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For real though Quantum Break is far better than I was ever expecting. The TV show episodes inside the game provide a great point for you to take a break after watching one and pick up still remembering what happened last time you played. The game itself also flows really well as a whole. Highly recommend picking it up.
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Motto posted:Videogames are bad at genres no where as bad as music
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Motto posted:Human beings are bad at genre classifications FTFY
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Apr 11, 2016 21:36
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Apr 11, 2016 21:36
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Jay Rust posted:"with RPG elements" applies to every game now too See also: crafting
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Apr 11, 2016 21:37
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Lurdiak posted:I'm really opposed to the term "character action" because not only does it not mean anything when taken at face value, it's also a bullshit category that seems to only include games people like. If there's a game that sucks it "lacks the depth" to be real character action. It's so stupid. it's just shorthand for games where you run around as a character doing lots of combat challenges that encourage you to take as little damage as possible and to fight with flourish and fancy acrobatics it doesn't make sense if you dissect it and base the meaning on "character" "action" but it works as a thing that people see and recognize as "oh like bayonetta/god of war/devil may cry okay"
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Apr 11, 2016 21:38
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FanaticalMilk posted:I never really got this. What's so bad about sitting in your chair and playing games on a monitor? My desk chair is pretty old now and I'd much rather chill on the couch where I got more room to lounge. Unless it's a game where keyboard and mouse is a must or the fiancee is playing a console game, I'll play it on the couch instead.
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it's like getting mad at the genre of roleplaying games since literally every game is a game where you play a role
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FirstAidKite posted:it's just shorthand for games where you run around as a character doing lots of combat challenges that encourage you to take as little damage as possible and to fight with flourish and fancy acrobatics I don't care if I'm being the guy Lurdiak is complaining about, but gow isn't a character action game.
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FirstAidKite posted:it's like getting mad at the genre of roleplaying games since literally every game is a game where you play a role This is a weird one though, since RPGs used to actually be all about playing roles, and as time went on the roleplaying got edged out by the stat management and progression, but the name stayed the same. So now stats and progression means roleplaying.  Should just call then nerd games for nerds.
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FirstAidKite posted:it's just shorthand for games where you run around as a character doing lots of combat challenges that encourage you to take as little damage as possible and to fight with flourish and fancy acrobatics Hack n slash and Beat me up also work, predate character action game, are more descriptive and don't bs more like a game genre.
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axleblaze posted:Hack n slash and Beat me up also work, predate character action game, are more descriptive and don't bs more like a game genre. yes the terms are not mutually exclusive and there are plenty of times where a game can be described as belonging to multiple different genres
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axleblaze posted:Hack n slash and Beat me up also work, predate character action game, are more descriptive and don't bs more like a game genre. Beat 'em up makes me think of games like Streets of Rage or Final Fight.
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DeckardPain posted:For real though Quantum Break is far better than I was ever expecting. wish you'd posted this last friday so I didn't suffer through the weekend trying to kill the ds3 hysteria with, ugh, ds2.
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I guess in general I just don't like the term "character action game" because it sounds like the result of years of Internet arguing about what to call the genre until people unhappily finally settled on a clunky sterile phrase that isn't even concise to shut every one up. It's not that it doesn't describe a specific genre as much as it just sounds worse than pretty much any other term you could use to describe it.
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Motto posted:Kamiyalike
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Let's start using this term I just made up, "neo-rogue"
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Steve2911 posted:This is a weird one though, since RPGs used to actually be all about playing roles, and as time went on the roleplaying got edged out by the stat management and progression, but the name stayed the same. So now stats and progression means roleplaying.
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Jay Rust posted:Let's start using this term I just made up, "neo-rogue" Actually I think you'll find it's "neo-rouge"
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I guess that makes thematic sense Also, whoever coined "neo-noir", you've combined a Greek word with a French word, you weirdo
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I'm going to categorize "video games" as "good"
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I like that despite having completely different controls Godhand belongs in the character action genre, whereas X Blades controls like a character action game but belongs in the garbage can
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i'm glad x-blades exists because it has a funny steam page description
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Broseph Brostar posted:I prefer Doomkiller 
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X-Blades posted:In X-Blades, the player takes on the role of the enchanting heroine Ayumi, who survives a breathtaking dance of blades through the Hordes of Darkness. The long-haired beautiful anime, with her pistol blades and mind-blowing leaps, whirls and swirls from one fantastic level to the next.
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Broseph Brostar posted:I don't care if I'm being the guy Lurdiak is complaining about, but gow isn't a character action game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jypARnYyBUI&t=45s
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Broseph Brostar posted:I don't care if I'm being the guy Lurdiak is complaining about, but gow isn't a character action game. It totally is. It's simpler than DMC and more QTE heavy but if you're gonna saying a DMC type of game is it's own genre, pretty muc all of it's defining features are in GoW.
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Some people still confuse Fighting Games and Beat-Em-Ups and that one really gets my goat. They are distinct genres!!!
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axleblaze posted:It totally is. It's simpler than DMC and more QTE heavy but if you're gonna saying a DMC type of game is it's own genre, pretty muc all of it's defining features are in GoW. It's a Devil May CRygar
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40 mins until complete internet meltdown
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It feels like election night, or oscars night, I'm v excited
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Lurdiak posted:Some people still confuse Fighting Games and Beat-Em-Ups and that one really gets my goat. They are distinct genres!!! That's a weird one to mix up since just about everyone considers fighting games the "two people (usually) facing each other with life bars (usually) fighting 2 out of 3 rounds (usually)" genre and beat em ups are very much the Streets of Rage-types that sort of split into musou and third person action games. They're really hard to mix up since fighting games are 99.9% about player vs. player gameplay and beat em ups are 99.9% not.
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Genre arguments are pretty much the dumbest thing because they confuse only people on the internet, meanwhile any 10 year old can tell the difference between a beat 'em up and a fighter or w/e.
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axleblaze posted:It totally is. It's simpler than DMC and more QTE heavy but if you're gonna saying a DMC type of game is it's own genre, pretty muc all of it's defining features are in GoW. I know it's a lovely distinction, but the simplicity is what prevents it from being a character action game. The easiest way to tell the difference is to look at how you're supposed to deal with multiple enemies. If the best answer is using your attacks to wipe them out all at once then it's a hack and slash action game, whereas if you have to dodge attacks from multiple enemies and defeat them one by one then it's a character action game.
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Madworld is a thpslike murder sim
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Broseph Brostar posted:I know it's a lovely distinction, but the simplicity is what prevents it from being a character action game. Both of the things you described describe moments in both GoW games and DMC games so  Also if that is the defining features, then Souls games are character action game.
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exquisite tea posted:Genre arguments are pretty much the dumbest thing because they confuse only people on the internet, meanwhile any 10 year old can tell the difference between a beat 'em up and a fighter or w/e. Academia depends on clear definitions
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