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That "Administration of the Arabs" only lasted 4 months. That census was taken in a really small window. Cool find.
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Friendly Humour posted:Well for lack of a better word then? I see /pol/ as something of a litmus paper for the whole extreme right movement that's been growing in the last decade around the whole conspiracy theorist identity, in that there isn't really any coherent ideology, but just a mess of shouting and anger about something vaguely against what they perceive as the ruling ideology (wrongly so, but anyway). /pol/ is literally the guys that Republican pollster was talking about Trump supporters are made up of losers who masturbate to anime.
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my dad posted:
Ah yes, the 13 division, the ones that have been at odds with Al-Nusra...yeah great priority. God these fuckers lmust love Isis at this point.
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Apr 10, 2016 02:20
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Less a love of ISIS and more a contempt of brown.
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Cugel the Clever posted:B52s are loaded with smart bombs these days, and have been in frequent operation over the area already. No, they've been using B-1Bs. B-52s will be new to this fight.
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Ikasuhito posted:Some neat drones footage from today's Aleppo offensive. Pro click for sure. The bulk of it is a continuous drone shot as APCs race across a field, nearly run into each other, slam into a wall and then jihadists pour out. It's like watching a command and conquer: generals battle. Also that A-10 video linked above is worth a watch. *brrrrrt*
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Jaramin posted:Huge proposed Armenia. Ie: "Perform ethnic cleansing here" As discussed, ethnicities get to preform at least one revenge cleansing to see if they can top the score of the last one.
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Apr 10, 2016 04:30
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Ikasuhito posted:Some neat drones footage from today's Aleppo offensive. I remember seeing some drone footage of an offensive like this where you could actually see the defenders running around and driving off in their vehicles. I seem to have lost the link, anyone remember something like this?
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Apr 10, 2016 05:01
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 Caro! Oh hey it's the Australian reporter WITH THE CHILD THAT WAS KIDNAPPED AT GUNPOINT JUST MOMENTS BEFORE also it turns out the tv channel paid the 'recovery agency'/kidnappers $100k for the operation, then went to hide at the Australian Embassy which handed them to the police when they came knocking. They're all hosed. http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/apr/10/60-minutes-crew-detained-in-lebanon-to-find-out-fate-soon-says-julie-bishop
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I haven't been able to contact my Kurdish friend for about six weeks. He's a teacher in southeastern Turkey and at this point I'm kind of worried. Last time I spoke with him he had mentioned a police enforced curfew.
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usb teledildonics posted:I haven't been able to contact my Kurdish friend for about six weeks. He's a teacher in southeastern Turkey and at this point I'm kind of worried. Last time I spoke with him he had mentioned a police enforced curfew. Turkey routinely blocks Facebook and Twitter, but presumably you know that. Kurds in the southeast are being cracked down on right now, and there is a heavy police presence throughout the region. Do know what town your friend is in?
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hypnorotic posted:I remember seeing some drone footage of an offensive like this where you could actually see the defenders running around and driving off in their vehicles. I seem to have lost the link, anyone remember something like this? Was it this one? Starts at 8:05 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=185_1459601530
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usb teledildonics posted:I haven't been able to contact my Kurdish friend for about six weeks. He's a teacher in southeastern Turkey and at this point I'm kind of worried. Last time I spoke with him he had mentioned a police enforced curfew. He's almost certainly ok unless he aimed an AK at an APC. Does he hang around with PKK types?
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In all fairness regarding this story, Lebanese family law is truly hosed up in the sense that if it is true that the father said the children won't be returning to Australia then there's arguably no legal way for the mother to contest it. Most or all all of our western governments are working under the assumption that parental cross-border abduction is a form of kidnapping, and it's forbidden under the Hague convention. As far as I know, child recovery agents usually operate within some form of bilateral cooperation agreement but there are l lot of legal gray areas so some agencies just goes rogue, it would hardly be the first time. Judging from the little I know about how it works I'd assume that the agency had convinced everyone involved that they're doing it in agreement with international law or however they ususally justify rogue operations legally. So again, if it's true that the father intended to keep the children in Lebanon, which judging by his comments it seems to be, then I'm truly sorry that the kidnapping was botched because they won't see Australia or their maternal family again until they're 18 at best.
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Svartvit posted:In all fairness regarding this story, Lebanese family law is truly hosed up in the sense that if it is true that the father said the children won't be returning to Australia then there's arguably no legal way for the mother to contest it. Most or all all of our western governments are working under the assumption that parental cross-border abduction is a form of kidnapping, and it's forbidden under the Hague convention. As far as I know, child recovery agents usually operate within some form of bilateral cooperation agreement but there are l lot of legal gray areas so some agencies just goes rogue, it would hardly be the first time. Judging from the little I know about how it works I'd assume that the agency had convinced everyone involved that they're doing it in agreement with international law or however they ususally justify rogue operations legally. So again, if it's true that the father intended to keep the children in Lebanon, which judging by his comments it seems to be, then I'm truly sorry that the kidnapping was botched because they won't see Australia or their maternal family again until they're 18 at best. They physically assaulted the people with the kids. Yes, the father is in the wrong taking the kids. Does NOT justify physical violence and rogue operations to get them back.
