niqab outside of this video anyway, but I'm not sure that's the message the song is supposed to convey. On the one hand you could wildly speculate and "read between the lines"; on the other hand you could read the subtitles which spell out the lyrics and believe they actually mean the words they say. Hmmm, tough.
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GaussianCopula posted:Well, given that the person in the video is first shown without a Niqab, she is probably an actress that doesn't wear the Niqab outside of this video anyway, but I'm not sure that's the message the song is supposed to convey. The video is full of contradictory images. I imagine Böhmermann doesn't actually advocate running AfD-voters' votes through the shredder. I imagine he's aware that Arab-identified muslims and orthodox Jews don't normally hug in the streets and that niqabi women don't hold hands with male strangers. Creating some level of cognitive dissonance is kind of Böhmermann's thing.
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GaussianCopula posted:I'm not sure where you got the idea that the Greens are the extreme end of the spectrum GaussianCopula posted:But I guess this follows a trend in the media, where you either are a supporter of the AfD or vote Greens, with nothing in between. This is what you believe, functionally your perception of reality, in your words. You literally created a spectrum. Spectra are ranges or sequences of things, such as colors, beliefs or whatever else you want to plot on them. I shouldn't have to explain this but you charted a spectrum from Afd to the Greens, fin. I'm not even talking about how ridiculous it is that you think the media is carrying the torch for a political party because that party does ...something? How you perceive any non acceptance of the Afd in the media as embracing the Green party of all things is really weird and speaks volumes about what you think about this entire subject and the poor Greens.
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az posted:This is what you believe, functionally your perception of reality, in your words. You literally created a spectrum. Spectra are ranges or sequences of things, such as colors, beliefs or whatever else you want to plot on them. I shouldn't have to explain this but you charted a spectrum from Afd to the Greens, fin. So if I said there are no colors in the spectrum of colors between blue and green (disregarding certain shades of blue and green) that would mean I denied the existence of all other colors?
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pidan posted:I imagine Böhmermann doesn't actually advocate running AfD-voters' votes through the shredder. Yeah, seriously, it should be the AfD voters who should be run through a shredder.
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