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achillesforever6 posted:That and if they somehow kill the Flash they will have the whole world on their asses. Half of BSS couldn't understand why it'd be a problem to call the black Spider-Man "Spider-Boy" and they're more progressive than most about minority representation in comics, so that's not surprising at all.
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Tezcatlipoca posted:I'd have liked it more if I could understand half of what he was saying. Yeah, was never an issue for me 
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Apr 8, 2016 05:22
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achillesforever6 posted:That and if they somehow kill the Flash they will have the whole world on their asses. You know, that's actually an interesting idea, it's a shame that the least appropriate people were the ones making it. I wouldn't trust DC Comics to make anything even remotely socially relevant. If you want an example: look at how they've used Static in the last 15 years.
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Apr 8, 2016 05:27
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The MSJ posted:Don't forget this other Fox comic book sequel. This movie was so fun, and this character/actor's performance so good, that I give NO drat how they explain this. NONE. Like. NONE. Pull a Crank. I don't care. First scene of the movie. Just sitting there drinking. Looks at camera, "I got better". And that's it. ON TO THE SHOW. Never touches on it again.
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Apr 8, 2016 05:39
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Pirate Jet posted:The Dark Knight is a loving incredible movie that I can't talk about because I saw it when I was 16 and immediately became one of *those* people about it and ruined it for all my friends. I rewatch it every year or so and can still defend my position in much less annoying terms, now. I actually think TDKR is my favorite of the Nolan trilogy.
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Apr 8, 2016 05:40
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achillesforever6 posted:Too bad DC had to make him a troubled black youth who can run really fast (you'd think they would see the implications of this) He's not troubled any more, and he doesn't run fast he just likes building fast cars.
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Apr 8, 2016 05:42
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TDKR made almost no sense at all, but all the performances were great. Catwoman, Alfred, Bane were great. It fell apart when "people were literally crawling into the sewers to find jobs" lol
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Apr 8, 2016 05:50
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I also enjoy the kind-hearted, subtle dadhumour of the Nolan films. It characterises Bruce's relationships and helps include references to other Batman works, like the bomb in TDKR.
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Apr 8, 2016 06:02
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That stupid poo poo when all the cops crawled out of the sewers with no ill effects and were able to fight Bane's army. gently caress TDKR.
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Apr 8, 2016 06:07
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TDKR is like going to the opera
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I didn't like the cops scene at all first and thought it ruined the movie but I felt a lot better about it when I read it as Batman giving the cops a chance to redeem themselves. I kinda think that's what the whole of TDKR's ending is about, and why I'm okay with Batman getting a statue when he was a tyrannical fascist manchild.
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The MSJ posted:X-Men posters Phew, those Four Horsemen posters from a while back had me worried that Fox was breaking with the tradition of awful promotional material for their X-Men stuff but I see they are back on form. Rhyno posted:That stupid poo poo when all the cops crawled out of the sewers with no ill effects and were able to fight Bane's army. gently caress TDKR. I liked TDKR overall, but that whole big street brawl could have been, er, grittier. Once the focus is on Batman and Bane the surrounding battle lost me completely. I know they couldn't have done the opening of Gangs of New York but at least hint at some of the brutality. Matthew Modine's death is just the worst.
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Pirate Jet posted:I also see that it seems to be general consensus that TDKR sucks but I haven't heard any good arguments as to why.
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Grendels Dad posted:
It also features Batman at his least impressive and dumbest. After getting his rear end beat by Bane, then rebuilding himself from the ground up, crossing the world to reclaim his city, he says the worst retort i've ever heard ("No. I've come to stop you.") and tries to punch Bane again. The whole thing just looked ridiculous. Like they tried to make a scene that needed 300 people work with 45 people or something.
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Terrible Horse posted:It also features Batman at his least impressive and dumbest. After getting his rear end beat by Bane, then rebuilding himself from the ground up, crossing the world to reclaim his city, he says the worst retort i've ever heard ("No. I've come to stop you.") and tries to punch Bane again. I liked the Batman v Bane fight itself, actually. They had their cool fight in the sewers, with lots of cool lines and good choreography and stuff; I took their street fight to mean that they were both exposed for the costumed clowns they are and that Batman could just handle it better than Bane because he managed to move on.
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I really hated TDKR, and this scene: kinda captures why for me. Sure, the Batman suit is weighing on Wayne's conscience or whatever, but more than anything I can't help but look at this guy and think Patrick Bateman. He just looks goofy, and after being given a leg upgrade and deciding to kick a hole in the wall because it's badass, he basically decides to go fight Bane because... uh, gently caress Bane and I'm awesome. Like, ok, Batman is forced to develop as a character after being outclassed by Bane. But why is he outclassed by Bane? Because he's a complete idiot.
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Dark Knight Rises is a goofy-rear end picture that goes all-out with the Inception premise - that people all occupy a shared dream that functions according to movie-logic. People ask how Batman got back from Afghanistan or whatever, and the answer is that shots of two different places were edited together in order to create the illusion of effortless travel.
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Grendels Dad posted:I liked TDKR overall, but that whole big street brawl could have been, er, grittier. Once the focus is on Batman and Bane the surrounding battle lost me completely. I know they couldn't have done the opening of Gangs of New York but at least hint at some of the brutality. Matthew Modine's death is just the worst. God that street brawl... mercs armed with rifles, sitting in entrenched positions, abandon their position to beat on the (barely armed) cops with their fists rather than gunning them down.  It's just so dumb and it sticks out like a sore thumb every time I watch that movie. Batham fucked around with this message at 11:53 on Apr 8, 2016 |
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Apr 8, 2016 11:45
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I had a thought about Civil War. The current US president in the MCU (or as of Iron Man 3) was elected on a single platform of "[he] will defend [the US] at all costs". A pretty shockingly hawkish/right-wing stance by real-life standards. The comic Cap was surprisingly left-wing, so perhaps this movie will have him as a rival to the neo-conservative agenda of Tony Stark and the government. Maybe that will be explored... hopefully?
