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asking in the good eve thread: when were command destroyers introduced? are they any good? is the ship jump thing being used as a legit tactic?
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vodkat posted:asking in the good eve thread: when were command destroyers introduced? are they any good? is the ship jump thing being used as a legit tactic? They are fun and usable in certain situations. Like booshing your fleet within range on long range enemy fleets, or loving with their logi to get them out of rep range. You can also boosh people off a station undock preventing a redock letting you and your buddies get a gank. As well as if the enemy dudes try to crash a gate you can prevent it if you're close enough. If you have multiple CDs, you can chain the MJD fields and launch people in quick succession which is also a pretty valid tactic people have used. Pubbie video example where they chained two CD MJD fields to get a megathron off an undock and gank it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjvovRwVDS8 They're not super expensive and are about as much as an interdictor and take similar skills except for MJD and potentially drone skills depending on the fit. Edit - Another vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-eaV4li3x8 Edit 2 - What I'm saying is, if you get a chance to fly them and learn how to use them well you'll have a blast. Even if it's just to go gank people in Lowsec or whatever. Mekchu fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Apr 6, 2016 |
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Apr 6, 2016 02:32
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not gonna lie the ceo update on tmc makes me want to play eve i know this is a bad idea
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Apr 6, 2016 03:36
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If more cool goons come back it could be a good time.
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Apr 6, 2016 03:41
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Foehammer007 posted:If more cool goons come back it could be a good time. not for you  
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Apr 6, 2016 03:44
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So unchill friend
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you've been owned this day 
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Apr 6, 2016 03:52
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Foehammer007 posted:If more cool goons come back it could be a good time. nah the problem is that i know eve just isnt the game for me - i love the high drama and the ruthlessness of the game, but the gameplay itself bores me to tears like watching my guns cycle for a few minutes as something dies does nothing for me 
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Magres posted:nah the problem is that i know eve just isnt the game for me - i love the high drama and the ruthlessness of the game, but the gameplay itself bores me to tears I think you kind of have to find your thing? I really was never that into fleet stuff (take fleetwarp and hit f1), but flying around in an interceptor and jumping people in lowsec was pretty killer
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Apr 6, 2016 04:00
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nah its that im mostly an action games kinda guy these days just like if a game generally has a time to kill above like 10 seconds against an afk opponent, it just doesnt stoke that dopamine loop in my brain fights can totally take longer than 10s to resolve (like I actually really enjoy guild wars 2 combat because there's a lot of ways to mitigate damage and dodge each other's poo poo and heal up over time) but if someone's just afk you can generally beat them to death in just a few seconds
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Apr 6, 2016 04:08
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Have you checked out EVE Valkyrie? I know it requires a VR headset and all but it's pretty sweet for an arena shooter game. Edit - I guess you could also wait until DUST comes to the PC finally but I don't even know if CCP have a plan beyond "let's port it" at the moment. Mekchu fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Apr 6, 2016 |
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Apr 6, 2016 04:10
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does DUST actually matter at all to EVE? it'd be neat if it did and i could, in some way, contribute to the subjugation of the unwashed pubbie masses after it gets ported
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Magres posted:does DUST actually matter at all to EVE? isnt dust shutting down edit oh pc, it's gonna be called something different 
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Sort of. On the PS3 the battles would help affect the capture rate for the Faction Warfare systems, which use a similar mechanic to the Aegis Sov system. If say the Amarr won a bunch of battles in a specific system in DUST it'd be like 10-15% quicker for the EVE pilots to take the system. There was a bit of a coordinated effort between EVE FW and DUST FW crews a while ago that was kind of neat. Other than that not really because CCP never got player trading etc. sorted and I think it was due to how the PS3 worked but maybe I'm wrong. They haven't said much about how the PC version will be different but I imagine they'll be able to at least do the FW thing and maybe tie it in to sov taking like battles over stations in DUST affecting capture process. At least, that's how I'd like for it to be to some degree because that would be cool. FruitNYogurtParfait posted:isnt dust shutting down CCP had Project Legion which was announced as the DUST PC port but let the trademark slide just before WoW announced the Legion expansion was announced. I think they'll stick with the DUST 514 name since its easier for them to just recycle the marketing material but who knows.
