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I said come in! posted:The making of documentary confirmed there are even other female stormtroopers besides Captain Phasma. Well there was also a speaking female stormtrooper in the movie itself besides Phasma... And a woman in the control room.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Give examples. Well, the Republic and the First Order being in a technical state of peace is the first time we've had two major galactic powers not at war by default. Rey is the first person we see come into overt force power use without some manner of formal teaching. Finn is the first on-screen defector from the bad guy side. Maz is the first live-action film unaffiliated force user. Rey's repeated desire to go home to Jakku is in stark contrast to Luke and Anakin's desire to leave.
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I said come in! posted:TFA is about Rey and Finn. Yes, and it spends so much time on Han Solo, Leia Organa, Luke Skywalker, and a Death Star because
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Apr 7, 2016 20:21
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homullus posted:Yes, and it spends so much time on Han Solo, Leia Organa, Luke Skywalker, and a Death Star because There is no Death Star in TFA, and a film has more than its main characters in it
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Apr 7, 2016 20:22
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kiimo posted:Did anyone stop for a second to ask why spinning blades would lift you up? Monovsky Particles.
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kiimo posted:Did anyone stop for a second to ask why spinning blades would lift you up? Repulsorlifts, like I said.
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jivjov posted:There is no Death Star in TFA Dude, I am begging you from the bottom of my heart not to go down this path. Please. I like TFA man, I'm like, on your side, but please man, it was a death star.
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Look if you ignore all of the substantive differences it really is just the same movie.
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homullus posted:Yes, and it spends so much time on Han Solo, Leia Organa, Luke Skywalker, and a Death Star because To be fair, the Death Star in this one was pretty rad. As far as Death Stars go, I was onboard for this one.
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"tfa is just like new hope" is such a weird argument, especially if you're a prequel fan since the phantom menace cribbed from new hope several times
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Dexo posted:So this dude is gonna betray everyone right? Oh hell yeah.
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Slugworth posted:Dude, I am begging you from the bottom of my heart not to go down this path. Please. I like TFA man, I'm like, on your side, but please man, it was a death star. It was an imperial-style super weapon with similarities to the Death Stars. But it was explicitly, textually, not a Death Star.
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jivjov posted:It was an imperial-style super weapon with similarities to the Death Stars. But it was explicitly, textually, not a Death Star. drat your eyes
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jivjov posted:Well, the Republic and the First Order being in a technical state of peace is the first time we've had two major galactic powers not at war by default. First, AOTC already had two major powers not at war. Second, these ideas are all pretty paltry because none of them have real impact. How does Rey using superpowers without training "complicate or expand the story of Star Wars"? jivjov posted:There is no Death Star in TFA, and a film has more than its main characters in it Starkiller is Death Star because it fulfils the exact same role and function in the story.
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Apr 7, 2016 20:30
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jivjov posted:It was an imperial-style super weapon with similarities to the Death Stars. But it was explicitly, textually, not a Death Star. If it looks like a Death Star, walks like a Death Star and sounds like a Death Star... it's probably a Death Star.
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I said come in! posted:The making of documentary confirmed there are even other female stormtroopers besides Captain Phasma. One of the stormtroopers that reports to Kylo is a girl! She talks.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:First, AOTC already had two major powers not at war. Aren't the Separatists and the republic having hostile interactions from day 1? And no, Starkiller Base is not a Death Star. Someone explicitly spells that out in dialog for you in the film itself. That's not even EU material. That is pure film text.
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Serf posted:If it looks like a Death Star, walks like a Death Star and sounds like a Death Star... it's probably a Death Star. It actually looks like a planet with a gigantic super weapon built into it.
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I said come in! posted:planet ... gigantic super weapon Death Star (It actually is a really cool design though. Very neat Death Star.)
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Dexo posted:So this dude is gonna betray everyone right? Or he's the leader with many people in complex orbits around him.