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Apr 10, 2016 12:56
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CommieGIR posted:They physically assaulted the people with the kids. If somebody was holding my kidnapped children I would be completely justified in cracking them on the head if they resisted my attempts to take them back. Which isn't to say that I believe her children were actually kidnapped or that her actions were reasonable even if they were, just that your logic is dumb as poo poo.
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Apr 10, 2016 13:14
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BEAR GRYLLZ posted:If somebody was holding my kidnapped children I would be completely justified in cracking them on the head if they resisted my attempts to take them back. Effectively, though, it wasn't kidnapping as you said. What she did would be kidnapping. It's a lovely situation but she isn't making it any better. And what you'd claim to do would be considered kidnapping and assault. It's one thing to call my logic dumb but then use the exact same logic to justify something you already acknowledged would be improper.
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Apr 10, 2016 13:37
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BEAR GRYLLZ posted:If somebody was holding my kidnapped children I would be completely justified in cracking them on the head if they resisted my attempts to take them back. By this logic the Lebanese father would be completely justified in gunning down this fake Australian documentary crew or whatever they were when they moved in to kidnap his child.
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The point was that saying "Even if he kidnapped these children violence wasn't justified!" is completely idiotic logic. It's explicitly clear in my post that I'm not sure if they were actually kidnapped and, just to state it clearly, this entire situation is a clusterfuck and the mother's actions only made things worse. And for gently caress's sake no if the father actually kidnapped the children he would not be justified shooting the mother or the film crew for trying to take them back what the gently caress is wrong with you? How is that not obvious?
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sparatuvs posted:He's almost certainly ok unless he aimed an AK at an APC. Does he hang around with PKK types? Move along citizen. There is no violence here and definitely no civilian casualties. 
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CommieGIR posted:They physically assaulted the people with the kids. In domestic cases we justify violence in order to return victims of kidnapping. In international cases we also justify it. It just so happens that the legal infrastructure isn't present in this particular case (and many other cases). I don't like to see morals as based on simply adhering to local law so doesn't moral consistency demand that we justify even the illegal recovery attempt?
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BEAR GRYLLZ posted:And for gently caress's sake no if the father actually kidnapped the children he would not be justified shooting the mother or the film crew for trying to take them back what the gently caress is wrong with you? How is that not obvious? It's as much his child as it is hers. She resorted to violence to kidnap a child, he would be more than justified in acting with full force to protect his child being taken away at gun point by a bunch of strangers. What's wrong with you? You seem to be justifying violence from one side but not the other. Because he's a filthy Arab and she's white, her rights to the child trumps his?
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Svartvit posted:In domestic cases we justify violence in order to return victims of kidnapping. In international cases we also justify it. "We" don't justify anything. Speak for yourself, lunatic. I hope this fake camera crew has the book thrown at them in Lebanon.
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lynch_69 posted:"We" don't justify anything. Speak for yourself, lunatic. I hope this fake camera crew has the book thrown at them in Lebanon. When I say "we" I mean as in our society. If you think it's wrong to retrieve victims of kidnappings then don't take it to heart.
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What will win this debate?! The racism argument or the women's rights argument?! Oh wait, that's right I remember. We all lose. Let's just agree that the dude was crazy for taking the kid like that and she was crazier to stage that 'rescue'.
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Svartvit posted:In domestic cases we justify violence in order to return victims of kidnapping. In international cases we also justify it. It just so happens that the legal infrastructure isn't present in this particular case (and many other cases). I don't like to see morals as based on simply adhering to local law so doesn't moral consistency demand that we justify even the illegal recovery attempt? Again, it depends on if it was a kidnapping which depends on who has custody of the children in which country. Australian law does not trump Lebanese law.
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Anosmoman posted:Again, it depends on if it was a kidnapping which depends on who has custody of the children in which country. Australian law does not trump Lebanese law.
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lynch_69 posted:It's as much his child as it is hers. She resorted to violence to kidnap a child, he would be more than justified in acting with full force to protect his child being taken away at gun point by a bunch of strangers. What's wrong with you? You seem to be justifying violence from one side but not the other. Because he's a filthy Arab and she's white, her rights to the child trumps his? this awful post is proof that god isn't real
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lynch_69 posted:It's as much his child as it is hers. She resorted to violence to kidnap a child, he would be more than justified in acting with full force to protect his child being taken away at gun point by a bunch of strangers. What's wrong with you? You seem to be justifying violence from one side but not the other. Because he's a filthy Arab and she's white, her rights to the child trumps his? If they were as much his as hers why didn't he make arrangements for them to stay jointly with him in Lebanon and her in Australia? Apparently the mother was reasonable and agreed to let them visit him in Lebanon, but he chose to be unreasonable and detain them there. I mean that's a really hosed up thing for him to do and you should be ashamed for showing such support of his actions lynch_69, and for accusing me of being racist with no reason for doing so. SMDH
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By the way, here's a good summary of the problems of Lebanese family law and custody issues from an American perspective:quote:- There are extreme difficulties in returning a child to the United States from Lebanon when retained by a Lebanese parent. http://www.international-divorce.com/ca-lebanon.htm
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I can't find it now, but I remember reading a story that involved Eric Haney (one of the earliest members of Delta) and one of his former unit members recovering a kid who had been taken back into Iran by his father without the consent of the divorced mother. They pulled it off without guns or any violence. Anyone else familiar with this story? Think it took place in the late 80s or early 90s.