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Apr 8, 2016 11:46
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Batham posted:God that street brawl... mercs armed with rifles, sitting in entrenched positions, abandon their position to beat on the (barely armed) cops with their fists rather than gunning them down. Bane: So, you came back to die with your city. Batman: No. I came back to stop you. [begin fighting]
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Apr 8, 2016 11:47
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My favourite part of Rises is that Aidan Gillen became a meme.
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Batham posted:God that street brawl... mercs armed with rifles, sitting in entrenched positions, abandon their position to beat on the (barely armed) cops with their fists rather than gunning them down. They somehow did that thing from Big Trouble in Little China where the two gangs shoot at each other and there are some token casualties on both sides and then all guns magically vanish and they charge and butcher each other with swords and meat cleavers and bo staffs. Except that there are no swords and meat cleavers and bo staffs, and the guns are still there, and they all shoot them while they charge. And they do a really poor job butchering each other because they go at it all through Bane v Batman, and when Talia leaves them to detonate the nuke they are still at it with no visible casualties except for Matthew Modine.
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It's about as dumb as a bunch of school bus drivers not caring when a new bus emerges from a smoking bankfront to join their queue.
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Gyges posted:Kurt, you're breaking my heart with that haircut. You're better than that.
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Electromax posted:It's about as dumb as a bunch of school bus drivers not caring when School bus drivers don't care about things. It's one of those hellish jobs that robs you of the ability to experience human emotions like 'caring' or 'joy' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dncx6O5J4U
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wyoming posted:My favourite part of Rises is that Aidan Gillen became a meme. I will never get tired of Baneposting. That meme just works for me every time.
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Full Battle Rattle posted:TDKR is like going to the opera Your parents get shot at the inexplicably filthy back alley behind the theater?
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Electromax posted:It's about as dumb as a bunch of school bus drivers not caring when a new bus emerges from a smoking bankfront to join their queue. That's actually the most realistic thing in the whole trilogy.
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Bob Quixote posted:Your parents get shot at the inexplicably filthy back alley behind the theater? I have never been to a theater where you can leave directly into a filthy alley, consequently my parents are fine
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Yaws posted:I liked TDKR but I thought the politics in it were muddled a bit and I couldn't get a bead on what Nolan was going for. "Be careful in who you trust in as a leader, no matter what their stated cause."
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Apr 8, 2016 14:21
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I thought each individual scene of TDKR was good, but when you combine the scenes together to form some sort of coherent narrative, the whole thing falls apart. I had this weird feeling that Nolan actually didn't know anything about Batman, and my fears were confirmed with the Robin"reveal" at the very end. That was so loving lame. Also the Nolan trilogy was forever ruined once I noticed that Batman never closes his mouth. He pretty obviously doesn't have airholes in his nose for some reason.
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Nolan read every "important" Batman book, obviously, as all of the trilogy contain various aspects from those, put together. For instance, DKR is a mix of Knightfall, No Man's Land, adds in some of the Bane/League connection from other books, etc. The combination of those things creates a different type of outcome at the end, yes, but you can clearly see they're created by someone that read and understood the material. Nolan basically read the material and, unlike many people who read it and said, "this guy is awesome," he said, "this guy sucks and needs to grow up" and made his movies about that. People that read it as the former don't understand their "awesome" character being displayed as an ineffectual manchild, and hate the movie that stresses this the most.
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:I thought each individual scene of TDKR was good, but when you combine the scenes together to form some sort of coherent narrative, the whole thing falls apart. I had this weird feeling that Nolan actually didn't know anything about Batman, and my fears were confirmed with the Robin"reveal" at the very end. That was so loving lame. It was less of a "reveal" and more of a "  :iamafag:"
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Didn't Nolan have Batman signs/stuff in the lead character's apartment way back in Following? The dude knows what Batman is.
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Pirate Jet posted:The Dark Knight is a loving incredible movie that I can't talk about because I saw it when I was 16 and immediately became one of *those* people about it and ruined it for all my friends. I rewatch it every year or so and can still defend my position in much less annoying terms, now. Way too long, too many subplots, subpar writing. Everything involving Joseph Gordon Levitt, Marion Cotillard, or Matthew Modine is laughably bad.
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I also never really liked the fight choreography. The Arkham games really nailed it, so seeing Batman move slow and just do basic punches and kicks was kind of a letdown.
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Nolan is not really a great action director, especially close combat, something Sneider does very well. Even though it's a trailer compare this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhn8VVtrfDk&t=113s with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX_iASz1Si8&t=17s It's night and day. Still a shitter movie though.
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Jason Momoa talks about the BvS backlash and Aquamanquote:"I like fighting. So, I'm looking forward to being a superhero and just fighting," he teases. "There's some good battles." He's such a great guy.
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"Big" and "beautiful"? Amber Heard as his wife? Jason Momoa is the Donald Trump of superheroes. 
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That reminds me. The funniest Man of Steel video I remember was someone playing the sound of people screaming in pain over the aftermath of the Metropolis battle. It was like the offspring of Loose Change, the 9/11 truther movie, and Silent Scream, the anti-abortion video where a fetus screams in pain as it is being cut apart. It’s as if the video was saying that the people who hate Superman for ‘destroying’ Metropolis are either conspiracy nutjobs or extremist conservatives.
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