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I said come in! posted:The Force Awakens is about two people who had no one, discovering friendship and loyalty for the first time. Everything else is secondary. I can see how human emotion is foreign to some of you because the most you've experienced it is reading about it out of a textbook. lol check this guy out
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jivjov posted:Aren't the Separatists and the republic having hostile interactions from day 1? The movie is about a war breaks out between them. So no. quote:And no, Starkiller Base is not a Death Star. Someone explicitly spells that out in dialog for you in the film itself. That's not even EU material. That is pure film text. You're not really thinking this through: if Starkiller was replaced by Death Star, how would the story change? Well, there would be different sets for scenes, and its destruction would have to be slower than in previous movies. It's Death Star.
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I said come in! posted:It actually looks like a planet with a gigantic super weapon built into it. Exactly. The Death Stars are wholly artificial constructions, capable of firing at one target at a time. The Starkiller Base was built into a planet and could target multiple things. similar to Death Stars? Sure. But not the same thing.
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When you think about it the "Death Star" isn't even a star. It's more like a moon.
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euphronius posted:Millennial diversity tokenism does not make a sequel great! Having diversity across all the new characters (by using actors who were good) is tokenism because... uh... 
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euphronius posted:When you think about it the "Death Star" isn't even a star. It's more like a moon. Laser Moon
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sean10mm posted:Having diversity across all the new characters (by using actors who were good) is tokenism because... uh... I'm making fun of that viewpoint not adopting it.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:You're not really thinking this through: if Starkiller was replaced by Death Star, how would the story change? This doesn't matter. You're bringing up completely pointless questions for no reason at all.
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euphronius posted:I'm making fun of that viewpoint not adopting it. I know, I was just making further fun of it. 
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Is this the right thread to discuss The Rogue One trailer? Because I'm more hyped about that than episode 8
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euphronius posted:When you think about it the "Death Star" isn't even a star. It's more like a moon.
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Dexo posted:So this dude is gonna betray everyone right? or he gets blown up 
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euphronius posted:A black storm trooper who is a main speaking character? The problem is that you are looking at particulars rather than the actual message of the film. Star Wars has always adressed issues of racism and sexism. It's like saying BB8 is new because he's not a cylinder. The novelty here would be to say all the Stromtroopers are human, and we must unite with them in shared struggle. But TFA pays lip service to this concept, and we're left with a repeat of the prequels' battle droids. TFA is fundamentally a synthesis of the previous two trilogies. The lessons of the prequels haunt the film: the Jedi were wrong, the Republic is bad, Vader is the true incarnation of God, etc. But nothing is produced through this synthesis. The novelty would be to say that Kylo is the (flawed) hero taking up Vader's cause - but the film barely touches this concept either. It places all emphasis on Kylo's human flaws, repeating Anakin's characterization from the prequels.
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The Death Star is a space station. It can't be a moon because it's not orbiting anything. Is it a satellite or does it have to orbit something? Probably not cause we have satellites that don't orbit anything.
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MonsieurChoc posted:Monovsky Particles. Victory Gundam had its moments. Star Wars could do with a Motorrad fleet, if you ask me.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:The movie is about a war breaks out between them. So no. jivjov posted:Exactly. The Death Stars are wholly artificial constructions, capable of firing at one target at a time. The Starkiller Base was built into a planet and could target multiple things. similar to Death Stars? Sure. But not the same thing. In the end, the Empire's most powerful weapon was a cyclical argument started between an rear end in a top hat and a pedant TheKingofSprings fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Apr 7, 2016 |
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TheKingofSprings posted:In the end, the Empire's most powerful weapon was a cyclical argument started between an rear end in a top hat and a pedant Hey now... They're both pedants.
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korusan posted:or he gets blown up Holy poo poo, is this Biggs? That could be the best thing that ever bested.
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Since eveyone is talking about Death Stars, what would happen to Star Killer when it ran out of sun juice? Can you drive it to another sun to fuel up? Can you drive a planet? Is it just dead after they run out of sun juice after charging twice?
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Technically the recoil from the blast should have ejected the base from the Galaxy at near light speed.
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