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BEAR GRYLLZ posted:If they were as much his as hers why didn't he make arrangements for them to stay jointly with him in Lebanon and her in Australia? Apparently the mother was reasonable and agreed to let them visit him in Lebanon, but he chose to be unreasonable and detain them there. Yes, surely the best way for the mother to deal with this situation is to send in armed unit after this kid who are more than happy to resort to violence. You made it abundantly clear that you unapologetically support such violence, I'm wondering why. Also what the father did is wrong and troubling, and there should be a better cooperation between the Australian and Lebanese government to resolve such matters other than having private citizens hire armed kidnap squads for cross border operations. Apparently I'm the crazy one for seeing a problem with this.
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Aren't bribes usually the go to for things like this? I vaguely remember something like this happening where they just bribed everyone and that was that.suboptimal posted:I can't find it now, but I remember reading a story that involved Eric Haney (one of the earliest members of Delta) and one of his former unit members recovering a kid who had been taken back into Iran by his father without the consent of the divorced mother. They pulled it off without guns or any violence. Anyone else familiar with this story? Think it took place in the late 80s or early 90s. Maybe this is the event I'm thinking of. Red Mundus fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Apr 10, 2016 |
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lynch_69 posted:Also what the father did is wrong and troubling, and there should be a better cooperation between the Australian and Lebanese government to resolve such matters other than having private citizens hire armed kidnap squads for cross border operations. Apparently I'm the crazy one for seeing a problem with this. BEAR GRYLLZ posted:Which isn't to say that I believe her children were actually kidnapped or that her actions were reasonable even if they were Cool, we've reached agreement then. And I didn't even have to accuse you of being racist. 
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Cocoa Ninja posted:Pro click for sure. The bulk of it is a continuous drone shot as APCs race across a field, nearly run into each other, slam into a wall and then jihadists pour out. It's like watching a command and conquer: generals battle. I'm still loving amazed that people think we can train these shitlords to be competent at well, anything. They simply rush at things as fast as possible, and spray bullets being as much a risk to their friends around them as the enemy. Their great at terrorizing the locals, but they can't fight for poo poo. And anytime they manage to pull anything off it's usually due to Russian or US backing which does all the heavy lifting. For a region that's been at war non stop since the history of man you'd think they'd be better at it. Yet their combat tactics resemble a bunch of meth'd up ICP types that inbred with the WBC. And we think we can teach them to fight...
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Ikasuhito posted:Was it this one? The loving tank attack around 9:20 is some poo poo. It's like something taken from Arma3 or Battlefield 4 
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suboptimal posted:I can't find it now, but I remember reading a story that involved Eric Haney (one of the earliest members of Delta) and one of his former unit members recovering a kid who had been taken back into Iran by his father without the consent of the divorced mother. They pulled it off without guns or any violence. Anyone else familiar with this story? Think it took place in the late 80s or early 90s. Are you thinking of Not Without My Daughter? Ir was a book by Betty Mamood later turned into a movie by Sally Field.
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http://www.kurdistan24.net/en/news/5d5a4a1e-7fb7-4119-b0c8-d8a2f74b6a86/PHOTOS--Peshmerga-help-rescue-people-from-ISquote:Kurdish Peshmerga forces helped rescue Arab people in Makhmour front line, southwest of Erbil, who escaped from the Islamic State (IS) in Mosul. About 200 people were rescued, including men, women and children, who walked for six kilometers (almost four miles), attempting to find a way to escape the extremist group.
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MysteriousStranger posted:I'm still loving amazed that people think we can train these shitlords to be competent at well, anything. They simply rush at things as fast as possible, and spray bullets being as much a risk to their friends around them as the enemy. Their great at terrorizing the locals, but they can't fight for poo poo. And anytime they manage to pull anything off it's usually due to Russian or US backing which does all the heavy lifting. For a region that's been at war non stop since the history of man you'd think they'd be better at it. Yet their combat tactics resemble a bunch of meth'd up ICP types that inbred with the WBC. lol holy poo poo. They're people not dogs. There is nothing intrinsic to "The Arab" that makes any of this so you big racist dummy. BlackJosh fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Apr 10, 2016 |
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