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Apr 6, 2016 06:04
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I added an EVE text channel to the Something Awful Discord for people to hang out and chat in too if you want. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3759565 if you need the server info.
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This discord thing confuses me. It looks like yet another integrated chat client? But I already have skype and jabber and trillian and icq and irc and yim and aim and steam and gchat and facebook and and 
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Nietzschean posted:This discord thing confuses me. It looks like yet another integrated chat client? discord is (its own) mumble and slack combined with free hosting that will Sell Stickers For Revenue, slack itself being just tarted up irc they can both suck dicks
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Nietzschean posted:This discord thing confuses me. It looks like yet another integrated chat client? It's basically a VOIP with IRC functions baked in. I like it because it does all the things separate programs do in one, including integrated pinging, notifications, stickying, API controls, high quality (and high user) voip support, and is endlessly customizable.
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Nietzschean posted:This discord thing confuses me. It looks like yet another integrated chat client? Yeah I have the same issue but it's pretty good. I think Laz set up a discord for his Twitch chanel since they integrated Twitch connectivity but I could be wrong. It's pretty decent but it's not really good for alliances in EVE to use as their replacement for IRC/Mumble because, as we found out, there's some security features they sort of skimp on (eg. anyone can change their name, it's a lot more susceptible to ddos, you don't get as much customization as you could doing Mumble/IRC on your own etc.). For what Kimsemus, Lumbering Troll etc. are doing with it, it's pretty slick and works well.
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Just re-subbed to take a look at how the war is turning out, then realize I moved my carrier to lowsec before I take a break, I guess I will just use subcaps. Also, since people were talking about making isk couple pages earlier, and someone mention lowsec entities do L5 for profit, is it similar to npc null entities (like Syndicate ) as well? or do they usually do ratting? I only remember doing Mordus Legion's mission for their ships were quite lucrative back in the days, but not sure about Syndicate or other areas.
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Unfunny Poster posted:Yeah I have the same issue but it's pretty good. I think Laz set up a discord for his Twitch chanel since they integrated Twitch connectivity but I could be wrong. I'll probably check it out then at some point while trapped on my laptop with nothing useful to do.
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I posted this in the Discord chat, but awoxing in DUST was my most fondest memory. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=82328 That dude (who was some console FPS youtuber) we were loving with got really mad at us for ruining a match. The whole method was beautiful. Basically you would join a district (sov) battle lobby and then awox during the match because you only had so many respawns during the fight. Our goal was to just grind down "our' teams respawns before the other team lost all theirs. If we did it, "our" team lost and the other side won. We'd get a dude into a target groups corp, then when we were waiting for the match to open up the alt would be squad leader, since you could only see the lobby if you were in either corp fighting the match, and we'd have Grief University alts filling out the squad. So out of the 15 or so slots, 5 of them would be us awoxing. Someone on the DUST version of the CSM tried to coin it after themselves, which we didn't really care about and as a result the DUST community freaked out and tried to get her banned for it. Those were the simpler days.  Edit - Another time Goons awoxed in one of those matches https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIoAfecnukA TMC article on all of it - https://www.themittani.com/news/dust-514-eve-culture-shock-and-grief-university?nopaging=1 Mekchu fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Apr 6, 2016 |
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wfwon posted:Just re-subbed to take a look at how the war is turning out, then realize I moved my carrier to lowsec before I take a break, I guess I will just use subcaps. Level 5's are a REALLY great way to make isk as long as you're willing to put the time into the setup. This usually involves a carrier in every system a mission spawns in and pullers to get the right missions. The LP you get is tied to the agent corporation, I usually cash out 25-50m LP at a time since it's so easy to get so much quickly. Just depends though, as you get virtually no actual ISK for them. Complexing by itself in lowsec can be very profitable too, and I mostly do that in an Astero.
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what i've heard from some russian lowsec friends they did lvl 5 in tengus and gilas too.
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You do it in carriers because you want to do every mission in less than 5 mins so you can clear a few billion an hour in profits after you cash in the lp. You can't blitz as easily in sub caps.
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Foehammer007 posted:If more cool goons come back it could be a good time. Blackops lives friend.
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Rhymenoserous posted:Blackops lives friend. C-C-Can I join the Black Ops crew?
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Unfunny Poster posted:C-C-Can I join the Black Ops crew? :skink:
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Rhymenoserous posted:I don't see why not. You wouldn't be the first neutral/red in our fleet this week. Neat. Might hit you up about that. In the Discord chat we were talking about doing NPSI stuff whenever this war ends. I don't know what sort of problems that'd cause for the CFC/Imperium guys but I know for the most part in PL we don't care so long as you're not hitting friendly stuff, eg. a tower or w/e. I'd imagine it'd be the same for you guys.
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Denis posted:what i've heard from some russian lowsec friends they did lvl 5 in tengus and gilas too. You can but this exponentially increases your chance of dying because of the time it takes to clear the missions, and it dramatically slows down your isk/hour. Headshotting with carriers with a proper setup clears over a bil/hour, in a subcap like a tengu, it would probably be more like 100-200m optimistically. A Vargur can still clear them relatively quickly though with the right setup and clear 300m or more, but you're much more vulnerable. To my knowledge most of the "good" l5 hubs are squarely in the space of larger lowsec entities.
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Oh man I miss starting at Malediction butt and probing Empire for idiot haulers on wardec. Roughly what's the Plex cost for an Interceptors 5 guy and a dozen or so ships? Yes I haven't played in a decade and gave "Bobcats" away.
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Bobcats posted:Oh man I miss starting at Malediction butt and probing Empire for idiot haulers on wardec. dont, save yourself
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Bobcats posted:Oh man I miss starting at Malediction butt and probing Empire for idiot haulers on wardec. Injectors start at 500k SP each and go for 630 million ISK (about half a PLEX) each currently. To just get into a Malediction hull from scratch on an Amarr character, it's a little over 1 million SP which is around 1 PLEX, though it might just require 2 PLEX because it goes over a little bit. That's not including the module skills needed though so depending on your fit it'll vary what the total SP needed is. Also keep in mind CCP made it so that after 5million SP your injectors start to give you less SP each. quote:< 5 million total skillpoints = 500,000 skillpoints per injector
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Unfunny Poster posted:Neat. Might hit you up about that. The Miniluv/Code blue shooting rules work well enough for me.
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CommonShore posted:The Miniluv/Code blue shooting rules work well enough for me. dont shoot blues, unless you dont know they're blue 
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:dont shoot blues, unless you dont know they're blue With the added corollary that it's ok to be part of a fleet that kills blues if you don't actually cycle your guns on the blue. And that if the blues start attacking your fleet members you can protect your fleet members.
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the first thing you said falls directly under "dont shoot blues" because, you know, you didn't shoot them and the second one is very much a "discretion advised" thing that i wouldn't tell anyone to defend loving code from fcon or whatever
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:the first thing you said falls directly under "dont shoot blues" because, you know, you didn't shoot them and the second one is very much a "discretion advised" thing that i wouldn't tell anyone to defend loving code from fcon or whatever 
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CommonShore posted:With the added corollary that it's ok to be part of a fleet that kills blues if you don't actually cycle your guns on the blue. And that if the blues start attacking your fleet members you can protect your fleet members. "Oh no I assigned my drones to this neutral and he killed an rear end in a top hat while I was up taking a poo poo, that guy talking in fleet was my cat."
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